The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[crows]

Wolverine= God

 

[thenammagazine]

Oh so Wolverine is literally invincible now. Wow way to go Marvel.

When was this a new concept? He's pretty much always been that way except for his whole post Magneto ripping the adamantium out of him until he got it back.

 

[Khev]

When was this a new concept?

Well since 1989 at least. He was fighting Tigershark underwater and T grabbed his wrists and swam to the bottom of the ocean and jammed his claws deep into the rock and Wolverine couldn't pull them out. He commented (through a thought balloon obviously) that his healing factor wouldn't prevent him from drowning and he started to black out until he went berserk and shredded the rocks in a panicked fury. It was kind of cool to see a villain actually come up with a way to kill him.

 

[batfan08]

I know we're talking comics here, and not movies, so you'll probably crucify me for this, but couldn't Batman take down Wolverine the same way Wolverine took down Lady Deathstrike (adamantium overload)?

 

[thenammagazine]

Well since 1989 at least. He was fighting Tigershark underwater and T grabbed his wrists and swam to the bottom of the ocean and jammed his claws deep into the rock and Wolverine couldn't pull them out. He commented (through a thought balloon obviously) that his healing factor wouldn't prevent him from drowning and he started to black out until he went berserk and shredded the rocks in a panicked fury. It was kind of cool to see a villain actually come up with a way to kill him.

I forget the story, but before that, he's essentially burned to just about skeletal remains, walks out of the fire and heals. If he can survive that, I'd imagine he'd eventually float to the surface and his healing factor would kick in again. In Old Man Logan, Hulk chomps him to pieces and eats him and Wolverine regenerates.

I know we're talking comics here, and not movies, so you'll probably crucify me for this, but couldn't Batman take down Wolverine the same way Wolverine took down Lady Deathstrike (adamantium overload)?

Nope. That movie took faaaaaaaar too many liberties. There's a reason Wolverine is the only one of his kind.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Wolverine could cut through the armor. Adamantium = Adamantium

 

[batfan08]

Wait, so Batman couldn't turn Wolverine into a giant paperweight by coating his soft tissue in adamantium, blocking it from actually functioning?

 

[IrishJedi]

Wolverine is way too much of a meathead to defeat Batman.

 

[intothevoid]

Meanwhile TDKR is now in the top 10 highest grossing films of all time (worldwide)

Now at $1,041 million

 

[thenammagazine]

Wait, so Batman couldn't turn Wolverine into a giant paperweight by coating his soft tissue in adamantium, blocking it from actually functioning?

How would he manage the injection process with something Wolverine's incapable of cutting through?

 

[thenammagazine]

Wolverine is way too much of a meathead to defeat Batman.

You mean, like, say, Bane? He does more than just chomp cigars and say "bub," but you already know this.

 

[wofford29]

Bane is smart.

 

[IrishJedi]

In the comics Bane isn't much of a meathead though.

 

[thenammagazine]

In the comics Bane isn't much of a meathead though.

Neither is Wolverine, he just doesn't give a **** half the time.

 

[Darth_Fatso]

Not really TDKR related but I though this was interesting

https://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/now/christian-bale-becomes-real-life-superhero-boy-cancer-173845610.html

 

[DarthBakura]

The suffocation theory is out. He's been all but burned to a crisp (there's no oxygen in an inferno), drowned and washed up on shore, even had his brain turned to jelly by Hulk during WWH (who admitted that he likely couldn't stop Wolvy with his healing factor). Batman would only prolong the inevitable using adamantium armor. And finding something that might slow Wolvy's healing factor is at best a gamble. In the end, the one thing that gives Wolverine the edge is that he will kill. Something Batman, can't and won't do.

Nam, I don't think anyone is debating that Wolverine couldn't tear Batman a new *******. I'm just pointing out that it would NOT go down like in the video. That Bats makes Christian Bale's Batman look like Sherlock-****ing Holmes.

For pete's sake, this Batman essentially just spots Wolverine, who is dressed up like a freakshow, so red flags should already be going off in his head. Then, he watches him for a moment and decides to strike, essentially losing the battle upon executing his sneak attack, due to having little to no advantage over Wolverine. He jumped the gun and got caught with his pants down.... something "Batman" is rarely ever caught doing.

Wolverine could cut through the armor. Adamantium = Adamantium

That theory only applies if you assume Wolverine has the strength with which to do so. And to that, you'd be incorrect. Sorry to pull out my nerd card, but stainless steel metal claws can't rip through stainless steel metal plating, unless excessive force, or velocity, is applied to the plating or it is stretched too thin. Adamantium doesn't magically cut through itself by that logic.

 

[thenammagazine]

Nam, I don't think anyone is debating that Wolverine couldn't tear Batman a new *******. I'm just pointing out that it would NOT go down like in the video. That Bats makes Christian Bale's Batman look like Sherlock-****ing Holmes.

For pete's sake, this Batman essentially just spots Wolverine, who is dressed up like a freakshow, so red flags should already be going off in his head. Then, he watches him for a moment and decides to strike, essentially losing the battle upon executing his sneak attack, due to having little to no advantage over Wolverine. He jumped the gun and got caught with his pants down.... something "Batman" is rarely ever caught doing.

What I got from the vid was that Batman was tailing him, realized Wolverine had picked up his scent (i.e. his cover was blown), and tried to capitalize off of the element of surprise. That's not at all out of character for Batman.

That theory only applies if you assume Wolverine has the strength with which to do so. And to that, you'd be incorrect. Sorry to pull out my nerd card, but stainless steel metal claws can't rip through stainless steel metal plating, unless excessive force, or velocity, is applied to the plating or it is stretched too thin. Adamantium doesn't magically cut through itself by that logic.

Given he cuts through metal all the time and his muscles are extremely familiar with moving around adamantium (his skeleton), I'm with Khev on this.

 

[batfan08]

How would he manage the injection process with something Wolverine's incapable of cutting through?

Couldn't he just throw Wolvie into a vat of the stuff while it's hot, and then cool it down, turning Wolverine into a glorified sculpture?

 

[thenammagazine]

Couldn't he just throw Wolvie into a vat of the stuff while it's hot, and then cool it down, turning Wolverine into a glorified sculpture?

How would that work? It'd likely flake off with his skin when he crawled out (which won't kill him). And aside from the movie, I haven't seen any vats of it in the comics. Plus, it's hard to mine and extremely hard to turn into a molten state. Batman would put it to better use making batarangs or armor.

 

[shockwave]

Nice.

But what was so great about 1982? ET and Poltergeist is all I remember. I also remember that summer being a disappointment after 5 years of amazing movies - Star Wars, Alien, Empire, Raiders.... and then E.T.???? Seemed sappy to me at the time much like Titanic did. And Avatar. 1984 or 1989 were much bigger, busier years packed with high expectations.

But I agree with the review of this year.

One word.............KHAN!