Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Spazz]

Well hey at least you're finally recognizing that that's all they are.

Huh? You're not making sense. All knowledge involves opinion. You don't have absolute certainty regarding anything. No one does. You lead with the best theory (or 'opinion') based on evidence. You learn by trying to disprove your own opinion...

 

[Khev]

I didnt even notice lol. No wonder everyone is going at your posts so hard

Are they though?

I wouldn't call any of the back and forth here particularly heated.

 

[Adolfo]

TLJ is like killing Santa in order to kill christmas...

 

[Lakhota]

Ruin Jonson destroyed Christmas! I would rather have just got coal in my stocking [emoji30][emoji30]


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[crows]

Are they though?

I wouldn't call any of the back and forth here particularly heated.

A little bit. Just a little bit lol.

 

[JAWS]

We currently live in a culture where outrage is an addiction. People must be offended by everything and read way too much into everything. And not joining such silliness does not mean that TLJ went over my head. I let films speak for themselves. .

But I saw a film that sync'd perfectly with the directors own words that he simply wanted things to be hard for the characters and gave us an organic fulfillment of that very non-political agenda.

See thats just how bad the script was.. The situations they were in were not hard enough. So we ended up blaming feminism

 

[crows]

RUIN Johnson ruined christmas, this thread is proof.

 

[JAWS]

Are they though?

I wouldn't call any of the back and forth here particularly heated.

Nope it has been mostly fun... Only one male has been accused of having a V*gina.....

I wonder who that was.....

 

[jal76]

Erase them from the media. Change their history. Shame them at a young age in schools to self hate. Promote open boarders, discourage white couples from having babies..Remove them from positions of power, take away their income through law. Encourage them to join army. Discourage them from marriage. Destroy the typical american family idea. Destroy their religion. Replace their religion. Punish them for having problematic opinions. Encourage public shaming for sharing those opinions. Make it illegal to speak against the agenda.

HA HA HA HA...what a mess the inside of your head is! Maybe you would like Star Wars more if they replaced the light sabers with tiki torches?

 

[jye4ever]

The film wasn't subtle. If you couldn't detect radical feminism within the film, that's because you're not familiar with it. It's not about the presence of women, or the number of women in the film. It's about the way men and women interacted in the film, the consequences of the characters' actions, and the normative values that were explicitly stated by the characters.

I saw Holdo’s sacrifice as her recognition that Poe was the best choice to keep the resistance alive.

 

[Khev]

See thats just how bad the script was.. The situations they were in were not hard enough. So we ended up blaming feminism

Is that what's going on? Aw well...

But come on, even ESB ended with everyone (except Han) all chilling cozily with their peeps outside the galaxy in their big armada. The end of TLJ has the handful of Resistance members all huddled together in nothing but the Falcon itself!

 

[spindrift]

I think all the "hate" for TLJ on these forums is somewhat overblown- having a dig for the kicks. The more I read about how TLJ single-handily destroyed all of SW and turned SW fandom against Disney etc etc the more I think this is some kind of sarcasm in unison. I get alot of you don't care for the film but the way it's being hammered over and over again not with a mallet but a steam shovel..hard to take it seriously- soooo over - the - top.

 

[aa909]

The film wasn't subtle. If you couldn't detect radical feminism within the film, that's because you're not familiar with it. It's not about the presence of women, or the number of women in the film. It's about the way men and women interacted in the film, the consequences of the characters' actions, and the normative values that were explicitly stated by the characters.

If you don't see it, you don't see it. I won't try to convince you.

Variety sums it up,

"The film’s progressive ideology is already ticking off some calcified corners of the fandom—the kind of fans who dismissed Ridley’s heroic Rey as a too-powerful “Mary Sue” after the last film. But just because some Star Wars lovers are out of reach for the message this movie delivers, there is still hope for a new generation. Just like that kid at the end of The Last Jedi, holding his broom aloft and wearing the resistance jewelry left behind by Rose, an entire generation of young Star Wars watchers will remember the brave, smart, capable women of The Last Jedi—and the consequences of doubting their leadership".

Don't question authority, because feminism.

Another great post. The irony is the rebuttals I’m reading aren’t pro feminist responses, they’re mosty In denial of what they’re watching.

BTW the feminism I grew up with was about equality for women. Today’s feminism is about elevating women and basically *****ting on men.

Where were the rational strong male leaders in the rebellion? Who were the male role models for little boys? The hot headed Poe? The grumpy Luke? The irrational and emotional Kylo? The useless Finn?

The female role models were nearly perfect in how they were characterized. But let’s keep ignoring this massive disparity.

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[Adolfo]

Is that what's going on? Aw well...

But come on, even ESB ended with everyone (except Han) all chilling cozily with their peeps outside the galaxy in their big armada. The end of TLJ has the handful of Resistance members all huddled together in nothing but the Falcon itself!

Are you nuts...Han slept like a baby and chilled cozily more than anyone

 

[subzro]

I think all the "hate" for TLJ on these forums is somewhat overblown- having a dig for the kicks. The more I read about how TLJ single-handily destroyed all of SW and turned SW fandom against Disney etc etc the more I think this is some kind of sarcasm in unison. I get alot of you don't care for the film but the way it's being hammered over and over again not with a mallet but a steam shovel..hard to take it seriously- soooo over - the - top.

It's the Russians feeding fake info into the forums

 

[spindrift]

It's the Russians feeding fake info into the forums

 

[aa909]

I saw Holdo’s sacrifice as her recognition that Poe was the best choice to keep the resistance alive.

LOL! That’s was good one! Dude you have some of the funniest posts

 

[xipotec]

Erase them from the media. Change their history. Shame them at a young age in schools to self hate. Promote open boarders, discourage white couples from having babies..Remove them from positions of power, take away their income through law. Encourage them to join army. Discourage them from marriage. Destroy the typical american family idea. Destroy their religion. Replace their religion. Punish them for having problematic opinions. Encourage public shaming for sharing those opinions. Make it illegal to speak against the agenda.

I appreciate the clear honest answer....

But do people actually believe this would happen? Especially from a film or social media? Or are then just joking around?

Or is it just an excuse for them to blame something on natural change of attitude from what they consider norms throughout history?

I mean the only time white males have been persecuted in history is when other whites persecuted them....

Do they really think this is possible???

I would grant them that white status will inevitably wain in the future do to genetics and the mixing of cultures....

But the rest just seems like a paranoid fever dream?




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[Lakhota]

I think all the "hate" for TLJ on these forums is somewhat overblown- having a dig for the kicks. The more I read about how TLJ single-handily destroyed all of SW and turned SW fandom against Disney etc etc the more I think this is some kind of sarcasm in unison. I get alot of you don't care for the film but the way it's being hammered over and over again not with a mallet but a steam shovel..hard to take it seriously- soooo over - the - top.

I think fans like myself wished we loved the movie, I am quite jealous of the people that enjoyed it. It definitely ruined more than a handful of plots and characters we all loved. I don’t think fans would purposely torture themselves for fake attention


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