Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[wolfdog51]

REEEEEEEEEEEE

It may be fantasy, but in Star Wars you can't fly or breathe in space!!!!!



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Jedi can't hold their breath!

The ships have airlocks! The very conception of Vader's breathing mask was out of a need to travel from ship to ship during boardings.

I can buy a Jedi's body disappearing when they die. I can accept moving **** with your mind and jumping/flipping all over the place like a god damn frog. ****, I can even dig Kylo stopping laser bolts mid blast. But Super Leia I can't abide by, I just can't. Everyone in that room with her exploded and were met with a grisly demise. Poor Ackbar's head is probably floating in space. But Leia is suddenly invincible, can breathe/hold her breath in space? No, NO!

I'm not even taking into account how goofy it looked. She looked like that early 2000s CGI, you know, like Neo flying around or Legolas running up the elephant or ****ing Superman catching that plane. We're talking about a bloated, elderly Carrie Fisher that's been strung up and launched through space. The fact that she's dead makes this even worse! It's like, if James Cameron made Titanic 2 and had old Rose diving down to the wreckage to go retrieve the diamond. It's just not right.

They've gone too far, this and Luke's force hologram projection or that **** where Rey and Kylo can visit with each other outside the room (****ing Kylo getting ocean water on him, hnnnnng). If force users are capable of such feats, how come the Jedi and Sith are virtually extinct? Why didn't the Emperor just force project a hologram of himself on the 2nd Death Star while he was chilling on Coruscant taking a dump? How did Vader succumb to his wounds, why does he need a breathing system to live?! If Leia can live after blowing up, why does Luke have a heart attack from thinking too hard on a rock??


HNNNNG Make it stop, make it stop.

I always wondered how Han or anybody could survive being frozen in carbonite. You still need to breath to survive, but then it is science fiction. If the first Death Star would have blown up Yavin instead of going around it i'm pretty sure the rebel base would have been destroyed too. Whatever, I still like the movies.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The problem is that when the Jedi were flying around with their lightsabers in heroic fashion they weren't really following what their path was supposed to be... case in point,

Not necessarily. They have weapons and train to fight....unlike monks who don't train or use weapons of any kind.

which was a stronger Yoda: flipping AOTC fighting Dooku version or ESB filled with wise counsel who never even touched a lightsaber? The fact that Luke faced the entire First Order--- schooled Kylo one last time-- and WAS the spark to start a proper rebellion was perfect in my mind... loved the swerve of the projection (set up earlier with Kylo saying to Rey in their first link "you couldn't do this-- the effort would kill you"... Luke's sacrifice).

I agree that at some point after many years of training or meditation, or in Luke's case, getting drunk on slug milk, they shouldn't use the lightsaber as much, but l think Luke could have been there in person and still schooled a Padawan like Kylo with no training, without the use of a lightsaber or crappy Matrix moves. But whatever, some people seem to like it.

 

[jye4ever]

Where’s Khev something tells me he hated it and RO will be his last SW hurrah.

Understandable if so.

Actually if you end it with accepting TFA as your final SW movie Luke is still not ruined at all if anything he’s quite mysterious and sexy.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Meditating on a rock. Khev will use force projection to post one last time, then disappear forever.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Where’s Khev something tells me he hated it and RO will be his last SW hurrah.

Understandable if so.

Actually if you end it with accepting TFA as your final SW movie Luke is still not ruined at all if anything he’s quite mysterious and sexy.

Khev better have hated it.

 

[Sachiel]

This movie is a work of art.

 

[batfan08]

I think my biggest problem with The Last Jedi is Laura Dern’s Holdo. She’s supposed to be this great big rebel badass from her time during the war, and she already has a plan to go down with her ship, but, she’d already shown how aggressive she could be with the whole “Blaster to Poe’s Mutiny” thing, so, why the **** did she wait so long? Why did 90% of the Rebel Transports have to be destroyed for her to make up her mind? Hell, why did the ship even have to know the Rebel Transports were on their way out for her to make that decision.

Wouldn’t it just be better than leading them on a wild goose chase and dying anyway to, instead, take advantage of those last fuel reserves to ensure that the Transports are secured and safe, go down in a blaze of glory and take down the First Order’s lead destroyer in the process? I mean, ****, had she done that, there would be no dead Luke, no dead Rebels, the Rebels’ location would’ve been safe and secure, and the First Order’s entire leadership would’ve been wiped out before they’d even known what hit them. So, I reiterate, what the actual ****, Laura Dern?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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How is that PG-13?

 

[guyver1]

Is that true what Johnson said he wrote the script before TFA was even filmed

 

[jye4ever]

Meditating on a rock. Khev will use force projection to post one last time, then disappear forever.

 

[DarthNeil]

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Nice.

EVERY movie is art. Good and bad. Open to interpretation. This one no less. Warts (or nipples) and all.

 

[crows]

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You know he only used the cup because rey was there... he prefers to drink from that thick soft round source

 

[Sassafras]

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ITALIAN art, even.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I am making a Raiders cologne for Wor-Gar and a SW 77 cologne for you.

Raiders cologne... smell ancient.

 

[crows]

Jedi cant fly either, or else yoda wouldnt need this

Somehow leia is much more powerful than both yoda, vader and obi......

 

[DarthNeil]

Yes, I like tragic heroes, but I don't like stupid heroes.

If you're at odds with yourself about killing your powerful, force sensitive nephew, how about keeping you laser sword that makes a loud, idling hum, switched to off, Luke you dumb ass.

Luke is a mess in these Disney movies. I wouldn't have minded if they made him a "grey" or Dark Jedi, or even the villain. I knew he'd die, so I didn't mind. It has nothing to do with that. Making him this cynical humbug that looks and acts like my alcoholic uncle Steve is just a huge let down. Just like they regressed Han Solo back to his old smuggling ways before throwing him down the shaft or how they lobotomized Chewie, 3PO and R2 into quiet, mindless background characters, they completely tore down Luke Skywalker. He was lame, uninteresting and died the worst death in the franchise, out doing ****ing Padme She died of a broken heart
Amidala.

I'm all for deconstructing characters but he ended up being worse than hermit Bruce Wayne from Rises. Uber driving alcoholic Logan got it right this year, Last Jedi? Not so much. My favorite character from Star Wars returned to the big screen after 40 years only to contemplate killing a blood relative (despite being the optimistic person that could see the good in everyone), stay on an island fishing and ****ing nun gnomes for most of his life, make a map with his location so people could find him, despite not wanting to be found, drinking titty milk from a monster, getting schooled by a little girl, getting trash talked by dead Yoda (did this movie forget that Luke made the right decision in ROTJ while Obi-Wan and Yoda were wrong?), and dying a martyr with one of the most pathetic deaths in this film series. He died for nothing. Not only was he not really there, Rey and Chewbacca would have saved Leia, Poe and the gang regardless. After 40 years, he was awkwardly revealed on a literal cliff hanger, and died on a rock crying. It was pathetic.

All strong thoughts-- respect that 100%.

Disagree. Happy with what I got.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Yes, I like tragic heroes, but I don't like stupid heroes.

If you're at odds with yourself about killing your powerful, force sensitive nephew, how about keeping you laser sword that makes a loud, idling hum, switched to off, Luke you dumb ass.

I guess Luke forgot how to telekinetically force choke a person...

 

[Adam1138]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

 

[a-dev]

Isn't that a dark-side power? Did those Gamorreans die from that?

Meh. Maybe I just don't care anymore.

 

[DarthNeil]

I guess Luke forgot how to telekinetically force choke a person...

I interpreted the flicking on of the green lightsaber in the hut as a fleeting reaction to facing the deep darkness that he felt inside of Ben Solo... I really liked the shifting of perspective for that pivotal scene.