The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[Rorywan]

I saw TDKR in the theater 8 times and noticed something new every time.

What? a new woman sitting next to you each time?
Batnerd.

 

[Pennyworth]

Never seen this photo before, thought I'd share:

I remember when this photo was discussed on Superherohype before the film's release...people thought the lines were part of the rigging and would be erased in post production...no clue they were from the batpod and part of flipping the semi. Good stuff

Just seems like there was so much more production photography available from TDK compared to TDKR...

 

[intothevoid]

What? a new woman sitting next to you each time?
Batnerd.

Go back far enough in this thread and you'll find all the answers.
Not to mention epic battles with Fabio

I remember when this photo was discussed on Superherohype before the film's release...people thought the lines were part of the rigging and would be erased in post production...no clue they were from the batpod and part of flipping the semi. Good stuff

Just seems like there was so much more production photography available from TDK compared to TDKR...

Good old days huh?

There was a LOT of TDKR photography too dude. But it had a different feel though as there wasn't the viral. However, stalking the set in London was super exciting for me

 

[tomandshell]

But now put up a picture of Bane or Talia and see what kind of reactions they get.

 

[crows]

 

[Bo Shrek]

What? a new woman sitting next to you each time?
Batnerd.

I think a new guy sitting next each time!!!

 

[intothevoid]

Women suit me just fine thanks

 

[CelticPredator]

 

[spindrift]

Go back far enough in this thread and you'll find all the answers.
Not to mention epic battles with Fabio





Good old days huh?

There was a LOT of TDKR photography too dude. But it had a different feel though as there wasn't the viral. However, stalking the set in London was super exciting for me

What set did you visit..the PIT????????????

 

[EVILFACE]

And people whine about Lucas not being able to get a good performance out of his actors.

What is Nolan's excuse for this scene?

 

[intothevoid]

What set did you visit..the PIT????????????

It was an internal set so I was just stalking the outside of the building along with other geeks

But they shot the bar shootout scene there mainly and some GCPD internals in all three films

And people whine about Lucas not being able to get a good performance out of his actors.

What is Nolan's excuse for this scene?

There can be no excuse for that scene

 

[Deckard]

And people whine about Lucas not being able to get a good performance out of his actors.

What is Nolan's excuse for this scene?

"Well Imax is very expensive so we could only do one take and...."

Seriously directors should avoid IMAX like the plague if it means you only get a single take. Especially when you build your reputation on being so techincally proficient. That to me is the biggest problem with TDKR, it just feels so sloppy compared to everything else he's done in virtually every facet.

 

[intothevoid]

It is definitely sloppy in a number of places. Agreed. However, for me, what the IMAX adds to the film outweighs the sloppiness.

 

[Khev]

Have to say I find rewatching this movie more interesting than TDK.

I agree. I recently watched BB for the first time in over six years and must say that I now rank them accordingly:

TDKR
BB
TDK

BB was spectacular! I'd forgotten how crazy good of a "Batman" movie it is, with the Gotham City atmosphere, origin, original costume, Arkham Asylum, Batcave and Wayne Manor.

TDK lost all of the "Batman" atmosphere (save the title character and his vehicles) and replaced it with the backdrop of a traditional crime/mob movie. Bold move, and it works, but I too find myself less interested in watching it from beginning to end. There's SO much Harvey Dent/Gordon/mob/Hong Kong crap that just doesn't hold a candle to the Joker sequences. Its still a great movie but I really have to be in "crime/mob movie" mode to watch it in its entirety.

TDKR continues with the reduced "Batman" atmosphere of TDK but still brings it back slightly to BB by re-introducing Wayne Manor, the Batcave, sewers, and well, live bats. But for the first time we finally have well cast truly engaging female characters, a Darth Vader-esque threat and finally a movie where Batman flies his "Batwing" for more than five seconds.

On a side note I found it interesting that the foreshadowing of Bruce hanging up the cowl and retiring was set up in all three movies. He clearly isn't happy with his role as Gotham's Caped Crusader when Rachel rejects him at the end of BB with the disclaimer that they might hook up "when Gotham no longer needs him," which is continued a short 20 minutes into TDK when Dent states that Batman is looking for a replacement and Bruce contemplates the dialogue as if caught in the act. It only takes him scant milliseconds to assume the role of murderer at the end of the film and step down as the city's "protector" in favor of the memory of Harvey Dent.

I also found it interesting rewatching his final test with Ducard when he sliced the sleeves of the two other ninjas to draw his foe to them so he could strike unnoticed from behind. He made their "costumes" exactly like his so he could "retire," regroup, and strike with an advantage. To me that says that Blake is the "injured ninja" that can draw the attention of any new bad guys but if Bruce's replacement can't handle them he'll come back at the last minute when needed. Of course that isn't spelled out and anyone can assume whatever they want but that's how I take the finished trilogy as a whole.

 

[crows]

that looks so painful

 

[intothevoid]

I also found it interesting rewatching his final test with Ducard when he sliced the sleeves of the two other ninjas to draw his foe to them so he could strike unnoticed from behind. He made their "costumes" exactly like his so he could "retire," regroup, and strike with an advantage. To me that says that Blake is the "injured ninja" that can draw the attention of any new bad guys but if Bruce's replacement can't handle them he'll come back at the last minute when needed. Of course that isn't spelled out and anyone can assume whatever they want but that's how I take the finished trilogy as a whole.

That's an interesting take on the ending. Thing is the trilogy is so rich with symbolism, metaphors and parallels you can analyze it all and what it means endlessly.

And I love doing that.

 

[Khev]

That's an interesting take on the ending. Thing is the trilogy is so rich with symbolism, metaphors and parallels you can analyze it all and what it means endlessly.

And I love doing that.

Yeah, think about it. Bruce was a ninja surrounded by lesser ninjas fighting an evenly matched foe. He got damaged, lost his advantage, so used two lesser ninjas as his "replacement" until he was ready to re-engage. That was an establishing moment of his character.

In TDKR his soul was damaged and he just needed to activate a "lesser ninja" to stand in for him while he cleansed the palette and regrouped. In my version of the story he'll be back when most needed and least expected just like when he faced the final trial of Ducard. You'd have to really ignore everything set up with his character for three straight movies to assume that he'd just watch Gotham burn from a TV screen in Italy and not take up his old crime smashing hobbies if needed.

 

[intothevoid]

In my version of the story he sees his mission as establishing an everlasting symbol of hope for Gotham, because he knows he is mortal and one day he will die, either as Batman or naturally.

So the whole time while he's waging his war on crime, he's got the question of who will take up his mantle at the back of his mind.

In faking his death in the act of saving Gotham, he sees an opportunity to be forever etched in Gotham lore, and in Blake, he sees the next iteration of the Batman symbol.

Sure, he doesn't have the ninja training, but..
'The training is nothing, the WILL is everything, the will to act.'
And Blake has that in spades.

Incidentally that training montage from BB is definitely my favourite scene in the trilogy, behind the interrogation scene in TDK and the climb in TDKR, and is also probably my favourite movie sequence of all time.

 

[Khev]

In my version of the story he sees his mission as establishing an everlasting symbol of hope for Gotham, because he knows he is mortal and one day he will die, either as Batman or naturally.

So the whole time while he's waging his war on crime, he's got the question of who will take up his mantle at the back of his mind.

In faking his death in the act of saving Gotham, he sees an opportunity to be forever etched in Gotham lore, and in Blake, he sees the next iteration of the Batman symbol.

Sure, he doesn't have the ninja training, but..

'The training is nothing, the WILL is everything, the will to act.'

And Blake has that in spades.

Yep, watching all three they really pound home the notion that Bruce is "just an ordinary man in a cape" as Ducard stated. That wasn't what he was about. Never was. It was creating about legend. And that he did.

 

[jye4ever]

Metaphors are over used to justify weak stories.