The "All things TERMINATOR" thread.

[jye4ever]

The "All things TERMINATOR" thread.

Well then becareful because the other Irish could be lurking.

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[a-dev]

Holy crap that's freaking awesome, lol.

It was a toss up between that and Jim Carrey's Riddler locked up in Arkham going ''Iiii'mmmm Irish!!''

 

[Khev]

Re: The "All things TERMINATOR" thread.

Well then becareful because the other Irish could be lurking.

That explains all the Infinity Stones that just popped up in the For Sale section, lol.

 

[csutkakoma]

It looks like so far it is performing worse than T5. I hope that crap will fail big time.

 

[a-dev]

Well then becareful because the other Irish could be lurking.

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That explains all the Infinity Stones that just popped up in the For Sale section, lol.

I know now what you both did there

It looks like so far it is performing worse than T5. I hope that crap will fail big time.

Good. It sucks for Linda Hamilton's return but this 'passing the torch' 'new trilogy' nonsense needs to end.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

this 'passing the torch' 'new trilogy' nonsense needs to end.

Ghostbusters is passing the torch next year.

 

[Jameson Rook]

I managed to watch Dark Fate a couple of days ago and it was.. alright. It's nowhere near the levels of T1, T2 and TSCC but leaps and bounds ahead of the last 3 films. The main draw is the acting and I think the main cast deserves praise. I only recently noticed that there's a small movement against the film and I struggle to comprehend what's so offensive in the film. I remember being hugely upset by how bad the writing in Genysis was but this is not that at all. I guess the only two things I didn't liked was the twist with the T-800 and the utterly unremarkable score by Junkie XL that doesn't feel worthy of a franchise of this magnitude.

The closest I could compare this movie with is that it reminds me of the 2014 Robocop reboot, where it turned out neither a disaster nor anything remarkable. Overall I'd say it's a decent, harmless film.

 

[a-dev]

I managed to watch Dark Fate a couple of days ago and it was.. alright. It's nowhere near the levels of T1, T2 and TSCC but leaps and bounds ahead of the last 3 films. The main draw is the acting and I think the main cast deserves praise. I only recently noticed that there's a small movement against the film and I struggle to comprehend what's so offensive in the film. I remember being hugely upset by how bad the writing in Genysis was but this is not that at all. I guess the only two things I didn't liked was the twist with the T-800 and the utterly unremarkable score by Junkie XL that doesn't feel worthy of a franchise of this magnitude.

The closest I could compare this movie with is that it reminds me of the 2014 Robocop reboot, where it turned out neither a disaster nor anything remarkable. Overall I'd say it's a decent, harmless film.

Well it's offensive because no one ever watched that final emotional scene in T2 and had to think

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'wow, too bad John is going to be gunned down by another Terminator almost immediately after this'

until now. It retroactively ruins T2's ending. Heck it ruins T1 aswell. It was all pointless. The characters fought for nothing and achieved nothing.


That of course is if you accept Dark Fate as canon as Cameron apparently wants us to. We can just ignore him thankfully

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but it is surprising from Cameron considering his opinion of Alien 3 which did much the same thing. If he thinks it's different I'd love to know how the ****.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Some spoiler scenes video

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

It seems DF is doing what Genesis did with the theme (dududududun), playing it all the time in scenes that don't need it. No subtlety.

 

[onrina903]

Arnold's personal behind the scenes T1 pics, posted by himself on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/dni9j9/terminator_came_out_35_years_ago_here_are_some_of/
https://imgur.com/gallery/6l1IyVM

 

[Jameson Rook]

Well it's offensive because no one ever watched that final emotional scene in T2 and had to think

I see your point but it's not the first time the franchise did something of this magnitude. T3 killed Sarah off screen, TSCC implied she'll be dead soon and Genysis even went as far as erasing T1 and T2 out of its' new continuity (which I think is the worst offender in the history of the franchise). The franchise is pretty much a comic book multiverse right now with literally 5(!) separate contradicting stories that takes place after T2 with each of them claiming to be a sequel to it so I guess I went in the theaters with tempered expectations as long as they made good on the promise of Linda Hamilton kicking ass again, which she does.

Besides, we all know there will be another Terminator movie. There will also be another Marvel movie. Another Batman movie, another Star Wars movie, etc. Heck, they'll probably announce a Back to the Future remake soon with a time travelling iPhone that zaps you into the past when post selfies on Intsagram. I'm definitely not gonna waste my time getting triggered since unlike the Terminator. I don't have a power cell that lasts 120 years.

Arnold's personal behind the scenes T1 pics, posted by himself on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/dni9j9/terminator_came_out_35_years_ago_here_are_some_of/

That's awesome! I was about to repaint the Tech Noir Battle Damaged head and that's the perfect reference shot!

 

[jye4ever]

His punk jacket from 1 is hands down my favorite look from both movies.


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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The now infamous intro scene.

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[Khev]

How tacky to have a pinata drop down right in the middle of such a gut-wrenching scene, lol.

And just the fact that I deliberately clicked on that just a few days before the film's release really shows how little I care this time around.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He looked like a HT figures.

 

[a-dev]

I think that's a great scene!

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If, immediately after, you see Sarah Connor shooting awake in bed in ala Ripley in Aliens and thankfully it was just a nightmare. Otherwise, yeah, Khev used the right word - gutwrenching. Very disturbing. And I still think it ruins everything before and probably after it.

 

[Khev]

Hey Jim! What'd you think of Alien: Covenant??

"I thought that Alien: Covenant was a great ride. It was beautiful. I love Ridley's films, I love his filmmaking; I love the beauty of the photography. I love the visceral sense that you're that, that you're present. It's not a film that I would have made. I hope I'm not spoiling this for anybody, but I don't like films where you invest in a character and they get destroyed at the end. So, I would not have made that film."

But yeah that DF scene would have worked really well as a fake-out dream sequence, especially since it would have paralled Sarah's nuclear nightmares in T2.

 

[jye4ever]

Really surreal seeing that


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[a-dev]

I see your point but it's not the first time the franchise did something of this magnitude. T3 killed Sarah off screen, TSCC implied she'll be dead soon and Genysis even went as far as erasing T1 and T2 out of its' new continuity (which I think is the worst offender in the history of the franchise). The franchise is pretty much a comic book multiverse right now with literally 5(!) separate contradicting stories that takes place after T2 with each of them claiming to be a sequel to it so I guess I went in the theaters with tempered expectations as long as they made good on the promise of Linda Hamilton kicking ass again, which she does.

Besides, we all know there will be another Terminator movie. There will also be another Marvel movie. Another Batman movie, another Star Wars movie, etc. Heck, they'll probably announce a Back to the Future remake soon with a time travelling iPhone that zaps you into the past when post selfies on Intsagram. I'm definitely not gonna waste my time getting triggered since unlike the Terminator. I don't have a power cell that lasts 120 years.

I'll put all this in spoilers because people could read into what we're talking about even if we don't explicitly say it.

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You see, with T3, John had already been born. Sarah only had to be alive long enough to impart her knowledge, her wisdom, her contacts and experience to him. It actually wasn't majorly significant that T3 said she died. I don't think it negated or contradicted anything from the timelines of T1/T2. We were never told one way or another if Sarah Connor was still alive in 2029, correct me if I'm wrong. Not in the films anyway. So T3 saying she was dead was fair game once John himself was alive.

Fair enough about Genisys. By altering the timeline of T1 as it did it's reasonable to assume that T2 was altered aswell...I think? But as soon as they did that I simply knew not to take that movie seriously at all and I was able to have a good laugh at it. It was just a silly romp.


With Dark Fate, unfortunately, we have the creator of this franchise now officially putting his name to it and having a writing credit. That's the key difference as to why this feels so egregious. And it flies in the face of everything he himself has said in the past about Alien 3 and other movies.

I say all this only to explain why people are more pissed off by this than anything before.