The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

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While I enjoyed the movie overall, did anyone else think Bane sounded like W.C. Fields on occasion?

"Mr. Wayyyyyyyne...."

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The only problem is that it would need to be set in a world that is different than the one created in the Nolan films. By reboot, I mean they need to reboot the whole thing... new Wayne, new Batman, new Gotham, new everything... so that it can work with a larger DC film universe.

Now they can do all that and still have JGL as Batman, but it would be wonky, at best. Better to just start completely fresh and separate from Nolan's trilogy altogether. And the Batman of the JL needs to be Bruce Wayne, not Blake.

Well, given Gotham was completely destroyed by Bane and Co, you got your fresh Gotham and with Blake, the new Batman.

It's gonna suck to see yet another origin movie for Batman in a year and a half that will doubtfully surpass the one in the trilogy that just ended. That's why they'd just be better off continuing the story with Blake. You have instant recognition and an already built-in fan base. Sure people will hate it, but no more so than they already hate Nolan's who quit at the end.

So do not want JGL as Batman, much the same as I don't want Shia as Indy. Kill the entire character and franchise before you do either of those.

:exactly: No more sequels. Just endless reboots every other year! :cuckoo:

And start with a reboot of the stupid Spider-Man we just got. Give Peter Parker back his manhood. Desperately needs it.

They will struggle to sell a new Batman in the time period they're seemingly planning to

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They will struggle to sell a new Batman in the time period they're seemingly planning to

Only to the Nolan diehards, maybe. But Batman is Batman. As long as it's good it will work and people (particularly the mainstream) will accept it.

And it doesn't have to be an original tale, either. I think too many are assuming it will be.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I just got the Art and making of the Dark Knight Trilogy. It's about as good a book as you could possibly want about the films. Over 300 pages and tons of behind the scene photos. Bat fans should get it without question. Only $24.00 on amazon.

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Only to the Nolan diehards, maybe. But Batman is Batman. As long as it's good it will work and people (particularly the mainstream) will accept it.

And it doesn't have to be an original tale, either. I think too many are assuming it will be.

Yeah, only the Nolanites I think will have a problem. There was Batman before Nolan and there will be after his work isn't the sole vision of the character ever.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I just got the Art and making of the Dark Knight Trilogy. It's about as good a book as you could possibly want about the films. Over 300 pages and tons of behind the scene photos. Bat fans should get it without question. Only $24.00 on amazon.

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Yeah, we've discussed. It's pretty much a must-own.
 
As much as my giant man-crush on JGL doesn't want to allow me to say it, I really wouldn't want him as Batman in another movie.

And as much as I love the Nolan trilogy, I want the next series to be a big step away from this "world".
 
People, Esp die hards, will always refer to Bruce as the Bat. There's people out there not accepting the ending.

I get that. But this isn't the comics, it's based on an actual sense of realism where people age at a realistic stage. Nolan wanted his story to end with Bruce having to.."retire". He can't do it forever. He will always be THE definitive Batman. But in a real world Batman would either die with Bruce or have to be followed up by someone who was fit for the job.

Bruce can't be 65 years old fighting people like Bane. He barely survived this time.
 
And as much as I love the Nolan trilogy, I want the next series to be a big step away from this "world".

Yeah, this Trilogy was fun. I would like them to step back and look at what Marvel Studios has done leading up to The Avengers and literally copy that. Find a balance that is actually balanced between comic book and real.
 
Only to the Nolan diehards, maybe. But Batman is Batman. As long as it's good it will work and people (particularly the mainstream) will accept it.

And it doesn't have to be an original tale, either. I think too many are assuming it will be.

Yeah, only the Nolanites I think will have a problem. There was Batman before Nolan and there will be after his work isn't the sole vision of the character ever.

Oh of course Batman is Batman and there will be tons of future interpretations - no doubt about that - and who knows maybe someone manages to outdo Nolan's take too

But if the reboot is as close as 2015, I'm not so sure general audience will connect with that so quick

Even Spidey reboot was after 5 yrs and followed a universally panned Spiderman 3

Here you have a movie that most people love (so far) and you're planning to redo it all in 3 yrs time? By the time this comes out on DVD it'll only be like 2 yrs max till we get trailers on the Batman reboot

To me that sounds very risky

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I also want the next Batman to be very different from this, more fantastical. It doesn't need to copy what Marvel's doing though - there's not just one way to go about building up to a JLA or shared universe
 
Yeah, this Trilogy was fun. I would like them to step back and look at what Marvel Studios has done leading up to The Avengers and literally copy that. Find a balance that is actually balanced between comic book and real.

Well they can't exactly copy that because they're not gonna wait 4-5 years for the JL film. But what they will do is have "Man of Steel" be a more subtle introduction to the DC film universe, then probably a new Batman film a year or two after that, then a Justice League film, and THEN spin-offs with Wonder Woman, Flash, probably a new GL, etc. Marvel did all the big solo films upfront. Warner Bros can't and won't do that.
 
Yeah, this Trilogy was fun. I would like them to step back and look at what Marvel Studios has done leading up to The Avengers and literally copy that. Find a balance that is actually balanced between comic book and real.

I think they should take a very heavy inspiration from the Arkham Asylum / City world for a movie. To me, that is the perfect balance of the real world and the comic world, and the most feasible way of getting a more fantastical Batman world in screen.
 
But if the reboot is as close as 2015, I'm not so sure general audience will connect with that so quick.

Sure it will. For one, peoples' attention-spans will allow it. Secondly, as you already admitted, Batman is Batman and people will connect regardless (as long as it's not a piece of crap). Hell, Batman could even be anthology... with a completely new film world every 2-3 years... and people would probably accept it. Batman is pretty unique in that way. There have been umpteen interpretations (in print, animated, and live action) over the years and they've all been accepted. Well, except for Schumacher. :lol
 
If they go ahead with JGL who says it has to stay a Batman story??? Have JGL as Nightwing and have his fist movie be like a year one like Batman Begins and go form there but build and connect it to the Batman Nolan trilogy...
 
Well they can't exactly copy that because they're not gonna wait 4-5 years for the JL film. But what they will do is have "Man of Steel" be a more subtle introduction to the DC film universe, then probably a new Batman film a year or two after that, then a Justice League film, and THEN spin-offs with Wonder Woman, Flash, probably a new GL, etc. Marvel did all the big solo films upfront. Warner Bros can't and won't do that.

I know. I just meant more the style of how they do things and maybe get in a couple of movies before they go all in on a JLA movie.
 
I think they should take a very heavy inspiration from the Arkham Asylum / City world for a movie. To me, that is the perfect balance of the real world and the comic world, and the most feasible way of getting a more fantastical Batman world in screen.

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The fantasy elements exist but are taken dead seriously, Freeze, Croc, Solomon Grundy, they aren't funny looking brainless monsters with corny one liners, they are serious buissness.

And Batman doesn't need armor because hes the ____ing Batman, if you see him coming its because he wants you to know he's ____ing with you, not because hes sloppy and risking a gunshot wound. Give him the year one duds, let it involve into the AC suit where its just lightly armored.
 
The reboot will only work if it jumps headfirst into the world of Batman. If we spend 45 minutes of Bruce training in the mountains, we'll just have another Spiderman ____-storm.
 
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