Alex Logan
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I'd be careful who you're calling retards. How long has is been since you read a DC comic?
First and foremost we are talking about the current Superman (2008) and the current Hulk (2008). We are weighing the facts of the current versions of these two characters.
Superman today is far superior in power compared to the Superman who battled Doomsday. He works at a much higher level than Hulk, his recent feats prove that.
Superman’s Powers:
Speed - Superman is able to move at 99% the speed of light within earth's atmosphere. He's been shown faster in outer space.
Heat Vision – Superman’s heat vision is as hot as the core of a star.
Strength – Here are Superman's high end feats:
1. Atomizing Earth 2 as the collateral damage of hitting, and being hit by, Kal-L; that is, the planet received no hit, but was simply destroyed as a collateral effect of a single punch on the two combatants' bodies. (Superman Infinite Crisis TPB)
2. Shattering the boundaries of space and time by way of his fight against Kal-L; that is, hitting each other so hard that: 1) Superman and Kal-L actually switch into the past, present and future of each other's lives; 2) Elseworld versions of themselves actually manifested in time and space. (Superman Infinite Crisis TPB)
3. Holding a black hole in one hand; then producing sufficient static electricity (via rubbing his hands) for Green Lantern to corral into a temporary containment force; then actually throwing the black hole into another black hole. (JLA 81 or 82)
(Incidentally black holes are the collapsed remains of super-massive stars that have, at minimum, the mass of at least 30 of our Sun, according to modern science.)
4. Superman reverses the vibratory pattern of an entire alternate Earth; does so from high orbit; that is, not even touching the planet. (Adventures of Superman Cannibal Planet)
5. Superman and Kal-L, who came up equal in their fight, manhandle Superboy Prime across galaxies and force him through Krypton's Sun. Superboy Prime; it was said and shown, was strong enough to move planets as easily as someone moves chess pieces. (Infinite Crisis)
6. Superman splitting "a small Saturnian moon" in Lex 2000; or nearly knocking the Moon out of orbit merely by pounding on it (as one would pound on a table) while sick from Kryptonite poisoning (Til Death Do Us Part TPB).
7. When Superman and Flash last raced, Flash explained that if Superman stopped dead in his tracks, it would destroy everything between the Flash's city and Moscow. That's a far larger tract of land than the Rockies -- it's an immense chunk of the planet.
8. Superman broke through a dome powerful enough to contain a nuclear blast with a stray backhand when he fought the Eradicator.
9. Superman also punched Bizarro through the planet, from Metropolis to China, in one hit.
10. Superman flew from Vega to Earth in seconds, or light years from a spaceship to the inside of a Sun Eater. He waded through Earth's assembled alien forces (J'onn, Powergirl, Kilowog, etc.) in a matter of panels. One shots Despero with heat vision, has his power depleted and is thrown through Earth and into its core and survives. He also survived a 700 light year anti-matter explosion with his powers depleted. (Action Comics, May 2007)
In addition, it should be noted that Imperiex (God's cosmic agent of universal creation and destruction), who possessed universe-level power (essentially he was the Big Bang), could not break out of Brainiac 13's containment field. Sun-dipped Superman could. Imperiex selected and possessed Superman to do it and Brainiac 13 pleaded with Superman not to do it. So, a sun-dipped Superman was powerful enough to break a cell that a Big Bang level force could not.
Now, Imperiex's Probes were not as powerful as Imperiex himself. Nevertheless, an entire army of "solar converted" Daxamites could not put a single dent into a Probe. Only Superman, Doomsday and Zod managed to destroy Probes with their bare hands -- the rest had to use magical artifacts (Wonder Woman's shield and lasso, the Trident of Poseidon) or advanced tech (B-13 based nuclear tanks)
Also, Superman didn't just move Warworld while sun-dipped, he moved Warworld against the "full counter thrusters" of the Imperiex Power. Prior to absorbing the Imperiex Power, Warworld was powerful enough to travel across the universe, with the Imperiex Power; Warworld could destroy, recreate and control the universe.
At the close of the story, we saw just how powerful the force that was Brainiac 13's "blood" actually was: The power is released adjacent to the Big Bang, creating a parallel universe that blended with the Big Bang's universe. As great as that power was, it could not outmuscle the sun-dipped Superman, much less put down or destroy the augmented Man of Steel.
In short a sun-dipped Superman was more powerful than a being that had the power of creating and destroying a Universe. (Our Worlds at War)
What is World War Hulk going to do against that? Nothing but get his ass kicked across the multiverse.
The End.
That is really a bad case of DC - Dumb Comics
