The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[Calvin Candie]

its funny how the flaming batman symbol on the building
is on TDK poster but its in TDKR.

 

[Warden]

So, I braved Typhoon Vicente to see this in Hong Kong today, and I think it was better than I even dared to imagine. I watched TDK on the day of release in the UK and was disappointed, I only fully appreciated it the second time I watched it. I loved more or less everything about TDKR.

Bane is one of my favourite comic book characters, and I thought Hardy and Nolan did a great job bringing him to life in their universe. Anne Hathaway was the highlight of the movie for me, I thought she played Selena Kyle perfectly. I will probably try to watch again next week if I get the time.

The only thing that bugs me was the John Blake 'Robin' revelation. Why couldn't his real name have been ____ Grayson? I think that would have been much cooler.

Also, my girlfriend slept through pretty much the whole thing. She woke up long enough to ask me if Bane was Batman and then she crashed again. Needless to say she is going to be forced to watch Batman Begins and TDK this week.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Yeah -- even though the story is over, there's the open possibility of a big enough crisis drawing Bruce back. He and Joker may still be destined to do this forever. It is open-ended enough to satisfy me. Bruce ain't done, he's just on vacation. He's too obsessed.

Should've ended like Silence of the Lambs ... an after-credit sequence with a makeupless Joker smiling, putting on a purple fedora, and blending into the background of a train station or something. Maybe even just the back of his head, or a blurred image. Or an off-screen laugh. Calling card in the restaurant menu. I know Ledger is dead ... artsy it up. That would've been rather satisfying -- and full circle from BB.

SnakeDoc

That would have rocked.

 

[Ktjn]

I don't think people would've gotten it wrong if it weren't for Inception. They know Nolan can screw with your head, so they doubt their own understanding. People don't take Nolan movies at face value anymore ... which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

My wife asked if the ending was real.

SnakeDoc

I think with the ending, it's how ever you interpret what Alfred saw. It could have been a hallucination, thought, or real.

 

[IrishJedi]

The only thing that bugs me was the John Blake 'Robin' revelation. Why couldn't his real name have been ____ Grayson? I think that would have been much cooler.

Because he's not going to be Robin, he's going to be the new Batman. The whole "Robin" thing was just thrown in there as a pseudo easter egg.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

The only thing that bugs me was the John Blake 'Robin' revelation. Why couldn't his real name have been ____ Grayson? I think that would have been much cooler.

I think Nolan probably felt that even all non-Batman fans know who Robin is. But only Batman fans know who Grayson is. Sure, they could all find out afterwards if they bother to but it wouldn't have the impact while watching the movie.

Besides, Robin is just traditionally a more storied partner to Batman. Nolan probably doesn't have an immediate plan to make a new Batman movie so to him it's more of a tongue-in-cheek way of giving you a slight idea of what he's going to become without actually basing it on a pre-existing character or being confined to a certain backstory.

If you never see a movie after this from Nolan then who cares? Either way, he's going to fight crime and just because his name isn't ___ Grayson doesn't mean he's not similar.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

I think with the ending, it's how ever you interpret what Alfred saw. It could have been a hallucination, thought, or real.

I'm rather sure it was pretty straight forward that Bruce was alive and there at the end. But if you want to pretend it's a hallucination that's cool too.


I'm going to sit here and pretend that Catwoman was walking around naked the entire time. Hopefully that makes it real.

 

[Ktjn]

If you never see a movie after this from Nolan then who cares? Either way, he's going to fight crime and just because his name isn't ___ Grayson doesn't mean he's not similar.

People, Esp die hards, will always refer to Bruce as the Bat. There's people out there not accepting the ending.

 

[IrishJedi]

People, Esp die hards, will always refer to Bruce as the Bat. There's a lot of people out there not accepting this ending.

Well then they're being silly because there is A LOT about Nolan's Batman movies (particularly on how they portray Bruce Wayne) that is not inline with the source material.

This was the perfect ending to Nolan's particularly trilogy. Anyone saying "only Bruce Wayne can be Batman" really have not been paying much attention through the 3 films. It fits.

 

[Rorywan]

I chuckled at this...
Void? cover your eyes!


https://www.thehollywoodnews.com/20...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_27019

 

[Wor-Gar]

Flashbacks are not always just for dummies, if used effectively they can stir up emotions.

Did you employ the use of flashbacks in "Cannibal Campout"?

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I think with the ending, it's how ever you interpret what Alfred saw. It could have been a hallucination, thought, or real.

Nah. I don't think there's another interpretation. Bruce is alive.

Fox and that mechanic noted that Bruce Wayne had fixed the autopilot on the Bat (which he used to take the bomb out to sea), the necklace that Bruce had last was missing from estate inventory (which he took as a memento or to give to Selina), and he fixed the Batsignal for Gordon.

Why would he fix the autopilot, and then not use it? Who took the necklace? Who fixed the batsignal? Why would Alfred imagine Selina Kyle sitting with Bruce?

There's no other reasonable explanation of the ending aside from Bruce is alive.

SnakeDoc

 

[IrishJedi]

I chuckled at this...
Void? cover your eyes!


https://www.thehollywoodnews.com/20...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_27019

They make some valid points, particularly the part about the dialogue and how the Nolans get away with stuff that most others would be chastised for.

Speaking of dialogue... one bit that has always bugged me (since the teaser) is Gordon in the hospital. "Now this evil rises..." What cop talks like that?? Get that self-serious poop outta here.

 

[intothevoid]

its funny how the flaming batman symbol on the building
is on TDK poster but its in TDKR.

Loved that moment

I chuckled at this...
Void? cover your eyes!


https://www.thehollywoodnews.com/20...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_27019

He wants to slap Michael Caine. His opinion is invalid.

 

[Ktjn]

Nah. I don't think there's another interpretation. Bruce is alive.

Fox and that mechanic noted that Bruce Wayne had fixed the autopilot on the Bat (which he used to take the bomb out to sea), the necklace that Bruce had last was missing from estate inventory (which he took as a memento or to give to Selina), and he fixed the Batsignal for Gordon.

Why would he fix the autopilot, and then not use it? Who took the necklace? Who fixed the batsignal? Why would Alfred imagine Selina Kyle sitting with Bruce?

There's no other reasonable explanation of the ending aside from Bruce is alive.

SnakeDoc

Never said he wasn't alive, said that people can interpret the ending as they would like.

Didn't Alfred make a comment about Selina making for a nice gf, or something of that matter?

 

[IrishJedi]

Never said he wasn't alive, said that people can interpret the ending as they would like.

Didn't Alfred make a comment about Selina making for a nice gf, or something of that matter?

It was Fox. He says jokingly, "I like your girlfriend Mr. Wayne", to which she responds, "He wishes." One of the best moments in the film, actually.

 

[hunnipot85]

I thought the ending was very clear.

Bruce left his name on the autopilot thing, Lucious know he's alive.
Bruce repaired the Bat signal (presumably for Robin), to let Gordon know he was alive.
Alfred sees Bruce with Selina (she is wearing the missing necklace from Bruces' estate)

People think he is really dead and the ending was a dream of was open ended for interpretation?

 

[IrishJedi]

I thought the ending was very clear.

Bruce left his name on the autopilot thing, Lucious know he's alive.
Bruce repaired the Bat signal (presumably for the new Batman), to let Gordon know that Gotham still has a Batman.
Alfred sees Bruce with Selina (she is wearing the missing necklace from Bruces' estate)

People think he is really dead and the ending was a dream of was open ended for interpretation?

You nailed it, except for the bolded parts which I made a tad more clear.

 

[CTO15]

I thought the ending was very clear.

Bruce left his name on the autopilot thing, Lucious know he's alive.
Bruce repaired the Bat signal (presumably for Robin), to let Gordon know he was alive.
Alfred sees Bruce with Selina (she is wearing the missing necklace from Bruces' estate)

People think he is really dead and the ending was a dream of was open ended for interpretation?

maybe we got incepted?

 

[intothevoid]

The only open ended part of the ending IMO is what Robin Blake and Bruce do next with their lives.

Logic would dictate that Robin takes up the mantle of the Bat, and Bruce and Selina live happily ever after.

But really if you want to imagine something else, you're free to do so.

I can see some Robin Blake Batman 2.0/Nightwing/Robin customs popping up