Supergirl Premium Format Figure

[Niltusk]

Yup, too bad about the face. They hammered the rest of the sculpt, but as someone pointed out with the cape to hair inconsistencies, it almost looks like the head was done for a different body, then moved to this project.

 

[Armymedic1980]

The problem with the face is that resembles the face of a toy doll like a Mattel Barbie. Make a sculpt of what reasonably represents a young attractive girl.

 

[Mr. Green]

Fix the head sculpt or face the wrath of The Republic of Mr. Green!

 

[Asdf]

Just copy ArtGerm art... It will sell like nuts

 

[batsheva]

^ Please don't. No more manga-ish style for US/western characters. Powergirl and Batgirl has realistic face compared to Ivy, and IMHO it looks much better and fits the male PF better (Superman, Batman, Joker, etc). That's why I think Harley doesn't fit Joker very well, the style is different. The Joker has Bolland-ish style, very western, and Harley has that manga-ish style, sadly. If only her face looks like her Sideshow 1/6 figure, it will be a perfect fit, IMHO.

 

[dan350zr]

IMO, Harley has a more realistic face where the Joker has a pure comic book style face, that's why they don't really go together.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

If they could soften up Batgirl's Ronda Rousey original jaw then they can tweak this Supergirl's face to make it more widely appealing.

Power Girl was crucified for being too old when it was first shown. It looks perfectly fine from those last SDCC shots.

 

[comicbookguy]

The problem with the face is that resembles the face of a toy doll like a Mattel Barbie. Make a sculpt of what reasonably represents a young attractive girl.

Just copy ArtGerm art... It will sell like nuts

If they could soften up Batgirl's Ronda Rousey original jaw then they can tweak this Supergirl's face to make it more widely appealing.

Power Girl was crucified for being too old when it was first shown. It looks perfectly fine from those last SDCC shots.

I agree with all the above members. She can be done so much better and pretty looking. The Barbie doll face lol now I see this as well. The BG comment yes good thing ss fixed her up a bit to make her good as well. All these real faces are getting lots of bad reviews. I wished they would just stick to the comic style faces. Don't get me wrong if done right they are great. But mostly all gets the older mature alex Ross look to them. It's great artwork. Just not my cup of tea at all. I see many here also voices thier opinion about the older realistic look as well.

^ Please don't. No more manga-ish style for US/western characters. Powergirl and Batgirl has realistic face compared to Ivy, and IMHO it looks much better and fits the male PF better (Superman, Batman, Joker, etc). That's why I think Harley doesn't fit Joker very well, the style is different. The Joker has Bolland-ish style, very western, and Harley has that manga-ish style, sadly. If only her face looks like her Sideshow 1/6 figure, it will be a perfect fit, IMHO.

I must disagree, and agree. 100% manga I agree won't be great in a way. But comic style like artgerm, jim lee, silvestri, McFarlane, (cool cartoon style) Rob liefeld, etc is all very comic art style with all pretty faces. If it's sailor moon faces then that's manga.
On a side note ss can you please make us some sailor moon PF! I've been waiting on those forever now. Please!

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

If they could soften up Batgirl's Ronda Rousey original jaw then they can tweak this Supergirl's face to make it more widely appealing.

Power Girl was crucified for being too old when it was first shown. It looks perfectly fine from those last SDCC shots.

...What's wrong with Ronda's jaw...

Oh and since it was brought up...Go Rousey!

 

[batsheva]

IMO, Harley has a more realistic face where the Joker has a pure comic book style face, that's why they don't really go together.

There's nothing realistic with that Harley's face. Look at the proportions of the eyes, nose. It's not realistic at all, it shows the influences of manga ish style, because it's based on artgerm's art.

I must disagree, and agree. 100% manga I agree won't be great in a way. But comic style like artgerm, jim lee, silvestri, McFarlane, (cool cartoon style) Rob liefeld, etc is all very comic art style with all pretty faces. If it's sailor moon faces then that's manga.
On a side note ss can you please make us some sailor moon PF! I've been waiting on those forever now. Please!

Oh you can't put artgerm's manga-ish style along with Jim lee, Marc, and Todd's. Artgerm's style shows larger manga/hongkong-ish style influence than Jim, Marc, and Todd's. The other artist with manga-ish influence is Joe Mad, but at least Joe Mad has 50-50, balanced style of manga and US. Artgerm's style is too manga-ish (not completely manga like Sailor Moon of course, altough not all manga look like Sailor Moon, you can see "Monster", "Gantz" with completely different style than Sailor Moon, google em and you'll know what I mean). I just think that Artgerm's style doesnt't fit well with the realism of the PF.

It's the realism like the upcoming Red Sonja PF that works well with PF, IMHO. And Batgirl and Powergirl's face is at that level of realism, unlike Ivy and Harley, which is in the manga-ish style. It's inconsistent with the other PF, especially the male ones.

 

[Spidey976]

If they don't hit the Headsculpt out to the park so one is bound to lend a helping hand.

 

[comicbookguy]

There's nothing realistic with that Harley's face. Look at the proportions of the eyes, nose. It's not realistic at all, it shows the influences of manga ish style, because it's based on artgerm's art.



Oh you can't put artgerm's manga-ish style along with Jim lee, Marc, and Todd's. Artgerm's style shows larger manga/hongkong-ish style influence than Jim, Marc, and Todd's. The other artist with manga-ish influence is Joe Mad, but at least Joe Mad has 50-50, balanced style of manga and US. Artgerm's style is too manga-ish (not completely manga like Sailor Moon of course, altough not all manga look like Sailor Moon, you can see "Monster", "Gantz" with completely different style than Sailor Moon, google em and you'll know what I mean). I just think that Artgerm's style doesnt't fit well with the realism of the PF.

It's the realism like the upcoming Red Sonja PF that works well with PF, IMHO. And Batgirl and Powergirl's face is at that level of realism, unlike Ivy and Harley, which is in the manga-ish style. It's inconsistent with the other PF, especially the male ones.

I see manga as the big eyes like the bishoujo's. Art germ to me is just normal comic art. I love the Ivy and harley more so than the realistic faces. I'm more of a generic comic book face guy than the real people in costume faces. I say this but my favorite statue of all time is the real life face statue WW she's just that well sculpted. But yeah it's personal preference with all of us.

 

[batsheva]

^ Well, it's actually not as simple as that. If you're really into comic style drawing, there's plenty of style/drawing character. Artgerm's style is actually more into a mix of Japanese manga and Tiger Wong (Hongkong) comic style. IMHO for a PF, western style like Adam Hughes or Brian Bolland's style fits better. Just like what you said about the WW statue, the realistic face works better. It's just need to be well sculpted. If this Supergirl went to manga-ish face, it will just be a large sized bishoujo.

 

[devilof76]

I see nothing Asian styled about Harley or Ivy. There is an exaggeration in proportions, but it doesn't compare with anything I've ever seen in manga or anime. The disproportionality follows western cartoon styling, if anything.

 

[batsheva]

^ it's based on artgerm's style, which is influenced by asian style a lot. Just compare the face to the SDCC Red Sonja's face. If you can't tell the style differences, then I can't explain anything else/more to you.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

^ it's based on artgerm's style, which is influenced by asian style a lot. Just compare the face to the SDCC Red Sonja's face. If you can't tell the style differences, then I can't explain anything else/more to you.

By the same token so it Batgirl

Yet the facial features on Batgirl look nothing like Artgerm's original sketch, and I do not think Harley's face really does either. Since both are based on art by Artgerm but sculpted by an artist in their own right each sculptor decides how much influence they take from the original artists work. Much like how every other PF in the line has been done. We can see individual influences but we can't say it was only one individal influence that makes up the entire piece because the Sculptor will decide how much he allows of the original into the actual work.

 

[batsheva]

^ That is true. And IMHO, Sideshow noticed that and making changes, perhaps they learned from Harley PF, when transforming Artgerm's exact style to realism (to match Joker's more realistic face) didn't turn out smoothly, and starting from Catwoman PF, they did followed artgerm's concept, but started to add more level of realism to the face sculpt. Just compare Catwoman or Wonder Woman and Ivy PF. It looks like they are not in the same series due to the style differences. The level of realism on the face is getting better and better now. Ivy looks more cartoony, while Catwoman, WW and the newer PF onwards looks more real.

 

[filip629]

I see nothing Asian styled about Harley or Ivy. There is an exaggeration in proportions, but it doesn't compare with anything I've ever seen in manga or anime. The disproportionality follows western cartoon styling, if anything.

I'm with you and Josh on this topic. Harley, Ivy, Catwoman, and Batgirl all look great to me and I see nothing Asian styled about them. The sculptors that worked on them certainly didn't make them in manga or anime style. If they did, I wouldn't have bought any of them since I'm not a fan of manga or anime at all. The sculptors took the original art source and definitely gave all the portraits a very western look IMO. They all turned out great.

 

[filip629]

^ That is true. And IMHO, Sideshow noticed that and making changes, starting from Catwoman PF, they did followed artgerm's concept, but started to add more level of realism to the face sculpt. Just compare Catwoman and Ivy PF. It looks like they are not in the same series. The level of realism on the face is getting better and better now. Ivy looks more cartoony, while Catwoman onwards looks more real.

I think that they all turned out fantastic. QC on the original Ivy was the only issue I could see with that PF. Either way, I'm very happy with the way all the portraits turned out on those 4 PFs. IMO, they all look gorgeous.

 

[batsheva]

Well, that's just my opinion.