Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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It's a strange thing. We love SW so much, and we're used to loving it. But when you replace what we love with something we hate, we hate it just as passionately. Isn't it odd?
 
Because the love of SW was false. People were also conditioned that Star Wars is cool. Specifically the OT and to hate the PT because other people hated it and made it their purpose to make sure everyone hates it. Lucas was just making it up as he went along. Then the Nu-SW comes along that was supposed to be what the PT wasn't because it has Luke, Leia and Han and real sets. It turned out that Disney was also making it up as they went along and it was bad as well. This confused all millennials as well as the OT fans. Causing a system shutdown.
 
Causing a system shutdown.

And the rest is history.

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First it was transwarp beaming, now it's hyperspace tracking and Force projection. Abrams and his operatives are determined to introduce new tech/powers into everything they touch.
 
Now every time I hear Taps. ...Star Wars 1977-2017 will always come to mind
 
First it was transwarp beaming, now it's hyperspace tracking and Force projection. Abrams and his operatives are determined to introduce new tech/powers into everything they touch.

Disney where all dreams can come true. ..anything goes now ladies and gentlemen. ..anything but old school...can't wait for superserum star wars and Rey becoming the force queen from reading her self help cookbooks...yep...Star Wishes episode Nein the force speads
 
Because the love of SW was false. People were also conditioned that Star Wars is cool. Specifically the OT and to hate the PT because other people hated it and made it their purpose to make sure everyone hates it. Lucas was just making it up as he went along. Then the Nu-SW comes along that was supposed to be what the PT wasn't because it has Luke, Leia and Han and real sets. It turned out that Disney was also making it up as they went along and it was bad as well. This confused all millennials as well as the OT fans. Causing a system shutdown.

Well OT SW is cool everyone will agree on that.

PT are mostly hated for a very good reason they’re poorly made films with bad writing, acting and poor use of cgi with a broken Anakin/ObiWan narrative. That was them being good friends, really. The PT are not hated because Lucas was making it up as he went along although i’m sure that didn’t help either.

The Lucas can’t do no wrong PT diehards were obviously going to turn against the ST that was a given, time for revenge.

The Disney corporation diehard haters were obviously going to turn against the ST that was a given.

The current majority rulers of the land were obviously going to turn against a Kennedy with agenda helmed Lucasfilm that was a given.

I can look at new SW 2 ways.

1. Stop making them because I will never accept them especially if by Disney and especially if by a female lead Lucasfilm with an agenda and I will show my anger to the world.

2. Keep making them who cares because even if they suck they will never ruin the OT so why not keep trying maybe a great one will be squeezed out.
 
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Meh, I have a lot of issues with the PT but still love huge parts of them (so call me a Lucas diehard), yet had zero intention of hating anything Disney Star Wars was gonna do. I love Star Wars, I don't care where it comes from, I just want great movies and more lore to dream about.

These generalizations work under the assumption that to fans, where Star Wars comes from matters more than the quality of the movies. I think that's an incredibly small minority.

Like many people said, the agenda doesn't even really matter as long as the movies are great. TLJ missed the mark on that last part. No one would care about Holdo if the movie had been as epic as it should have been, had used Luke properly, offered proper lightsaber scenes, didn't have a giant useless story arc, etc...
 
Jye from neutral Switzerland, you have officially become the head of the UN ...A massacre has taken place by the communists capitalists of warlords Kennedy and Disney from the country or khevinga...they just unleashed a deadly virus thrust thousands of locations around the globe....what are you going to do????...Call XXX,OR THE 00s, Aragorn, the A team, or Jon Snow...call somebody!!!! Rise up man, choose a side, the civilized world needs you!!! Put down that French toast brioche and soy latte and make a manly decision!!! What say you man!!!
 
Wish this was a Mara Jade and Luke as Reys parents film...the Force would still be intact....F K N Disney communist film
 
TLJ destroyed the force that not only binds the galaxy and all living things together ...but it binded our beloved characters together. ..TLJ character cohesiveness was dead...the force always kept things in line,kept things truly related to each other even if from opposite spectrums(Jedi & Sith for ex)...TLJ wanted anti capitalism and animal rights,and feminism, anti law and order, purple,kids with brooms,tittles,and other boolsheet to bind the galaxy and characters together. ...I can't use the word beloved any more for the living Star Wars characters...the force is dead means Star Wars is dead...finis
 
They don't have to stop making more. They can make whatever they want. But if you're fed up, like I am, we need to stop paying to see this garbage. I haven't paid since TFA. I still ended up seeing TLJ but only cause my friend bought me a ticket and insisted I go. So even though it wasn't my actual cash, I still ended up contributing to the box office. That's the last time.

Next time I will be more adamant that I don't want to waste my time with this nonsense anymore. I'll just download the camrip bootleg and skim through it to see if there are any cool parts, and that'll be it.
 
Because the love of SW was false. People were also conditioned that Star Wars is cool. Specifically the OT and to hate the PT because other people hated it and made it their purpose to make sure everyone hates it. Lucas was just making it up as he went along. Then the Nu-SW comes along that was supposed to be what the PT wasn't because it has Luke, Leia and Han and real sets. It turned out that Disney was also making it up as they went along and it was bad as well. This confused all millennials as well as the OT fans. Causing a system shutdown.

Well, I didn't hate the PT because others hated it. I hated it because I couldn't tell what the hell was going on half the time, the acting was often laughable and the dialog boring (or laughable) - and the fact that it looked like the whole thing was taking place inside a Pixar movie. There wasn't a living human or genuine emotion in those six often-incomprehensible hours. Storywise, it was like being trapped inside a "Hero With A Thousand Faces" Screenwriter's CD-ROM circa 1995.

I despise the ST for different reasons. It makes sense and has the Star Wars excitement/visuals you expect, but every character - major and minor - is either dull, pointless or a carbon copy and there is nothing at its core - no cultural relevance/resonance (other than the identity politics push,) no romance, no actual mythic journey, no exploration of good and evil. An arrested-development fanboy as master villain - that the movie itself constantly mocks? (Okay, that's sadly relevant.) Rey is protagonist because she's female and... that's about it. Oh, and is superficially like Luke.

And then TLJ put whatever had actually worked about TFA in a blender, and subverted and/or ridiculed whatever OT ethos that TFA had managed to preserve. Yes, it's a system shutdown all right.

TLJ shut down any residual interest I had in the mainline Disney story. It set up absolutely nothing that anyone would be excited to see in Ep IX. I'll still be there for the standalones - RO may have been incestuous in its closeness to ANH, but that's become a strength in my book now. Bring on the "week before ESB" hard prequel.

But Ep IX? What possible reason would any fan have to want to see it other than the now-tired, generic fan response "it's another SW film!"... which happens every six months now anyway, and the media maligns and mocks fans who don't LOVE the IPT - Identity Politics Trilogy. As they keep saying - it's a GREAT time to be a SW fan... right?:)
 
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