Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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Just came from seeing it and like Ben Solo, I'm conflicted. There were some great parts and then there some wtf parts. There was no explanation as to who Snoke was, or where he came from, or how someone that powerful in the force was never before mentioned in the past with the Emperor and Vader. Rey's parents are nobody drunks? Really? And some how these drunks gave birth to this power jedi/force user? I honestly thought the whole time watching that Rey and Ben were brother and sister; a daughter lost and presumed dead. I hope there's more too it than it. And Benecio Del Toro's character. Who the heck was that guy? I remember he talked about how important this character was and how mysterious.

They had talked about how Carrie Fisher had a fitting end in this movie, so naturally you would assume Leia dies, buuttt she doesn't? If having her get shot out into space, and use the force to presumably survive is just lazy writing imo. They should have done better. There were a lot of stuff like that in the movie. BB-8 conveniently is controlling a Walker in the nick of time, one lone shuttle that's completely untouched with everything else burning around it for them to escape in, Captain Phasma once again going out like a *****.

I can see now why Mark Hammil was so against the direction they gave to Luke, and I agree completely. I don't feel Luke would have ever gone as far as igniting his saber to strike down an innocent person, let alone his nephew, even if he did back down immediately. I get the whole tragic figure/hero thing, that they're not without flaws, but to do that seems completely out of character. And I can see how he became so powerful with the force over the years that he was able to force project and Palpatine for example never did. He used the last of his power to do this and presume to now be a force ghost in Ep9, and I'm ok with that.

Rose is and was such a throw away character, and how convenient that the one planet where this so called code breaker is on is the same one she was on in her past life. Of ALLLL the planets and cities across the galaxy. That whole scene was a complete waste, they never got the right code breaker anyway, all it served was to give some background on Rose, which lets face it, no one really cares. Finn pretty much had nothing in this film if you think about it. Chewie had more of an importance.

Overall, I thought it was just ok and had a lot more disappointing moments. I really expecting to learn more and instead we barely got any info that we didn't already know before. A lot of the comedy seemed to work, which is good at least. I don't know. Just didn't feel it. Maybe if I watch it again who knows.
 
Jedi cant fly either, or else yoda wouldnt need this

Somehow leia is much more powerful than both yoda, vader and obi......

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Zero gravity, yo. She didn’t fly. She just pulled the ship closer to her.:lol
 
Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

So... at least we know how Kylo and Snoke originally met. Snoke was Kylo's steroid dealer.

I managed to snap this iphone pic of shirtless Kylo from my theater seat:

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Just came from seeing it and like Ben Solo, I'm conflicted. There were some great parts and then there some wtf parts. There was no explanation as to who Snoke was, or where he came from, or how someone that powerful in the force was never before mentioned in the past with the Emperor and Vader. Rey's parents are nobody drunks? Really? And some how these drunks gave birth to this power jedi/force user? I honestly thought the whole time watching that Rey and Ben were brother and sister; a daughter lost and presumed dead. I hope there's more too it than it. And Benecio Del Toro's character. Who the heck was that guy? I remember he talked about how important this character was and how mysterious.

They had talked about how Carrie Fisher had a fitting end in this movie, so naturally you would assume Leia dies, buuttt she doesn't? If having her get shot out into space, and use the force to presumably survive is just lazy writing imo. They should have done better. There were a lot of stuff like that in the movie. BB-8 conveniently is controlling a Walker in the nick of time, one lone shuttle that's completely untouched with everything else burning around it for them to escape in, Captain Phasma once again going out like a *****.

I can see now why Mark Hammil was so against the direction they gave to Luke, and I agree completely. I don't feel Luke would have ever gone as far as igniting his saber to strike down an innocent person, let alone his nephew, even if he did back down immediately. I get the whole tragic figure/hero thing, that they're not without flaws, but to do that seems completely out of character. And I can see how he became so powerful with the force over the years that he was able to force project and Palpatine for example never did. He used the last of his power to do this and presume to now be a force ghost in Ep9, and I'm ok with that.

Rose is and was such a throw away character, and how convenient that the one planet where this so called code breaker is on is the same one she was on in her past life. Of ALLLL the planets and cities across the galaxy. That whole scene was a complete waste, they never got the right code breaker anyway, all it served was to give some background on Rose, which lets face it, no one really cares. Finn pretty much had nothing in this film if you think about it. Chewie had more of an importance.

Overall, I thought it was just ok and had a lot more disappointing moments. I really expecting to learn more and instead we barely got any info that we didn't already know before. A lot of the comedy seemed to work, which is good at least. I don't know. Just didn't feel it. Maybe if I watch it again who knows.

Rose was never on this planet-- it reminded her of the mining planet that she called home.
 
Isn't that a dark-side power? Did those Gamorreans die from that?

Meh. Maybe I just don't care anymore.

Well, it's just telekinesis, which all force users can use, but how you choose to use the abilities determine whether you are a jedi or a sith it seems, so while it's technically a method that the sith like to use, it's not a "dark side" power, just a method that anyone with telekinesis can use in SW or in any fictional universe. The Jedi know how to do it, but just like the lightning, it's forbidden...unless you use it to burn down a tree now :lol

Luke wasn't really a Jedi at that point, so he used it...I guess. Did those pigs die from it? Not necessarily, because you can choke someone to sleep or hold on long enough to kill them, if they're physically vulnerable.

Luke could easily kill a sleeping child with it....unless Kylo is strong enough to wake up, and fight back, but I doubt it.
 
Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

So... at least we know how Kylo and Snoke originally met. Snoke was Kylo's steroid dealer.

I managed to snap this iphone pic of shirtless Kylo from my theater seat:

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:lol Yeah yet another ridiculous scene! There's just Soo many of them. I'd actually forgot about that :slap
 
Isn't that a dark-side power? Did those Gamorreans die from that?
Luke is his own man.
He's not brainwashed by Jedi or Sith into bein' black or white.
He struggle to keep the balance and makes the right choice in the end.

In OT, of course.
 
Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Is there any explanation as to why the speeders were creating the red dust clouds on Crait? The Walkers knew where the main entrance door was, surely they have thermal imaging or could pinpoint via some type of GPS, seemed a pointless exercise.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

From this morning's box office report that is sourced by most major news outlets (mostly trumpeting TLJ's massive $220m opening weekend):

"However, there may be a small glitch in the Force as many are pointing to the RottenTomatoes audience score for Last Jedi, which is currently 56% vs. a 93% score from critics. It is the largest audience-to-critic divide for films in the Star Wars franchise on the site. Additionally, IMDb is showing a down tick in user ratings when compared to user ratings for Force Awakens (8.8/10) and Rogue One (8.3/10) on the Sunday following release with Last Jedi currently holding a 8/10 rating. Just how significant an effect this data has on the film may be difficult to assess..."

This is now indeed huge - and official.
 
We have a upset DC fan pushing the Disney pays critics narrative :rotfl (it's illegal by the way). I see you decide to ignore the A cinemascore, which is the people that actually see the movie. But sure, the series is doomed because you and a few others on here aren't going to repeat view or buy the blu-ray for the first time ever. Oh no!

TLJ was an A, the JL is a solid B+. The lowest rating scores they have is an F...


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I thought Kylo was corrupted by Snoke, took some of Luke's students, formed the knights of Ren and went to Luke's academy, killing all his students and burning everything to the ground ala Anakin Skywalker?

Isn't that what happened after he has his run-in with Luke?

He surely runs home to Snoke, says you were right. Snoke, like Palpatine, quickly names him Kylo Ren -- because its very clever -- and then Ren dashes back to school, tells the kids he's cool now and has a mask, so some lonely losers join him, and they then burn down the school. Maybe Luke was trapped under that pile for a long time? Maybe the flashback included a 2nd dumping on Luke that he had to crawl out of? The movie's full of repeated action. Threepeat even.
 
One thing is consistent, Luke sucks at planning. His rescue plan in ROTJ sucked and 30 years later, his final plan was to kill himself from a safe and comfortable place after failing as a teacher to both Rey and Kylo. Nice.
 
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but TLJ just made more in three days than JL has made in 31!

KK's plan is proceeding as she has foreseen (until the record second weekend drop...)
 
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but TLJ just made more in three days than JL has made in 31!

KK's plan is proceeding as she has foreseen (until the record second weekend drop...)

Its coming. This film is getting murdered online (deservedly so).
 
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