The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[tomandshell]

There was some great stuff in this movie, some good stuff, and also a fair amount of styrofoam packing peanuts.

I'm looking at you, Matthew Modine or Catwoman's blonde friend or Blake's Asian partner or the corporate rival's creepy faced henchman or the special ops team leader or the congressman or the kidnapped bomb expert doctor or the priest from the orphanage or the cement mixer driver or the President of the United States, etc. Nolan is sidelining Oscar winners to give screentime to all of these tertiary characters, and at some point he just starts to dilute what he is trying to make richer.

 

[jye4ever]

There was some great stuff in this movie, some good stuff, and also a fair amount of styrofoam packing peanuts. I'm looking at you, Matthew Modine or Catwoman's blonde friend or Blake's Asian partner or the corporate rival's creepy faced henchman or the special ops team leader or the congressman or the kidnapped bomb expert doctor or the priest from the orphanage or the cement mixer driver or the President of the United States, etc. Nolan is sidelining Oscar winners to give screentime to all of these tertiary characters, and at some point he just starts to dilute what he is trying to make richer.

You are someone who's opinions I highly respect, for a long time now.

Dark Magic not to shabby either.

 

[tomandshell]

You have to admit, though, nothing raises the stakes like a school bus full of orphans.

I guess they deleted the scene with one of them tied to the train tracks, cutting back and forth between the train getting closer and the timer counting down on the bomb, temporarily stuck at the 11 minute mark for some reason.

 

[Nightwing]

Batman vs. Bane

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[turtlepower73]

we will be talking about this movie,analyzing it,breaking it down .right up too the next reboot. wondering if there will be justice league movie.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

we will be talking about this movie,analyzing it,breaking it down .right up too the next reboot. wondering if there will be justice league movie.

I fear the reboot.

 

[ZsaszSays]

I fear the reboot.

 

[Raymond F.]

I welcome it. I like these films, love parts of them very much, for what they are obviously the best comic book franchise films ever and some truely fine films, but the biggest problem is that this franchise accumulated too much and that it was all getting a little tired. This was a fitting end, not a brilliant end. I'm not so much dissappointed with it as I am not blown away with it, but with the hype, over saturation of the Nolan bat stuff especially on this board, and the over-inflated ness of the Nolan batman universe it was bound to not live up to any kind of major expectation.

Much like when the star wars prequels ended, albeit this is obviously a much finer series, I was happy to have it all over with. It felt tired, I'm happy it's all done.

I am actually really looking forward to a new take on batman and I hope to high hell if they do try and blunder together a JLA movie that that batman is nothing like the nolan batman as it will cheapen it.

When it reboots I'm actually quite interested in seeing more of an escape from realism, more fantasy like, similar to the Burtan films where certain reality is suspended and you feel like you are in a universe that you can't quite imagine existing but you enjoy watching.

 

[DarkMagic]

True true,

so put him in the same prison with no one else in there to fix his back.

Or was fixing his back part of Bane's hope plan?

Good point. Nah, I don't think Bane thought it out that completely that one of these guys would fix his back.

There was some great stuff in this movie, some good stuff, and also a fair amount of styrofoam packing peanuts.

I'm looking at you, Matthew Modine or Catwoman's blonde friend or Blake's Asian partner or the corporate rival's creepy faced henchman or the special ops team leader or the congressman or the kidnapped bomb expert doctor or the priest from the orphanage or the cement mixer driver or the President of the United States, etc. Nolan is sidelining Oscar winners to give screentime to all of these tertiary characters, and at some point he just starts to dilute what he is trying to make richer.

While I see the plot-specific points of these minor characters, I do agree with you here a bit. The purposes of at least some of them probably could have been consolidated or even eliminated for a tighter movie. We never see Blake riding around with his "partner" before he gets trapped underground, and the guy doesn't even have a speaking role! He coud've just been in contact with "one/some of the cops trapped down there".... it's totally unnecessary to let us know that he is specifically his partner since there is no connection established at all to make us invested in him.

You are someone who's opinions I highly respect, for a long time now.

Dark Magic not to shabby either.

Aww shucks. Ditto bro. C'mere you.

 

[wofford29]

You have to admit, though, nothing raises the stakes like a school bus full of orphans.

I guess they deleted the scene with one of them tied to the train tracks, cutting back and forth between the train getting closer and the timer counting down on the bomb, temporarily stuck at the 11 minute mark for some reason.

I guess you'd have enjoyed it more if he flew it up into an outer space portal and talked about falafel afterwards.

 

[jye4ever]

Good point. Nah, I don't think Bane thought it out that completely that one of these guys would fix his back.



While I see the plot-specific points of these minor characters, I do agree with you here a bit. The purposes of at least some of them probably could have been consolidated or even eliminated for a tighter movie. We never see Blake riding around with his "partner" before he gets trapped underground, and the guy doesn't even have a speaking role! He coud've just been in contact with "one/some of the cops trapped down there".... it's totally unnecessary to let us know that he is specifically his partner since there is no connection established at all to make us invested in him.



Aww shucks. Ditto bro. C'mere you.

 

[jnmx2000]

Just saw this for my second time. Gotta say alot of the stuff that bothered me before sat better with me with a second viewing. Still my least favorite of the three but a really good movie none the less. Will probably see it a third time, but in IMAX that time, haven't seen it in IMAX yet.

 

[ironwez20]

Saw the movie. It was good but defiantly not the best movie ever made. Who ever thought of Banes voice is just an idiot. That whole realistic Blake robin crap was ridiculous, Grayson is a great character why the hell would you replace him with that no name??
Movie was good but the dark knight was miles better. Sorry. Batman was ight, I like catwomen so much better actually. Still feel this movie would have been more epic if it included joker in some way.

 

[Frank]

Here's an oversimplification: The two successful franchises are like footraces.

Burton excelled at the sprint. Flashes of style and gravitas but runs out of track quickly. Amusing character vignettes narrow the scope of the story to a single lane.

Nolan is the endurance runner. Every move is strategic, each payoff like a carefully timed glass of water. The story is expansive allowing many players in to keep the pace and interact more fluidly.

But it ended like a relay though so who knows.

 

[jye4ever]

Blake is going to have all those orphaned boys to himself now.

 

[snoop101]

Just saw it tonight and thought it was a great movie. A great end to an awesome trilogy.

 

[BlitzOUT]

Just got back from my second viewing. So much better the second time. I udnerstood a whole lot more (including Banes voice) and it was overall a better movie experience.

Bumped up my score to 9.5/10. The best of the series I reckon.

 

[jye4ever]

Some parts of TDK are superior.

 

[tomandshell]

I guess you'd have enjoyed it more if he flew it up into an outer space portal and talked about falafel afterwards.

It depends on the tone of the two hours leading up to it.

 

[Nightwing]

Saw the movie. It was good but defiantly not the best movie ever made. Who ever thought of Banes voice is just an idiot. That whole realistic Blake robin crap was ridiculous, Grayson is a great character why the hell would you replace him with that no name??
Movie was good but the dark knight was miles better. Sorry. Batman was ight, I like catwomen so much better actually. Still feel this movie would have been more epic if it included joker in some way.

I strongly disliked how they COULD'VE put Grayson in it, yet decided not to. It seemed quite easy to place him in it.
First off, he already knew who Batman was. On top of that, they could've skipped his Robin years during the 8 year gap. Since Grayson was a cop in his latter years, why use a random character such as Robin John Blake ?

They could've been on non-speaking terms, and made their way back to being partners again (Batman and Nightwing) by the end of the movie.

If anything, the Nolan story could've continued with Batman still leaving, and Nightwing taking over as the protector of Gotham city, or he could've taken on the Batman mantle as he did in the comics.


Grayson has been around since April 1940 compared to Waynes May 1939. WTF is with this Robin John Blake BS.