Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[jye4ever]

I spent a whopping $19 for my ticket so if i’m going to defend TLJ it’s certainly not to make myself feel better about wasting 19 one dollar bills therefore it’s more than likely i’m defending it because I actually enjoyed the movie.

I know right mind = blown.

Yes i’m here to debate Snikt because I can’t live with myself over my $19 ticket price.

This is why I refer to DiFabio as Master D.

 

[Asta]

must have been the cold then.

It wasn't, as indicated by these pilots:

I'm just trying to explain why the film was a mess, and part of the answer seems clear:


Until a very late stage it is evident Crait was meant to be a snow planet like Hoth. Otherwise there wouldn't have been arctic foxes with ice crystal-like fur, or snowtroopers.



Ergo, there were major changes to the screenplay after a lot of the production had been completed. The foxes looked good, and would've taken a lot of work to accomplish, so no question of throwing them out.


Making changes to the screenplay so late in production helps to explain why the film isn't cohesive.

 

[ZaCHw117]

It wasn't, as indicated by these pilots:

I'm just trying to explain why the film was a mess, and part of the answer seems clear:


Until a very late stage it is evident Crait was meant to be a snow planet like Hoth. Otherwise there wouldn't have been arctic foxes with ice crystal-like fur, or snowtroopers.



Ergo, there were major changes to the screenplay after a lot of the production had been completed. The foxes looked good, and would've taken a lot of work to accomplish, so no question of throwing them out.


Making changes to the screenplay so late in production helps to explain why the film isn't cohesive.

the resistance weren’t prepared to land on crait. hence why they don’t have the proper gear, nor have they really have. just like with the ski speeders, they make do.

 

[sharpnel]

Re: The Last Jedi

Rogue One is still the best. Everything about it I love and the ending is an epic surprise. That's an awesome way to go out with a big bang.

 

[jye4ever]

the resistance weren’t prepared to land on crait. hence why they don’t have the proper gear, nor have they really have. just like with the ski speeders, they make do.

Sounds cohesive to me.

 

[ZaCHw117]

crait is a cold planet, so regardless of when they decided to include snowtroopers it makes sense in the move and that’s all
that matters.

 

[Asta]

the resistance weren’t prepared to land on crait. hence why they don’t have the proper gear, nor have they really have. just like with the ski speeders, they make do.

Those pilots would've been too frozen to operate their craft.

You don't get it.

I don't expect you to get it.

Because you loved the film you're entirely subjective in your defence of it.



I'm completely objective because this trilogy was never going to form Star Wars canon for me.

You can see that this was meant to be a snow planet, and suddenly snow becomes salt, but without changing things that had already been completed.

Whereas TFA knew where it was going, TLJ explodes in all directions with story and mood. Somehow they managed to put a film together that could be released.

 

[matticus]

 

[ZaCHw117]

Those pilots would've been too frozen to operate their craft.

You don't get it.

I don't expect you to get it.

Because you loved the film you're entirely subjective in your defence of it.



I'm completely objective because this trilogy was never going to form Star Wars canon for me.

You can see that this was meant to be a snow planet, and suddenly snow becomes salt, but without changing things that had already been completed.

Whereas TFA knew where it was going, TLJ explodes in all directions with story and mood. Somehow they managed to put a film together that could be released.

i don’t really give 2 ****s about your precious canon.

have you not heard of a tundra? cold doesn’t automatically =snow. plus, crait was shown in the first trailer, meaning they decided it was a cold old planet early enough in production.

 

[jye4ever]

Those pilots would've been too frozen to operate their craft.

You don't get it.

I don't expect you to get it.

Because you loved the film you're entirely subjective in your defence of it.



I'm completely objective because this trilogy was never going to form Star Wars canon for me.

You can see that this was meant to be a snow planet, and suddenly snow becomes salt, but without changing things that had already been completed.

Whereas TFA knew where it was going, TLJ explodes in all directions with story and mood. Somehow they managed to put a film together that could be released.

Seriously after all of the Gareth/Gilroy and LegoBros/Kasdan bts drama you’re going to go with snow to sand as evidence of a troubled production for TLJ, really.

 

[Asta]

i don’t really give 2 ****s about your precious canon.

have you not heard of a tundra? cold doesn’t automatically =snow. plus, crait was shown in the first trailer, meaning theydecided it was a cold old planet early enough in production.

You're obviously not playing with a full deck so I'll won't press the issue.


But look at the picture:

Maybe he borrowed Leia's force bubble to keep warm?

 

[ZaCHw117]

Seriously after all of the Gareth/Gilroy and LegoBros/Kasdan bts drama you’re going to go with snow to sand as evidence of a troubled production for TLJ, really.

yeah, kind of pointless argument tbh. some people just feel the need to **** on everything if they don’t like it as a whole, even the good.

 

[ZaCHw117]

You're obviously not playing with a full deck so I'll won't press the issue.


But look at the picture:

Maybe he borrowed Leia's force bubble to keep warm?

i see a screen rip of finn yelling

 

[matticus]

i don’t really give 2 ****s about your precious canon.

have you not heard of a tundra? cold doesn’t automatically =snow. plus, crait was shown in the first trailer, meaning they decided it was a cold old planet early enough in production.

"Hey guys! Walkers, snow and a trench of troops is just a rip off of Empire Strikes Back. Let's put in a shot that has one guy saying it's salt. Now it's not a rip off of Empire!"

 

[ZaCHw117]

i don’t see how it’s a rip off of hoth, it looks nothing like it and it wasn’t near the size of battle. there want even much of a battle.

 

[jye4ever]

i don’t really give 2 ****s about your precious canon.

have you not heard of a tundra? cold doesn’t automatically =snow. plus, crait was shown in the first trailer, meaning they decided it was a cold old planet early enough in production.

If I can take out the garbage in shorts and tshirt when it’s 17 degrees outside I most certainly can fight for my life in a speeder with the heat turned on while wearing summer clothing.

 

[ZaCHw117]

yeah in my neck of the woods people wear shorts and parkas, it’s 20 degrees here.

 

[Blood Electricity]

I think Justice league managed to be a more enjoyable and coherent movie than this one. Which had a ton of crap stacked against it. And I'm a huge DC comics fan. I should have hated that movie. I still got to see characters I love interact in a fitting and familiar way that I've never actually seen in a live action film. Those interactions made it worthwhile.

Luke deserved better. I think what I dislike the most is how I don't think they have a clue where this story is going besides to a family friendly, diverse, toy selling, safe place. Now with peanut butter!

Two years isn't enough time between these movies. Get the three movie arcs outlined, then get the scripts air tight. Figure out beats and pacing then make movies.

I felt like this movie didn't consider the characters or their interactions as much as it wanted audience reactions. Very forced and clunky. And jj made a soft reboot/sequel and practically begged you to expect the known tropes and ask certain questions. Lambs to the slaughter.

I think this is more the matrix revolutions than reloaded. Subverting the hero expectations and betraying the pre-established world rules. Neo blind in the real world but still in the matrix via magic wifi.

Maybe even a tinge of the Ghostbusters remake. Using the past as a spring board but simultaneously tearing it apart.

I'm gonna watch it again and try to breathe. just...Breathe.

Maybe I'll get stoned and forget about my relationship to these characters.

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[jye4ever]

yeah in my neck of the woods people wear shorts and parkas, it’s 20 degrees here.

Oh look they showed Walkers in Snoke’s star destroyer hanger quick turn on the snow making machine.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Oh look they showed Walkers in Snoke’s star destroyer hanger quick turn on the snow making machine.

man did you see the chicken walkers? what a rip off of ROTJ.