Yeah, but I see his point. It's just not that much of fun if Batman isn't in it much. Then it's just a good serious drama, not an action comic book movie. Just would have been nice to see him Rise sooner, or show some montage footage of a few side missions or appearances or something for the last 8 years. And if he was totally gone for all that time, that's fine. Then just bring him out earlier in the movie to deal with situations. Not just save it for the final scenes.
Overall I felt Batman was barely present in all of the movies lol
It just makes you wanting more, that's all
I will like this movie, but won't come out of it like a giddy school boy like I did Avengers. I guess I just love that combination of action, humor, fun, superheroes kicking ass style a bit more.
Define fun though! TDK was a crime thriller, pure and simple. BB was abit more like a comic book film but still nothing like the avengers.
I think the problem is you expect something that these Batman films dont give; they dont do what the avengers do. I thought avengers was boring and I didnt enjoy it. Im not interested in huge set pieces or lots of action and cgi. Avengers delivered that and It bored me. TDK, I thought was phenomenal, because Batman has always been more than just punch, kick, apprehend, job done. Batman to me, has always been the focus about story, character driven drama.
Thats why, some of the greatest moments in TDK to me, were the conversations between Batman and Joker, Batman/gordon/dent. The action is few and far between, but in TDK I thought it was perfectly paced. The action was there when necessary, not just for the sake of it. The quality was also top notch; Taking down the police at the end, the fight with Joker at the fund raiser. Prolonged battles have never been Batman. Its always about trying to finish the fight as quick and efficiently as possible. Half the time, Batman doesnt even lay a punch, he uses his brain to take his opponents out.
And the thing is, batman is NOT a superhero. he is a vigilante. he doesnt have super powers. He is a human being. Batman himself has no humor, sometimes he shares a short joke or comment with Robin, Nightwing, even joker. But batman to me, its never about 'fun' or humor or style or kicking ass. batman has compassion for his enemies, its the dialogue, characterisation, the connection with tragedy which connects batman.
Thats why the ultimate scene was the interrogation scene. It wasnt an action scene, but it was pitch perfect; batman losing it and Punching his hand, Slamming his head into the table, then making 3 punches and slamming jokers head into the glass. Thats it. But its the exchange that made that scene perfect.
I find that fun, I find the characterisation and the drama fun, the action you appreciate more because its sparingly used, as a last resort really because in a way, it is.
Long halloween, theres not alot of fighting or action in it in honesty, its dialogue, characterisation, drama, story driven content with action rarely seen. Thats what I enjoy.
Avengers to me for example was a CGI spectacle, but aside from Downey Jr, I didnt like hawkeye being under used, Widow was eye candy and rubbish (scarlett though, my bed is waiting!), Captain america I cant stand, let alone chris evans. All I see is a horrible johnny storm. Thor is a poor character IMO too and Hulk bores me. I thought avengers, whilst it was great that you got all the characters together and it wasnt a disaster, I didnt enjoy the film. Chitauri Aliens? Boring. It was just such a piss poor story. Explosions and action? sure, but it was boring with no real point.
In my opinion, alot of the praise for Avengers is because people thought they would never get the characters together. Not the fact that getting them together worked but it was a pretty poor, standard comic book fare with some crap characterisation (where was hawkeye?) and plenty of the 'do a flip, land on the floor and camera zoom for 5 seconds for dramatic fashion. It was just a bore to me, I wanted a quality story not a CGI fest. But thats what the Avengers is, its characters are.
And thats what I dont like. Marvel wise, I only like Iron Man, Punisher, Spidey and Wolverine. So that accounts for alot too I believe.
Haven't been to a movie in a omnimax screen since I was a little kid.
