Bro what are you talking about? Who the hell talking about which movie is better? Can you even read? Fans raped Transformers to pieces. General movie guys loved it. It was crap but still. Same situation is with Rises. Fans raped to pieces, general movie guys, who have not much idea about Batman loved it. Who said TDKR was crap? I don't mate. But it was weak for me, especially as a Batman movie. The Dark Knight Returns comic adaptation or Under the Red Hood is 10 times better than Rises to be honest. But, especially Returns is from the greatest Batman comics of all time so.
I Don't know how you define 'Loved' or 'General movie guys'. But audience ratings for the Transformers films:
Transformers 1 - 7.2 on IMDB, 4.1/5 audience rating on RT
Transformers 2 - 5.9 on IMDB, 3.5/5 audience rating on RT
Transformers 3 - 6.3 on IMDB, 3.6/5 audience rating on RT
I'd say given those numbers, 'general movie guys' liked part 1, as opposed to loved, with 2 and 3 being very average.
And certainly the general audience loved TDKR. The equivalent figures for TDKR are:
8.7 on IMDB, 4.5/5 audience rating on RT
And only SOME Batman fans hate on TDKR. Most still love it.
Please prove to me otherwise. Hell even the well respected current Batman comic book writer Scott Snyder loves it. Another example is Kevin Smith who's been a lifelong Batman fanatic, he absolutely loves TDKR as well.
And wtf has being on SHH have to do with anything Ironwez? I'm as much a REAL Batman fan as anyone on these boards or anywhere. I started reading the comics when I was 7 years old. And PS, i'm on SHH too
So don't anyone give me some crap about 'teh real Batman fans'
If you don't like it or think it's weak, that's fine, but that doesn't make it objectively bad for everyone who's a 'real Batman fan'