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Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

If your movie has a toy line full of little plastic figurines or a Kellogs promotion, it's far from brilliant.

"Oh but da Jokah is doing a social experiment with da teh two boats!" Who gives a flying ****. Villains have been putting Batman in uncomfortable positions where he has to make hard decisions for over 5 decades and you didn't see people writing case studies about it.





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Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

the guy is a genius

A genius who removed everything poignant and meaningful in TIH during post (locking out Leterrier and Norton from the editing room) and moved up the bull**** Tony Stark stinger to before the credits.

A genius who cockblocked Theroux's Demon in a Bottle IM2 draft in favor of the horse**** that film ended up being (leading to Favreau's exit as director).

A genius who drove away Terence Howard.

A genius who rejected J. Michael Straczynski's brilliant Braveheart-esque Thor draft (which had Thor arriving on Midgard in the final scene only) to instead greenlight the absurdly safe and light story we ended up getting. Straczynski obviously quit when his script was rejected.

A genius who drove away Edward Norton.

A genius who in an effort to appease the Asian market turned The Mandarin into a ****ing joke.

A genius who drove away Patty Jenkins [during pre-pro].

A genius who pushed for more Kat Dennings in Thor: The Dark World against Alan Taylor's wishes (who later publicly disowned the movie).

A genius who drove away Edgar Wright [a week before principal photography] by rewriting Ant-Man into the safe crapola it ended up being.

A genius who drove away Joss Whedon.

A genius who drove away Ava DuVernay.

A genius who pushed for more comedy in Doctor Strange, basically destroying that poor movie.

Some genius.
 
Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

A genius who removed everything poignant and meaningful in TIH during post (locking out Leterrier and Norton from the editing room) and moved up the bull**** Tony Stark stinger to before the credits.

A genius who cockblocked Theroux's Demon in a Bottle IM2 draft in favor of the horse**** that film ended up being (leading to Favreau's exit as director).

A genius who drove away Terence Howard.

A genius who rejected J. Michael Straczynski's brilliant Braveheart-esque Thor draft (which had Thor arriving on Midgard in the final scene only) to instead greenlight the absurdly safe and light story we ended up getting. Straczynski obviously quit when his script was rejected.

A genius who drove away Edward Norton.

A genius who in an effort to appease the Asian market turned The Mandarin into a ****ing joke.

A genius who drove away Patty Jenkins [during pre-pro].

A genius who pushed for more Kat Dennings in Thor: The Dark World against Alan Taylor's wishes (who later publicly disowned the movie).

A genius who drove away Edgar Wright [a week before principal photography] by rewriting Ant-Man into the safe crapola it ended up being.

A genius who drove away Joss Whedon.

A genius who drove away Ava DuVernay.

A genius who pushed for more comedy in Doctor Strange, basically destroying that poor movie.

Some genius.

All those details have a name, Hollywood.

Deals are made and broken every second in Hollywood.

Writers, actors. directors and scripts are constantly being attached and removed so why would Marvel studios be any different.

Go research some of your favorite movies to see the amount of bts drama attached to them.

No Hollywood movie is exempt.

Have you ever read the rules related to script creation and attachment for the studios, the process that is involved, how many hands are in the cookie jar, the legality of ownership, how wacky the concept is of how scripts are even created.

Yeah Favreau hates Marvel and Disney so much that's why he was seen hanging out with Feige 3 weeks ago lol.

Hollywood, **** happens.

I've got news for you, the Norton cut of TIH wasn't going to win any awards.

Demon in a bottle...yawn...no superhero movie will be just like their comicbooks, don't we know this already.

Ohhh Stark drinks..so mature and serious, I feel like an intellect already.

But yet Feige is singled out as the destroyer of art, ummm ok lol.

Thank the maker they didn't go with the original lobster monster they started filming with in Predator just so they didn't hurt anyones feelings. :lol

And watch out calling Ant-Man forgettable fluff, you saw what happened to Snyder lol.

Listen, there's no reason to continue this boring tug of war, you're the super intellect here who knows true art and the MCU fans are the brain dead morons with low standards, we're good. :lol

Poor Ink, someone should break the news to him that he's a few cards short of a deck lol.
 
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Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

TDK fools you into thinking you're an intellect for liking it. :lol

Then you walk around all snobby thinking fans who like the MCU are cavemen.

For me as a fan who loves the superhero elements of the MCU I can also still appreciate the grounded qualities from BB/TDK.


Very true but the DC movies are still better than that Marvel popcorn crap( and i love the Marvel crap just as much as anyone)
 
Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

There's definately value to what you get out of BB/TDK but that MCU "poopcorn stuff" for me is just as valuable.

I grew up in an era where it was impossible to experience Captain America kicking ass with his shield, Spiderman swinging thru Manhattan in 3D and a Hulk being larger than a human so yes I am VERY forgiving of the MCU.
 
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My take: The Nolan Bat-films were as close as you're going to get to "great" traditional comic movies, IMO. . .along with the Singer and Vaughn X-Men films :chase . MCU are "popcorn movies," but they work extremely well on that level. The current slate of WB movies are pitiful and not hardly worth watching.
 
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I'll be the middle man then. For me it depends on what characters and styles are used and in what way. Tho sometimes I may forgive a movie for bein' a mess if the good stuff is really good, like with "The Avengers" and BvS.
 
Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

My take: The Nolan Bat-films were as close as you're going to get to "great" traditional comic movies, IMO. . .along with the Singer and Vaughn X-Men films :chase . MCU are "popcorn movies," but they work extremely well on that level. The current slate of WB movies are pitiful and not hardly worth watching.

WB/DC is actually going backwards though from the higher quality of BB/TDK where as the MCU is for the most part improving upon their previous successes not regressing like WB did starting with TDKR.

Pretty soon WB should arrive at B&R. :lol
 
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But it hasn't been a slow, downward trend for WB. It's been largely crap since the mid-90s, with only the strong, but short upward tick in quality for the first two Nolan movies, and arguably, Watchmen. Other than that, we've had Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, BvS, Suicide Squad. . .on the bright side, things can't get much worse!
 
Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Yea who would have though Jonah Hex would get his hands on the Infinity Stones.
 
Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Damn I actually forgot Brolin was Thanos.
 
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