Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Darkseed]

I just came here to see how the “30 guys who took down Star Wars” fantasy is moving along, quite healthy I see lol.

A bit of wit......much needed

 

[Ropen]

Well they did say star wars land is here to stay. Love it or hate anything theme park related is a win win


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[Rorywan]

By the way, I don't think SW is dead, or dying as a franchise.
The purity of it is though. It's becoming a generic popcorn Disney tool. I had hope after TFA. But that's gone now.

 

[Craig Walker]

 

[Darkseed]

Purity of the franchise was lost long ago. Lucas pimped the ***** out that’s why Disney bought it. They recognized a good ho that could add a few new services and make even more casholla...

 

[Adolfo]

That video > TLJ

 

[jye4ever]

The prequels were too far removed from Star Wars to have any lasting effect. They were like a spin off TV show or Clone Wars cartoon- take or leave them.
And even though then the backlash was nothing like this. This movie has Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia in it for gawds sake.
This was the movie trilogy that SW fans wanted to love, far more so than the prequels.

Apples and rotten oranges.
Surprised you think the RT score isn't representative though. A large number of my real world SW buddies thought it was **** too. I mean look at this forum? It's too easy to dismiss people dissapontment and actual outrage as a skewed RT score.
That's Disney talk... tut tut.

Far removed?

The PT had Obi Wan, Vader, Emperor, Leia, Luke, Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru, Fett, Antilles, Yoda, Sand People, Jawas, R2, 3PO shall I continue.

I never dismissed the RT just said it was probably slightly skewed with ulterior motives as are the critics reviews who received nice vacations from Disney.

Of course the backlash is real I fully acknowledge that but the subject being discussed was long term irreparable damage which I pointed out that TFA made over 2 billion AFTER the huge damage caused by the PT so SW will be just fine.

Anyways if it makes anyone feel any better I just wrote a letter to Kennedy in it I told her to seriously tone it down with that SJW stuff for IX because she’s seriously upsetting alot of ummm men who are afraid of their own shadows lol

 

[Adolfo]

By the way, I don't think SW is dead, or dying as a franchise.
The purity of it is though. It's becoming a generic popcorn Disney tool. I had hope after TFA. But that's gone now.

Star Wars has been placed in a Cocoon pod...soon to re emerge as Disney Borg in the shape of Kennedy

 

[RIDDICK]

Last part, and then that face... I'm in tears!

 

[Adolfo]

The prequels were too far removed from Star Wars to have any lasting effect. They were like a spin off TV show or Clone Wars cartoon- take or leave them.
And even though then the backlash was nothing like this. This movie has Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia in it for gawds sake.
This was the movie trilogy that SW fans wanted to love, far more so than the prequels.

Apples and rotten oranges.
Surprised you think the RT score isn't representative though. A large number of my real world SW buddies thought it was **** too. I mean look at this forum? It's too easy to dismiss people dissapontment and actual outrage as a skewed RT score.
That's Disney talk... tut tut.

TLJ is so far removed..NOT the PT....Bull*****

 

[morphosis]

Actual quotes from said article:

"The Last Jedi has a clear message: The nearly all-white, overwhemingly male, privilege-based way of thinking that celebrates war culture and toxic masculinity and that created the First Order has to go, both in the larger world and as it’s internalized in our hearts and minds, and in its place will be something entirely new, created by diverse young people who are walking away from war culture, walking away from toxic masculinity, walking away from systems of privilege."

"No matter how much power they accrue, no matter how many angry young white men they convince we are the enemy, the light still stands. The future is brown, and female, and brilliant, and fierce, does not give even one single **** about the way things used to be."

"Please attack cisheteronormativity in your next film."

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[Craig Walker]

I'm in love with a shooting star.

 

[Rorywan]

Last part, and then that face... I'm in tears!

 

[Choryujin]

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Yes, it is true....that article is pure unadulterated hate speech and that Rey is 100% a Mary Sue or MaRey Sue if you will.

 

[Rorywan]

Far removed?

The PT had Obi Wan, Vader, Emperor, Leia, Luke, Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru, Fett, Antilles, Yoda, Sand People, Jawas, R2, 3PO shall I continue.

Please do ! Where?

Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher? Harrison Ford?
The only real OT actor they had was Ian McDiarmid? Everyone else was a prequelisation version.

The stars of the Prequels were Hayden, Portman and McGregor - Only Ewan came out with his profile intact.

The Last Jedi has Mark ****ing Hamill and Carrie ****ing Fisher reprising probably the most iconic characters in film history.
TFA had all three! Not Padme (my face is cardboard) Amidala.

 

[jye4ever]

Where?

Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher? Harrison Ford?
The only real OT actor they had was Ian McDiarmid? Everyone else was a prequelisation version.

The stars of the Prequels were Hayden, Portman and McGregor - Only Ewan came out with his profile intact.

The Last Jedi has Mark ****ing Hamill and Carrie ****ing Fisher!!

Please answer the following question with a yes or no answer.

Did the PT have those “characters” I mentioned in them, not actors but characters.

 

[The Ween]

I said I was sorry if it was posted before. Good Lord. I deleted it so you won't be so hurt by it.

 

[loki2371]

Some people will either never change their opinion or internally rationalize as to why they are right and never admit they are wrong. I know people who refuse to change even when something is literally black or white and being shown irrefutable proof with real world facts... They still cannot process logic or rationalize thought to change their opinion and or admit their mistake.

As far as Luke vs Rey, everything in the OT is implied through either good dialogue and storytelling, or through pacing and knowing the events are spread out. We KNOW Luke is a good pilot through many lines of dialogue and scenes mentioned here in previous posts. Rey recognized a ship and says she's flown a few times. A simple scene with Rey and Unkar Plutt while on Jakku with a few lines of dialogue about her piloting skills is all that's needed for the audience to KNOW shes a skilled pilot. We don't get that, we must simply "believe". Same goes for Luke on Dagobah and his training. We KNOW it takes place over time, again because of pacing and dialogue. We don't have a countdown over our heads as to knowing the events unfold in mere hours like TLJ. Same with Luke's change from the end of ESB to ROTJ. No one changes their confidence level over night, especially after being defeated in the way Luke was by Vader in ESB. He had to build confidence through his training over time, as we know months have gone by. And again through dialogue when Vader sees Luke's lightaber and comments with dialogue how he's grown. Rey has NONE of this. She is simply "Awoken".

And finally comparing Rey's skills with a staff to a lightsaber is a joke. There is NO room for error when practicing with and using a lightsaber. One small error and you lose a limb, a body part, or simply just die. A mistake with Rey's blunt staff and she has a bruise. How anyone can make such a simple comparison is completely beyond reasoning with.

 

[Rorywan]

Please answer the following question with a yes or no answer.

Did the PT have those “characters” I mentioned in them, not actors but characters.

Yes.

So did the Star Wars Holiday Special.. your point?


TFA did what it did regardless of the prequel trilogy. My god do you not remember the effort it went to to separate itself from the PT? All real sets, no green/blue screen, 100% prosthetics... yada yada.. It was a major PR marketing push by Disney to say that this is a new Trilogy, forget that prequel rubbish, we know a lot of you hate it. No, this is the real deal, OT characters is a sequel trilogy.

And here we are, Luke drinks green milk from a rubber sea critters titty, Leia flies through space like Mary Poppins and the second episode in a new trilogy arc completely ignores everything that was started in the first movie. What a ****ing mess.
Still like the porgs though.


... oh and some Michael Jackson/Disney promo kids ***Wishing on a Star** - how could I forget that.

 

[klwn]

Some people will either never change their opinion or internally rationalize as to why they are right and never admit they are wrong. I know people who refuse to change even when something is literally black or white and being shown irrefutable proof with real world facts... They still cannot process logic or rationalize thought to change their opinion and or admit their mistake.

As far as Luke vs Rey, everything in the OT is implied through either good dialogue and storytelling, or through pacing and knowing the events are spread out. We KNOW Luke is a good pilot through many lines of dialogue and scenes mentioned here in previous posts. Rey recognized a ship and says she's flown a few times. A simple scene with Rey and Unkar Plutt while on Jakku with a few lines of dialogue about her piloting skills is all that's needed for the audience to KNOW shes a skilled pilot. We don't get that, we must simply "believe". Same goes for Luke on Dagobah and his training. We KNOW it takes place over time, again because of pacing and dialogue. We don't have a countdown over our heads as to knowing the events unfold in mere hours like TLJ. Same with Luke's change from the end of ESB to ROTJ. No one changes their confidence level over night, especially after being defeated in the way Luke was by Vader in ESB. He had to build confidence through his training over time, as we know months have gone by. And again through dialogue when Vader sees Luke's lightaber and comments with dialogue how he's grown. Rey has NONE of this. She is simply "Awoken".

And finally comparing Rey's skills with a staff to a lightsaber is a joke. There is NO room for error when practicing with and using a lightsaber. One small error and you lose a limb, a body part, or simply just die. A mistake with Rey's blunt staff and she has a bruise. How anyone can make such a simple comparison is completely beyond reasoning with.