Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[Python]

Again, I'm liking the T-1000 the most out of anything I've seen from this movie and yet he probably has a tiny role and is probably offed in short time.

I'm curious if they try to explain why there is now also a T-1000 in 1984 with apparently the same mission as the original T-800.

Maybe the movie skips ahead to when the T-1000 does appear, although saying that, none of them appear to age in the trailers so maybe not.. Beats me. The T-1000 is a weird one, some of his seems like where he's up against the wall look great! But others are outright goofy looking.

 

[Wor-Gar]

The only positive I see here is that this movie won't bomb as big as Tomorrowland. So we got that in tha bag.

 

[karamazov80]

Why is that sad? The whole point in seeing a movie is to be entertained. Anyone expecting a true T1/T2 follow up is sure to be disappointed.

Because it sucks when people are entertained. I hate joy personally.

Well the Arnie-model in T3 was supposedly more advanced and was actually a T-850. That might explain how he was apparently stronger and also more resistant to the crushing force of a big giant blast-door coming down on him. However the movie itself doesn't provide this information, it came from the novel I think. So based on the movie alone it just feels really inconsistent that the Terminator is so heavy that he can't be lifted by those firemen, that he caves in the roof of a car when he jumps on it and that he isn't crushed by that blast door. Then we get to the Salvation version which was just called a T-800 again, and named as such in the movie, and it survived just about everything thrown at it which previously destroyed other T-800s, no in-movie explanation given as to how this could be the case. So they've just got it totally arseways. I don't think they give a crap about being consistent anymore.

Agreed.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm curious if they try to explain why there is now also a T-1000 in 1984 with apparently the same mission as the original T-800.

Obviously Pops appears and kills the T-800, which alters the timeline, so the machines send a T-1000 back to kill Sarah Connor after this is discovered, and Pops, Reese, and Sarah kill him too, so the machines send back the T-John Connor to kill Sarah Connor, and the movie explores whether he can be killed or not. The sequel will go to the next step, and send back the woman Terminator from T3, alongside a T-600 and an evil Robocop to kill Sarah after all the other guys fail. In response, Pops is joined by a suped up Johnny 5 and possibly HAL 9000.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

So time changes around them?

To be consistent they'd survive and alter the future and then it'd all start over again only this time skynet would know the T800 failed and send back the T1000 earlir

After all if Skynet knew everytime a terminator failed when it happened they'd send an endless stream of them until they finally won. But they can't know until time runs it's course.

Add to that how would Skynet know that the Skynet of an alternate timeline sent the T800 back. Only way they could know if from the history As told by the humans

 

[DiFabio]

It's all messed up. That's why it all should have ended once Sarah, John, the Terminator and Dyson preventing Judgment Day by destroying every single piece that would lead to the creation of Skynet.


The only film/story left to tell would be the Future war that would inevitably led to what happened in T1 and T2, i.e. Los Angeles in the 2020s, nuclear winters, body/rubble littered trenches, underground shelters, and man vs. machine.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm pushing my son on a swing right now waiting for it.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Waiting for this?

 

[jye4ever]

For Linda Hamilton's twin to yell at me.

 

[GasparZizou]

I hadn't seen that. It makes the good point that for all the slagging T2 gets for ''pussifying'' the T-800 it still has some pretty adult content the likes of which you will not see in Terminator Genisys.

Good points about the detailed files on human anatomy and yet not knowing about crying or smiling. Not so good the last point about the arm he leaves behind in the gears - they wouldn't be able to do **** with that, we can make a mechanical arm easily. The chip was the most important thing

I think T2 is heavier on the adult content than T1, save for the Terminator being a "pet" this time, which was a perfect change of pace from the 1st one.

I don't think the "detail files on human anatomy" is contradictory, I don't think the T-800 is ignorant on how crying or smiling work mechanically speaking, rather he's oblivious to the behavioral/emotional part of it, I believe he's aware smiling involves whatever number of facial muscles, yet he doesn't know why to smile, at least at first, the same for crying.

Either that or his detailed files don't include crying, there's no reason he should include that, as a Terminator he needs to know the vulnerable parts of the body, arteries, pressure points, joints, etc etc, as a protector he should know virtually the same for the sake of say; medical attention, I don't see lacrimal glands playing a part in that at all.

You're right about the arm too.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I don't see lacrimal glands playing a part in that at all.
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Excessive crying from watching your pet melting could cause dehydration which leads to sudden death, and as a result the end of humanity But don't quote me on that, because I am not a doctor.

 

[Sundowner]

Because it sucks when people are entertained. I hate joy personally.

Me too

Obviously Pops appears and kills the T-800, which alters the timeline, so the machines send a T-1000 back to kill Sarah Connor after this is discovered, and Pops, Reese, and Sarah kill him too, so the machines send back the T-John Connor to kill Sarah Connor, and the movie explores whether he can be killed or not. The sequel will go to the next step, and send back the woman Terminator from T3, alongside a T-600 and an evil Robocop to kill Sarah after all the other guys fail. In response, Pops is joined by a suped up Johnny 5 and possibly HAL 9000.

Did you just spoil the entire movie?

 

[BuGz]

New pic. T800

 

[Sundowner]

hmmm is it me or the eyes look way bigger than they should?

 

[GasparZizou]

Excessive crying from watching your pet melting could cause dehydration which leads to sudden death, and as a result the end of humanity But don't quote me on that, because I am not a doctor.

I never thought of that, dehydration by tears, good catch.

 

[Wor-Gar]

T-800 is Donald Trump?

 

[Sundowner]

 

[Khev]

Saw The Terminator on the big screen tonight. It was surreal. Pristine picture quality, pumping sound, never better. I'll always have to credit Genisys for getting to see the classic film in such a state of the art auditorium.

It was definitely a new sound mix though. Arnold's pistol when he shot the first Sarah sounded totally different and there were a couple other little audio tweaks throughout the film. A very pronounced "classic ricochet" sound when he gets hit while shorting out the power at the police station was absent and replaced by another sound instead.

Seeing the police shootout on a massive silver screen....and that perfectly designed super creepy Endo. Wow, just wow.

Never noticed how gory the marks on Reese's hand from Sarah's bite were until seeing it on the big screen.

When the guy says "a storm's comin" and Sarah says "I know" at the end it kind of felt like she was referring to next week's release of Terminator Genisys. The original got one last theatrical release and now the **** storm is coming.

 

[Matt S]

Saw The Terminator on the big screen tonight. It was surreal. Pristine picture quality, pumping sound, never better. I'll always have to credit Genisys for getting to see the classic film in such a state of the art auditorium.

It was definitely a new sound mix though. Arnold's pistol when he shot the first Sarah sounded totally different and there were a couple other little audio tweaks throughout the film. A very pronounced "classic ricochet" sound when he gets hit while shorting out the power at the police station was absent and replaced by another sound instead.

Seeing the police shootout on a massive silver screen....and that perfectly designed super creepy Endo. Wow, just wow.

Never noticed how gory the marks on Reese's hand from Sarah's bite were until seeing it on the big screen.

When the guy says "a storm's comin" and Sarah says "I know" at the end it kind of felt like she was referring to next week's release of Terminator Genisys. The original got one last theatrical release and now the **** storm is coming.

I am super jealous....awesome

 

[EndoSickness]

I am super jealous....awesome

Same here.

The Terminator was out in germany too, but it was too far away and I didn´t have the time.

When my home cinema is done, first thing: The Terminator.