Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Adolfo]

Disney is now the New World Order....it is futile to resist

 

[klwn]

The trouble is, Kathleen has given these directors too much freedom! They had no plan or structure as to how they wanted this trilogy to go, so why even have a storyboard?

They should have laid down some ground work for the directors to follow. This is who Rey is, this is who Snoke is etc etc.
The fact that JJ set up all these storylines for RJ to be able to come in and **** all over them is ridiculous and he has left no where for the story to go so now JJ really has his work cut out.

Blows my mind as well. The fact that there was no established plan going into VIII/IX, for a franchise like Star Wars, that's truly puzzling.

It's not like they had to start from scratch, they got all the people from Lucasfilm in the deal, with all their lore and canon experience. Not to mention Lucas would have been happy to help since he gave them his personal outline for VII, VIII and IX and they threw it away.

 

[Adolfo]

[FONT=&]Johnson shares his response to the backlash. Here it is, in full:
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"Having been a Star Wars fan my whole life, and having spent most of my life on the other side of the curb and in that fandom, it softens the blow a little bit.


I’m aware through my own experience that, first of all, the fans are so passionate, they care so deeply — sometimes they care very violently at me on Twitter. But it’s because they care about these things, and it hurts when you’re expecting something specific and you don’t get it from something that you love. It always hurts, so I don’t take it personally if a fan reacts negatively and lashes out on me on Twitter. That’s fine. It’s my job to be there for that. Like you said, every fan has a list of stuff they want a Star Wars movie to be and they don’t want a Star Wars movie to be. You’re going to find very few fans out there whose lists line up.


And I also know the same way the original movies were personal for Lucas. Lucas never made a Star Wars movie by sitting down and thinking, “What do the fans want to see?” And I knew if I wrote wondering what the fans would want, as tempting as that is, it wouldn’t work, because people would still be shouting at me, “F— you, you ruined Star Wars,” and I would make a bad movie. And ultimately, that’s the one thing nobody wants.


And let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I’ve gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. There’s been a lot of joy and love from fans. When I talk about the negative stuff, that’s not the full picture of the fans at all."
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It means that 10-20% of us still have our brains in good working order...Disney and friends are turning folks into pods like invasion of the body snatchers

 

[Jme_c]

[FONT=&]Johnson shares his response to the backlash. Here it is, in full:
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"Having been a Star Wars fan my whole life, and having spent most of my life on the other side of the curb and in that fandom, it softens the blow a little bit.


I’m aware through my own experience that, first of all, the fans are so passionate, they care so deeply — sometimes they care very violently at me on Twitter. But it’s because they care about these things, and it hurts when you’re expecting something specific and you don’t get it from something that you love. It always hurts, so I don’t take it personally if a fan reacts negatively and lashes out on me on Twitter. That’s fine. It’s my job to be there for that. Like you said, every fan has a list of stuff they want a Star Wars movie to be and they don’t want a Star Wars movie to be. You’re going to find very few fans out there whose lists line up.


And I also know the same way the original movies were personal for Lucas. Lucas never made a Star Wars movie by sitting down and thinking, “What do the fans want to see?” And I knew if I wrote wondering what the fans would want, as tempting as that is, it wouldn’t work, because people would still be shouting at me, “F— you, you ruined Star Wars,” and I would make a bad movie. And ultimately, that’s the one thing nobody wants.


And let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I’ve gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. There’s been a lot of joy and love from fans. When I talk about the negative stuff, that’s not the full picture of the fans at all."
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I would never be rude to Rian because at the end of the day this is his art and I do feel bad for criticising it so heavily and so negatively. But at the end of the day this is a bad Star Wars Movie and he should have perhaps thought more about what the fans want, because in no world was killing off Luke Skywalker and making him a complete loser a good idea!

 

[SNIKT1950]

Let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I’ve gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. There’s been a lot of joy and love from fans. When I talk about the negative stuff, that’s not the full picture of the fans at all."

Yeah, dude's smoking that good ****. Most of the internet hates his contribution to SW and wants him fired from Lucasfilm.

There's not a chance in HELL he still gets to work on that new trilogy. Dude is hated by the fandom and Disney won't ignore that.

 

[Adolfo]

Disney kills religion...the force Jedi and Sith must end...the Skywalker Christ bloodline must end....earths new world order Disney must triumph

 

[klwn]

Rian Johnson doesn't get it. It's not about going in the opposite direction of what fans want or doing exactly what they want. It's a sweet spot, there is balance, like everything else.

For example, people would be far less pissed if the movie was the same but treated Luke differently. Of course that's just the tip of the iceberg, but that's one less issue if they do Luke justice, so you bring it closer to that balance.

The fact that he had to post this barely a week after release proves that he really screwed up for a lot of people.

 

[Jme_c]

Blows my mind as well. The fact that there was no established plan going into VIII/IX, for a franchise like Star Wars, that's truly puzzling.

It's not like they had to start from scratch, they got all the people from Lucasfilm in the deal, with all their lore and canon experience. Not to mention Lucas would have been happy to help since he gave them his personal outline for VII, VIII and IX and they threw it away.

From what I hear his treatment sucked! It was only a very basic outline and focused around very young characters.

 

[Asta]

TLJ was a social experiment to see how much crap people will swallow. And how many times they'll go back to lick the toilet bowl clean while waiting for seconds.

 

[klwn]

From what I hear his treatment sucked! It was only a very basic outline and focused around very young characters.

Yeah I did hear that as well, what I meant is, if he gave them that, he probably would have helped if asked with the new trilogy, even if it had nothing to do with the story he had in mind. But obviously they want to distance themselves as much as possible from anything Lucas/PT.

 

[noface]

Was Luke's lightsaber in his hands or attached to his belt when he was looking over Kylo? Was he really thinking of killing him because I remember Kylo igniting his lightsaber first.

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[klwn]

Was Luke's lightsaber in his hands or attached to his belt when he was looking over Kylo? Was he really thinking of killing him because I remember Kylo igniting his lightsaber first.

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Luke ignites his first, the noise of the blade wakes up Kylo.

 

[Adolfo]

Dark horse star wars comics > Disney star wars

 

[Jme_c]

I am really concerned for how they will handle Carries absence now! Really worried!

Things that can't be undone in 9... Luke's Death, so we have to accept now that he will just be a force ghost!
Snoke's Death, having him still alive would take up too much time explaining how and this is the final act so needs to round stuff up not create more questions.

What can be fixed, Rey's parentage!

I'm just still so miffed that they created a new trilogy without any idea and outline as to how it was going to go!

 

[Adolfo]

Disney loves heroes like poor misunderstood Kylo who came from white privilege. ..he aint evil...he is only a misunderstood victim from whites and religion...now if the Skywalker name was Abdul Mohammed. ..he he

 

[Adolfo]

Jye's single gold tooth > all of Zach's gold and all of his toofs combined

 

[SNIKT1950]

TLJ was a social experiment to see how much crap people will swallow. And how many times they'll go back to lick the toilet bowl clean while waiting for seconds.

#GetEm

 

[Jme_c]

And with Han dying in Episode 7 I thought there's no way they will kill off Luke! Where's the logic in that?
I just can't, I really can't! I am going to watch it again tonight and see if I see it any differently.
This all feels like a bad dream I am waiting to wake up from!

 

[noface]

Luke ignites his first, the noise of the blade wakes up Kylo.

When Luke told Rey his version of what went on, I remember Kylo igniting his lightsaber first thinking that Luke was about to kill him then Luke ignited his to block his attack. I'm sorry. I know I'm the one who asked but I just wanted to make sure. Kylo is the one that thought Luke had his lightsaber ignited or he was lying to Rey that he thought Luke ignited his first to kill him.

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[klwn]

When Luke told Rey his version of what went on, I remember Kylo igniting his lightsaber first thinking that Luke was about to kill him then Luke ignited his to block his attack. I'm sorry. I know I'm the one who asked but I just wanted to make sure. Kylo is the one that thought Luke had his lightsaber ignited or he was lying to Rey that he thought Luke ignited his first to kill him.

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No, even in the final "real" flashback, Luke ignites it first but he hesitates. Then looks at Kylo and sees his eyes are open, and it all goes to ****.