The Amazing Spider-Man - OPEN SPOILERS NOW

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

For me my top 5 entertaining superhero related films go:

1. X-Men First Class
2. Amazing Spider-Man
3. Watchmen
4. Spider-Man 2
5. TDK

I hope this thread hasn't gotten to the point were ASM is being compared to TDK and Avengers.

There's no basis for comparison. Spider-Man is a teenage superhero who saves people, Avengers are a disfuntional team of alienbusters and batman a violent vigilante.

Different film types and genres almost. Apples and oranges.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I hope this thread hasn't gotten to the point were ASM is being compared to TDK and Avengers.

Spider-man fans should avoid those comparisons at all cost. Good movie ... but not even close.

SnakeDoc

 

[OSCORP]

I liked this movie more than Avengers, by a tad. But not as good as Superman The Movie. (still think that's the best Comic/Superhero movie) I am not a Batman fan so those films don't interest me as much. They are well made and interesting though, if i was a Batman fan i bet i'd love them.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Okay The Avengers final fight scene is something I can agree with, but TDK? Car chase scenes can't stand in place of 1 on 1 (or any type of physical) fights. Every man on man fight scene in a Batman film has been average since 1989.

I'd mostly agree. Batman has never faced a real physical threat in any of the Batman movies since '89. The movie never builds up to a fight ... it builds to a confrontation or a showdown, but not a brawl. The villians in those six movies don't want a brawl. They know they'd lose a brawl -- Joker even said so in the last movie.

That may change come Friday-after-next.

Spider-man often builds to a fight ... his villains are bigger and stronger than he is. Few of Batman's are. It is the nature of the characters that SM builds to a fight, and Batman is more of a chess match.

SnakeDoc

 

[greygoose]

There's no basis for comparison. Spider-Man is a teenage superhero who saves people, Avengers are a disfuntional team of alienbusters and batman a violent vigilante.

Different film types and genres almost. Apples and oranges.

It's very Marvel vs more Marvel vs DC on here though.

 

[Bullseye]

Spider-man fans should avoid those comparisons at all cost. Good movie ... but not even close.

SnakeDoc

Out of curiosity why? I personally enjoyed it more than both Avengers and TDK. That is not to say i did not enjoy both of them. Why is it do difficult for Bat fans to accept Spidey fans prefer a Spidey film to the TDK.

 

[Deckard]

I still basically see Avengers as Independance Day 2. I liked it but it's nothing special in terms of it's simple and pretty goofy plot. Big budget ensemble cast comes togeather to save the world from Aliens by destroying the mothership and rendering all the little ones helpless. Happened well before Ep.1 but people don't like to admit it.

 

[Snadinator]

I liked the movie but it was very uncessary and in many ways, was the same story as the original Sam Reimy and Tobery Mcguire film.

I think they should have just continued the existing series. So what if the actors were different?

I mean where was the Daily Bugle? Where was J Jonah Jameson? I didn't care for how Ben died. The original film with Tobey Mcguire was much more faithful to that end and how Spider-Man develops his costume.

 

[Niltusk]

I also think it might be Mysterio just because of how he appeared and disappeared so quickly. Will be awesome if he is the next Villain

Mysterio was one of my favorite comic villains back in the day, sadly if they did use him, I think he'd come out unrecognizable by the time he was "hollywood" remade.

 

[Snadinator]

Out of curiosity why? I personally enjoyed it more than both Avengers and TDK. That is not to say i did not enjoy both of them. Why is it do difficult for Bat fans to accept Spidey fans prefer a Spidey film to the TDK.

I am first and foremost a Marvel fan over DC any day but even I know that TDK was a far better film then this.

 

[OSCORP]

I don't get the people who keep complaining about J. Jonah Jameson. Yeah he's awesome, can't he wait till the next movie? Must we have everything the last films had in the first? I'm almost surprised no one is _____ing Norman Osbourne was only mentioned.

I am first and foremost a Marvel fan over DC any day but even I know that TDK was a far better film then this.

IF you're into that sort of thing.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Out of curiosity why? I personally enjoyed it more than both Avengers and TDK. That is not to say i did not enjoy both of them. Why is it do difficult for Bat fans to accept Spidey fans prefer a Spidey film to the TDK.

It isn't difficult to accept that you prefer it. It just isn't a better movie. There's no accounting for taste.

Avengers was the perfect superhero popcorn movie. It was lighthearted in all the right places, and all the right doses. Doesn't take it self too seriously, but seriously enough that it doesn't make a mockery of itself. Struck a good balance between competing headlining characters. Compelling plot. Convincing villain. Spectacular fight scenes. Wasn't a rehash. Probably the best pure superhero movie out there.

The Dark Knight does take it self seriously, from top-to-bottom ... sometimes to a fault. But, so does Batman, so it makes sense. To call the villains compelling would be an understatement -- Ledger won an Oscar for his Joker performance. I would rank it among the great movies, not just superhero movies. My wife, my mother, my sister -- three people that couldn't care less about superhero movies -- raved about The Dark Knight. It was a great movie, a great superhero movie, a great noir crime drama.

ASM was good enough. It kept my interest, had some good fight scenes. But, it all felt too familiar -- and some of the story was told better the first time around. Garfield was good -- though the comparison to Christensens Anakin Skywalker in AOTC is apt. I wouldn't say he was inarguably better than Maguire. Connors wasn't as menacing or compelling as Loki -- much less Joker and Two Face. It had some good stuff, and was, in some ways, better than Raimi's SM ... but, not in all ways.

I understand that SM fans will love it. Most superhero movie fans will like it a lot. For most non-superhero-fans -- it will be enjoyable, and comparable to the first Raimi SM movie, but forgettable beyond that. Not so with Dark Knight or Avengers.

SnakeDoc

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Out of curiosity why? I personally enjoyed it more than both Avengers and TDK. That is not to say i did not enjoy both of them. Why is it do difficult for Bat fans to accept Spidey fans prefer a Spidey film to the TDK.

To batman and avengers fans there can never be another superhero film that could be better, no matter how good or possibly better it is. They have their best so everything that comes after mist be worse

It isn't difficult to accept that you prefer it. It just isn't a better movie. There's no accounting for taste.

Avengers was the perfect superhero popcorn movie. It was lighthearted in all the right places, and all the right doses. Doesn't take it self too seriously, but seriously enough that it doesn't make a mockery of itself. Struck a good balance between competing headlining characters. Compelling plot. Convincing villain. Probably the best pure superhero movie out there.

Change 'Avengers' to 'Amazing Spider-Man' and everything you've said still applies. It has all of those things you mentioned

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Went with some friend who hadn't seen TASM yet last night (3rd time for me) and they all loved it! We had fun watching it and discussing the movie afterwards!

The great thing about it was that none of them are into comics and only know of the Spidey cartoons & movies.

I'll take their word over any so called "professional" critic any day, anytime.

 

[Snadinator]

This movie is going to crash though. Dark Knight Rises is out in 11 days and it will end this film flat. I'm curious if ASM can even make a profit (its generally understood you need to double the production budget to make a profit). Also it has had the weakest opening week-end of any Spider-Man film. Generally films drop every week.

Hopefuly if they make a sequel it won't be at night all the time. Spider-Man should be prowling during the day. Also they need to do something about the mid-rift in the suit. A belt or something. It looks goofy as is.

 

[Deckard]

This movie is going to crash though. Dark Knight Rises is out in 11 days and it will end this film flat. I'm curious if ASM can even make a profit (its generally understood you need to double the production budget to make a profit).

Hopefuly if they make a sequel it won't be at night all the time. Spider-Man should be prowling during the day.

It's already made $340 million worldwide it's first week and 2 sequels are greenlit.

And it had actually had the largest tuesday opening ever.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Went with some friend who hadn't seen TASM yet last night (3rd time for me) and they all loved it! We had fun watching it and discussing the movie afterwards!

The great thing about it was that none of them are into comics and only know of the Spidey cartoons & movies.

I'll take their word over any so called "professional" critic any day, anytime.

 

[Calcifer]

Went with some friend who hadn't seen TASM yet last night (3rd time for me) and they all loved it! We had fun watching it and discussing the movie afterwards!

The great thing about it was that none of them are into comics and only know of the Spidey cartoons & movies.

I'll take their word over any so called "professional" critic any day, anytime.

Love the in depth discussions with friends after seeing a comic book movie!

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Change 'Avengers' to 'Amazing Spider-Man' and everything you've said still applies. It has all of those things you mentioned

I noticed you took out the "rehash" part of my original paragraph. Heh. That's an important part.

ASM wasn't as compelling as Avengers, and wasn't nearly as fresh. Avengers had a significantly better villain, and the unique interplay between competing superheroes were among the highlights of the movie.

ASM had none of that. There was some cool new stuff with the relationship with Capt. Stacy ... but, other than that, the conversations and relationships between the characters, the nature of the villain, the interplay with the aunt and uncle, and even the fight scenes were very similar to Raimi's SM.

SnakeDoc

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I liked this movie more than Avengers, by a tad. But not as good as Superman The Movie. (still think that's the best Comic/Superhero movie) I am not a Batman fan so those films don't interest me as much. They are well made and interesting though, if i was a Batman fan i bet i'd love them.

I enjoyed it the most out of most recent superhero films, it was dramatic (TDK) spectacular fight scenes (Avengers) and had lighthearted moments and superb acting from all involved too

It's already made $340 million worldwide it's first week and 2 sequels are greenlit.

also gotten around 90% positive reviews

I noticed you took out the "rehash" part of my original paragraph. Heh. That's an important part.

ASM wasn't as compelling as Avengers, and wasn't nearly as fresh. Avengers had a significantly better villain, and the unique interplay between competing superheroes were among the highlights of the movie.

ASM had none of that. There was some cool new stuff with the relationship with Capt. Stacy ... but, other than that, the conversations and relationships between the characters was VERY similar to Raimi's SM.

SnakeDoc

One could easily say Avengers is a rehash of Iron Man, Captain America, Thor & hulk though, same characers all involved.

Either way, you're comparing a team superhero movie to a solo movie they don't compare, i could state that Avengers doesn't have any of the webswinging, romance, family that ASM has and use that as negative points against Avengers, but it'd not a justifiable comparison

They're different kinds of films.