Terminator Genisys (July 1st, 2015)

[Python]

Salvation was okay, but bad cgi ruins any movie, and that cgi Arnie was unforgivable.. I have no desire to watch it knowing that scene is in it. Genisys still has some iffy effects unfortunately, but they aren't on that level of terrible at least. It was enjoyable despite them..

 

[MaulFan]

I love Godzilla movies from the 50s and 60s, cheesy effects rarely impact enjoyment of a movie, I just critique the CGI, but I also appreciate well done CGI, most of the 84 Arnie work in Genisys is eerie real looking, but I'd say any other effects being lackluster is because of pouring a lot of resources into creating that.

 

[Python]

Different strokes for different folks, I didn't think the cgi Arnie was that good in Genisys either. It was much better than the mess it was in salvation, and it looks great in screen grabs. But in motion it still looks very fake to my eye which is distracting. I'm not sure what specific effects you mean from the 50s, but a good practical effect is pretty timeless, plenty of older movies look better to me than many modern cgi fests. I like it as a tool when it is used properly, but when used badly it totally kills a movie for me personally. The newest Tron is another good example. Heavy on cgi that is extremely well implemented and looks good mainly... And then you have the cgi Geoff Bridges that ruins it all by being awful.

 

[Jameson Rook]

 

[RIDDICK]

Oh, another thing I liked about the film is that it was a reboot from the beginning.
Like Evil Dead stuff - each one has its own origin story.
So the whole "timelines" joke is completely pointless.

 

[greygoose]

I only just watched Genisys this week. I actually thought it was a decent watch. I'm not a big Terminator fan though so I was just wanting to know what everyone's views towards the movie were. Was it the John Connor twist that tipped you over the edge or was there other stuff wrong?

 

[a-dev]

I only just watched Genisys this week. I actually thought it was a decent watch. I'm not a big Terminator fan though so I was just wanting to know what everyone's views towards the movie were. Was it the John Connor twist that tipped you over the edge or was the other stuff wrong?

I thought it was entertaining but I don't consider it canon. It's all a bit too silly, the more sequels you make the more you have to escalate everything and the further away from the original vision you go. T2 was as far as I think it stretched. And it was interesting once to see the other side of the coin where a Terminator was reprogrammed to work on the side of humans but I don't think we needed to see that again and again thereafter.

Some franchises can't manage more than one decent film, like Robocop. (I thought the reboot was OK, but Robocop in his original incarnation only had one good film) So maybe Terminator was fortunate to get two.

 

[RIDDICK]

I was very negative towards the T-John twist during marketing campaign.
My opinion did a complete 180 after watching the actual thing.

 

[Python]

My main complaint about that aspect is that they gave it away in the trailers... And even on the front cover!! No tact what so ever...

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Is that going to be a thing eventually with Hollywood?

Give it all away so people feel less inclined to indulge in piracy?

 

[Plastic Bateman]

I only just watched Genisys this week. I actually thought it was a decent watch. I'm not a big Terminator fan though so I was just wanting to know what everyone's views towards the movie were. Was it the John Connor twist that tipped you over the edge or was there other stuff wrong?

It's a franchise with a high bar as far as quality expectations: Terminator is a lean, vicious, well-oiled machine of a film, bleak and relentlessly brutal from start to finish - basically perfect in conception and execution despite its modest budget, a real work of art. Terminator 2 is still probably the best summer blockbuster popcorn movie ever made - it never quite matches the first for tone and grit but as a well-plotted, tightly-written thrill ride it delivers on every level, pushing both practical and digital effects to the absolute limit of what could be done at the time.

If Genisys had somehow been a Marvel Studios movie it probably wouldn't have been mauled as savagely by critics and the general public, and been compared to Taylor's own Thor: The Dark World. Unfortunately for it, the benchmark wasn't mediocrity but rather cinematic greatness - and it fell seriously short of the mark.

 

[olbertfrog]

My biggest gripe with the movie is (appart from being another mashup/reboot/best of/) its how it basically look like ****.
From the photography, to the cast, to the production design the movie look like a Bad Tv show.
For years i dreamed to see the future war victory, kyle being sent back in time.
I was drooling over the unused Storyboards and script for t2 original opening sequence.
Alas it looks like a big joke now... Makes me so sad...

 

[RIDDICK]

That's Alan Taylor and Kramer Morgenthau for you!

 

[Snake Plissken]

"We can erase the timeline of Claire Danes career."

EDIT: After watching all of this, it made me realize something... why not just send Connorminator back to 1965 and kill Sara, since they knew where she was if they ended up sending a T-1000 back there?

 

[Jameson Rook]

"We can erase the timeline of Claire Danes career."

EDIT: After watching all of this, it made me realize something... why not just send Connorminator back to 1965 and kill Sara, since they knew where she was if they ended up sending a T-1000 back there?

So many plot holes in the movie that it doesn't hold up. Like if there already was a T-800 and T-1000 hunting Sarah in the 70's, why would the events of 1984 (OG T-800) happened? Wouldn't the timeline be altered already?

How the flip is Sarah gonna give birth to John in 1985 when she and Reese are in 2017 now?

Why is the T-1000 easily fazed by bullets while the OG isn't? Doesn't that make the T-1000 a wimp?

Why doesn't the OG T-800 run away when ambushed by the old Arnold? In TSCC, Terminators are required to RUN AWAY from hostile cyborgs if they can't ascertain their motives, which makes sense since the mission comes first, not fighting fellow cyborgs.

How does Genesys plan to launch nukes with smartphone apps?

 

[EVILFACE]

Meh, all movies have flaws and plot holes.

Genisys wasn't T1 or T2 but it was still a fun ride.

 

[Snake Plissken]

So many plot holes in the movie that it doesn't hold up. Like if there already was a T-800 and T-1000 hunting Sarah in the 70's, why would the events of 1984 (OG T-800) happened? Wouldn't the timeline be altered already?

How the flip is Sarah gonna give birth to John in 1985 when she and Reese are in 2017 now?

Why is the T-1000 easily fazed by bullets while the OG isn't? Doesn't that make the T-1000 a wimp?

Why doesn't the OG T-800 run away when ambushed by the old Arnold? In TSCC, Terminators are required to RUN AWAY from hostile cyborgs if they can't ascertain their motives, which makes sense since the mission comes first, not fighting fellow cyborgs.

How does Genesys plan to launch nukes with smartphone apps?

Let's not forget, that since the 84 Arnold didn't get crushed in the hydraulic press in the Cyberdyne factory, Skynet should be negated from existence right there... but then according to Connor it became a "deleted timeline." Ugh.

 

[Jameson Rook]

Let's not forget, that since the 84 Arnold didn't get crushed in the hydraulic press in the Cyberdyne factory, Skynet should be negated from existence right there... but then according to Connor it became a "deleted timeline." Ugh.

Steve Jobs made Skynet in this movie.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Steve Jobs made Skynet in this movie.

I don't know why they chose an app as Genishyt. It's so hack. It should of been kept as an AI processor.

 

[RIDDICK]

T1 plot is a time paradox anyway.