Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)
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You keep sayin' "haters, hates everything" ect, like if that's the case. If someone else's opinion touches you on such a personal level that you can't resist posting a spiteful comment about that opinion time and time again... Then there's just a little tiny possibility that the problem is in your perception.
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That was my mentality going in too. I was expecting nothing. I didn't hate the movie, but I haven't rewatched it since, and I haven't felt the need to.
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I'll watch it again after a couple days to see if it holds up to multiple viewings. As bad as parts of it were, it could have been worse. I watched Transformers Age of Extinction the other day, and it was the epitome of a complete piece of **** film. Maybe that's why Genisys didn't bother me so much. 
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I enjoyed all Transformers movies more than Genisys, with the exception of the second one.
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The reason this gets so much hate when Jurassic World gets a pass is the same reason for Star Trek. You want to make a sequel, go your own way like Jurassic World did and leave Alan Grant and that stuff that originally happened alone. The stuff everyone fell in love with that made you a success and gave you a chance at said sequel/whatever should be off limits. You want to reboot, do a hard reboot. But when you simply pretend that it exists in the same universe, but say that everything that happened and that millions of people grew up with no longer exists and has been actively erased, you are obviously in for a plethora of hatred.
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Just saw this last night. It was entertaining for an action movie, but it confused the hell out of me as far as following the timeline. I tried to understand it, but gave up about halfway through. It scares me if they are thinking of future sequels. This series is so out-of-whack it's beyond confusing.
I didn't think it was as bad as some armchair directors have said it is. It's nowhere near T1 or T2 IMO but it did it's job by keeping me entertained.
It's not the worst thing I've seen, and was better than the last two films at least. But when they leave 1984, is when I didn't really care anymore about where the story went.
There's no objective reason.
While "Jerkassic Whorld" was bad on every possible level, TG had interesting ideas and good scenes.
Both films are really bad but at least TG tried something and was partially entertaining.
I'd be curious how this movie would be received had they not gone with the alternate timeline concept. I get that it was probably their best idea to have an "old" Terminator in the mix to justify Arnie's appearance, but I feel like that's the main thing throwing it off for people.
I will say though, each sequel seems to put a new twist on Skynet's person which create's huge plotholes. In Salvation, even though the original timeline was changed by the events of T2, Skynet was fully aware of all past attempts to kill Connor? There would be no record of that, it would have no way of knowing, only we know it as the audience.
Same thing in TG, Skynet remembers events from the future? Impossible.
These moments can easily be overlooked but are a bit disappointing in the sense, with the talk of Skynet in T1 and T2, if we're going to see it become a character, have it's abilities and all makes sense.
I will say though, each sequel seems to put a new twist on Skynet's person which create's huge plotholes. In Salvation, even though the original timeline was changed by the events of T2, Skynet was fully aware of all past attempts to kill Connor? There would be no record of that, it would have no way of knowing, only we know it as the audience.
Same thing in TG, Skynet remembers events from the future? Impossible.
These moments can easily be overlooked but are a bit disappointing in the sense, with the talk of Skynet in T1 and T2, if we're going to see it become a character, have it's abilities and all makes sense.
Watched it on blu-ray for the first time since seeing it twice in theaters. Still very enjoyable. Not a great movie but still a lot of fun. I think each segment has its value:
1. Future war: Awesome
2. 1984 sequences: Excellent from a "story cleverness" standpoint, great technical filmmaking in matching the cinematography and editing style of the 1984 original. T-1000 is awesome though Reese and Sarah are at their weakest here. They just didn't seem comfortable giving their own characterization to such iconic scenes and it shows. The best players in the 1984 bit were the T-1000 and randomly enough the three punks. I know Bill Paxton's gang is burned into our brains but their acting was SO bad, lol. The new punks deliver those same lines so much more naturally.
3. 2017 sequences: This bit is the most generic and "MCU-ish" but at least Courtney and Clarke seem a lot more organic and at ease in their roles. Evil John is a good scene chewer and JK Simmons is great as always. The helicopter chase loses a lot of "cool" points for being CG but at least the 3D looks great when they're flying around and the shot of evil John being blown apart in the cockpit and then fusing together before it crashes is INSANELY cool looking. Arnold looks his best in the 2017 sequences as well because he's finally playing his "real" age and doesn't look overly made up or CG'd.
The whole "our smartphones will be connected to our TV's and computers via a talking OS, dun dun dun!" masterplan of Skynet is very uninspired. I mean we're pretty much already there so it seems weird that they couldn't think of anything "more" for the film. Back in 1984 an Aritificial Intelligence linked to a nuclear defense system was a pretty terrifying thought and nothing we were even close to. It would have been nice if Genisys had envisioned something that was pretty far out a ways. Also Guardian Arnold always addressing people by their first and last name is still kind of annoying.
I love the final showdown between Endo John and Arnold. Some REALLY great visuals and choreography. If you think about it a Time Displacement chamber is a pretty damn brilliant and iconically "Terminator" arena for a final showdown.
I'm not really hung up on how Genisys fits in with T1 and T2. T1 pretty much had its perfect circular ending and didn't need T2. T2 had a definitive "end" as well. I don't really watch any of them as specific parts of a grand saga, just individual installments that represent what a Terminator film would look like in any given year of release. And to that end Genisys still does a much better job of "representing" than T3 or Salvation, and is just plain fun as a 2015 popcorn movie.
Since there apparently will be no new films in this trilogy (or possibly any new Terminator films ever) then I think Genisys is still an adequate send off. "Skynet" does tell Reese at the end that his existence is inevitable and so an open ended finale (going by the mid credits sequence) is fine with me. There's always "a storm coming" and we just get to see difference variations of how things lead up to it.
1. Future war: Awesome
2. 1984 sequences: Excellent from a "story cleverness" standpoint, great technical filmmaking in matching the cinematography and editing style of the 1984 original. T-1000 is awesome though Reese and Sarah are at their weakest here. They just didn't seem comfortable giving their own characterization to such iconic scenes and it shows. The best players in the 1984 bit were the T-1000 and randomly enough the three punks. I know Bill Paxton's gang is burned into our brains but their acting was SO bad, lol. The new punks deliver those same lines so much more naturally.
3. 2017 sequences: This bit is the most generic and "MCU-ish" but at least Courtney and Clarke seem a lot more organic and at ease in their roles. Evil John is a good scene chewer and JK Simmons is great as always. The helicopter chase loses a lot of "cool" points for being CG but at least the 3D looks great when they're flying around and the shot of evil John being blown apart in the cockpit and then fusing together before it crashes is INSANELY cool looking. Arnold looks his best in the 2017 sequences as well because he's finally playing his "real" age and doesn't look overly made up or CG'd.
The whole "our smartphones will be connected to our TV's and computers via a talking OS, dun dun dun!" masterplan of Skynet is very uninspired. I mean we're pretty much already there so it seems weird that they couldn't think of anything "more" for the film. Back in 1984 an Aritificial Intelligence linked to a nuclear defense system was a pretty terrifying thought and nothing we were even close to. It would have been nice if Genisys had envisioned something that was pretty far out a ways. Also Guardian Arnold always addressing people by their first and last name is still kind of annoying.
I love the final showdown between Endo John and Arnold. Some REALLY great visuals and choreography. If you think about it a Time Displacement chamber is a pretty damn brilliant and iconically "Terminator" arena for a final showdown.
I'm not really hung up on how Genisys fits in with T1 and T2. T1 pretty much had its perfect circular ending and didn't need T2. T2 had a definitive "end" as well. I don't really watch any of them as specific parts of a grand saga, just individual installments that represent what a Terminator film would look like in any given year of release. And to that end Genisys still does a much better job of "representing" than T3 or Salvation, and is just plain fun as a 2015 popcorn movie.
Since there apparently will be no new films in this trilogy (or possibly any new Terminator films ever) then I think Genisys is still an adequate send off. "Skynet" does tell Reese at the end that his existence is inevitable and so an open ended finale (going by the mid credits sequence) is fine with me. There's always "a storm coming" and we just get to see difference variations of how things lead up to it.
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There was not one scene in Genisys I found entertaining or exciting, whereas Jurassic World had quite a few even though the overall film was pretty bad.
Genisys didn't try anything new, it was just a big, messy mish-mash of all the previous films with unfunny jokes and terrible dialogue. I couldn't even enjoy Arnold in it which is saying a lot.
Jurassic World is the first JP film to actually have a functional park, had lots of great dino action and designs, etc.
Genisys - 4/10
Jurassic World - 6/10
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Finally saw this last night, I enjoyed it. It was nice seeing Arnie back and kicking ass.
Sorry that I liked this movie. I know this is the second time apologizing, but I guess I really upset people when I said I liked it.
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Geeze, give your shovel a rest.
I loved JP movies, but JW was the exact same crap, again.
A park full of dinos
Man thinks he can contain them
Everything goes wrong
Dinos escape and kill people
Man wins at the end
Oh yea, a dude on a quad with raptors....AMAZEBALLS!!!
FYI, people have different tastes, and like different things. Crazy, huh?
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