"The Dark Knight" 2008 !!!!!!!!!
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I just got back from seeing it for the second time, and I enjoyed it even more than the first, some nitpicks I had from the first viewing went away seeing it the second time. I really think reviewers should see a movie this intricate twice before really giving it a thorough breakdown, it's easy to miss some points because you're trying to absorb a lot the first time, some things might strike you as a negative when you see it because you haven't seen the whole movie and by the time you're done it still lingers as a negative but if you see it again, you may find it fits in the whole now. Already planning viewing 3 for Friday along with X-Files.
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I too have seen the latest Batman flick, and I agree with 90% of this thread. The part I have a problem with is all that comparison crap. Is this one better that that one stuff. Am I the only one that was delighted to see the original Batman movie? I think it's unfair to compare one persons take on Batman to another. Tim Burton had his ideas about Batman as does Chris Nolan. I think Bats 1 had a better Gotham City then BB and TDK. BB and TDK are grounded in reality, while Bats 1 had a more fantasy feel about it. Please don't get me wrong, I love TDK and BB, but I think there's room out there for more then one interpertation of Batman.
In the comic world there are several artists that have drawn Batman over the years, and put there own spin on it. You cann't say Jim Lee is a better artist that Neal Adams or Alex Ross. They are all great, but in there own way. You can have a favorite, but that doesn't mean the others are not good. The same holds true of the Batman movies. I don't think Tim Burton or even Joel Schumacher set out to make a poor movie. There's to much money at stake. And remember that with out Burton's Batman and that movie's huge box office there wouldn't have been enough interest to allow for a Batman franchise at all.
Just don't be to quick to point a finger and judge another artists presentation just because it dosen't please you. We will all have our favorites and thats how it should be.
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In the comic world there are several artists that have drawn Batman over the years, and put there own spin on it. You cann't say Jim Lee is a better artist that Neal Adams or Alex Ross. They are all great, but in there own way. You can have a favorite, but that doesn't mean the others are not good. The same holds true of the Batman movies. I don't think Tim Burton or even Joel Schumacher set out to make a poor movie. There's to much money at stake. And remember that with out Burton's Batman and that movie's huge box office there wouldn't have been enough interest to allow for a Batman franchise at all.
Just don't be to quick to point a finger and judge another artists presentation just because it dosen't please you. We will all have our favorites and thats how it should be.
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BadMoon
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I think it is ok to preference. Personally I liked all 4 of them. However, I prefer the more realistic style. However, Burtons movie were great in their own way. I don't think that makes one better than the other. After all movies are a form of art and are subjective.
Old Grandpa
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Well said BadMoon. That was the thought that I was trying to get across. Thanks.
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Kabukiman
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Saw it Friday morning on the IMAX, and all I can really say is: omfg 
I'm about to dive into all the posts I missed, but I assume everything has been nitpicked to death and it probably got a few "it's a good popcorn flick" from some peeps, just to be safe.
For me, I loved it, and it may very well be my favorite movie ever.
Bale's bat-voice still =
Oldman =
The best part of the whole thing is that every single one of my pre-conceptions (both good and bad) were shattered upon viewing. I always love when that happens.
I'm about to dive into all the posts I missed, but I assume everything has been nitpicked to death and it probably got a few "it's a good popcorn flick" from some peeps, just to be safe.
For me, I loved it, and it may very well be my favorite movie ever.
Bale's bat-voice still =
Oldman =
The best part of the whole thing is that every single one of my pre-conceptions (both good and bad) were shattered upon viewing. I always love when that happens.
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If tradition is anything after I buy this then they'll offer an official one. I bought the Christian Bale sculpt, then HT included one. I bought the Tony Stark sculpt and then HT included one. Someone is screwing with me in terms of customs.
Regardless of how one felt about it, TDK was hands down the smartest, most complex and nuanced story of all the comic book blockbusters this year. This, and the large amazingly talented cast, is what gives it the edge above the all rest.
If tradition is anything after I buy this then they'll offer an official one. I bought the Christian Bale sculpt, then HT included one. I bought the Tony Stark sculpt and then HT included one. Someone is screwing with me in terms of customs.
I think you're safe buying into custom Crane/Scarecrow. Unless HT has licenses to revisit Begins, it'd be a waste for them to make a figure based on TDK, as was his inclusion in the movie.
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I think you're wrong. I think that the Scarecrow WILL be done because it'll be a make up figure for the people who didn't get him during their Batman Begins run. Since the original suit only lasts for a few segments of this film one could say that this figure is a make up taking into account the issues with the first offering and the inclusion of a Bruce sculpt for the lack of a Bruce Wayne figure itself.
On a related note:
People are scalping TDK tickets!
https://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080721/121666569200.html
On a related note:
People are scalping TDK tickets!
https://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080721/121666569200.html
pjam
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I think you're right Mike, HT will prolly do a Scarecrow because he was in TDK, so they are covered, license-wise BUT
They will prolly include a sculpted head/mask. What Shawn at Sov is offering is a fabric/burlap mask to go over the Cillian headsculpt, pretty cool. He's also gonna do the distressed overcoat. So for me it can't be beat
You get all options.
Dr Crane in Business suit
Dr Crane with burlap mask
Scarecrow loose in the narrows/streets with ripped overcoat.
Depending on how HT markets the figure, I can see them doing a cloth mask, but if they keep tight to TDK for the licenses sake, then ya, it'll be sculpted for sure because there's little sense wanting the mask to come off a TDK version.
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Why? We see Cillian's face in the movie.
pjam
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I don't think so Sean. I think they'll follow that HT Figure with ax and Burlap mask -- I forget the character but the mask design will prolly be like that -- sculpted.
I love Scarecrow and really want a removeable mask figure and Shawn's Cillian sculpt is pretty amazing.
But you know Mike, as soon as I get this in my hands I'm sure we'll see a HT SC, if not sooner, maybe SDCC?
I love Scarecrow and really want a removeable mask figure and Shawn's Cillian sculpt is pretty amazing.
But you know Mike, as soon as I get this in my hands I'm sure we'll see a HT SC, if not sooner, maybe SDCC?
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I think with TDK it's the first comicbook movie where you can really discuss with any seriousness that there is an intellectual and emotional complexity.
Even the best such as Spidey 2 and X-Men 2 may have broad (and perhaps heavyhanded) themes, but they are presented in broad strokes with very little nuance. TDK not only explicates a theme but does it with multi-faceted characters and still delivers the action punches.
Even the best such as Spidey 2 and X-Men 2 may have broad (and perhaps heavyhanded) themes, but they are presented in broad strokes with very little nuance. TDK not only explicates a theme but does it with multi-faceted characters and still delivers the action punches.
Not long enough that if they have to make it solely to be a Crane from TDK that it'd be worth making a portrait of Cillian and a burlap mask, much cheaper for them to just do the mask permanently part of the face, they also won't have to worry about likeness rights or anything.
Agreed, if it totally adheres to TDK, if they try to do it so it could act as a Begins figure as well, I think they'll make it 2 pieces. If they can manage it, I think they should try to make it a multi-movie figure can the most out of the effort, that's if he's even done. Two-Face is more important to make for me, and now that I've seen TDK, I'd really like Gordon as well, and a Bruce Wayne.
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Agreed. I think we could get a cloth mask or as HT usually does in these pinches, they'll give us a Scarecrow HS and then a Crane HS and include a cloth mask in the accessories that really isn't designed to go over the head of the figure. This is what I envision for the Bank Robbery Joker. I would imagine Cillian Murphy's likeness rights wouldn't be hard to get and usually WB gets all likeness rights just in case.
I'm actually wondering if they'll show off anything at SDCC....I can see them offering up a Bank Robbery Joker, Gordon and Scarecrow though after the Batman and Jokers start shipping. Not to mention that I know a Two-Face figure is coming and I hope its a 2 in 1 with Harvey and Two-Face because I just don't see a Harvey figure alone being done.
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That is exactly why I didn't find it to be in the same league as Iron Man or Hell Boy. Don't get me wrong I said it before and I'll say it again that those are two good movies. They just didn't touch me on an emotional level. Give you an example. Not one time in Hell Boy or Iron Man did I feel any of the characters to be in real peril both physically and emotionally. You always knew it would be ok. In Batman you didn't know what was going to happen and you could sense strong feelings and internal emotional struggles. Example and yes this is a spoiler:
Like when Batman had to decide between the love of his life and Harvey dent.
I mean come on how much more emotional of a thing could one man go through?
I don't think we'll see them at SDCC, at least not for Batman. If memory is correct, HT's presence at SDCC is via Sideshow, not their own booth, unless they decide to come out this year, but if that's the case, no Batman at the show because no rights for Sideshow on them, which sucks but what can you do.
I do forsee that with the movie out now, we'll at least hear of a Two-Face figure in the coming months, I have zero doubts they're going to or have made one and just had to wait until the film's release to show it off.
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