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[The Mike]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Everything is Internet BS. There still isn't a script, so there are no characters to cast...

Quoted for Truth.

You don't need a script to Cast Characters. They can do that right off the completed Story Outline/Treatment. The Major Characters are all there. Of course things could change but I think they have the basic story they want to tell.

Goyer had an original three part story in mind but Nolan changes it once he starts working. He admitted that BB ws changed that TDK was seriously changed and that in the brief meetings the third part would be the most changed. They've said they have villains in mind but that nothing is ironed out yet.

I'm sure Chris already has Actors in mind that he'd like to play certain Characters. If he wanted he could meet an Actor privately, pitch the story and Character and cast them right there...Some Actors commit to Roles with certain Directors before a script is written.

According to most reports he met with Ledger before TDK was ironed out. He always had him in mind. So once Nolan figures out which villains he wants to spotlight I guarantee you he'll meet with them, but all reports so far have indicated that he hasn't even committed to villains, so I would say its a safe wager that he hasn't met with anyone just yet.

This is more the exception than the rule of course but the point is with a Franchise like this and a known quantity like Chris, it wouldn't be a real stretch for an Actor to commit early.

This is true. With the huge success that TDK had and the predictable success a next film will have, any actor would sign on sight unseen just for exposure, press and buzz about their attachment to the project. Nolan is doing a film before right? We probably won't hear about a Batman casting until mid to late 2010 in all reality unless something comes together really quick.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Yes, but there isn't even a treatment at this point IIRC. Nolan apparently doesn't know which characters will be in the next film yet.

The script was being worked on in Feb as confirmed by Roven. That means an outline was already fleshed out, if not a treatment.

Some Writers work off outlines, others off Treatments. In any case Nolan could pre-cast Actors at this stage if he wanted to.

 

[The Mike]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

If they have actually nailed down villains, the odds are Nolan has already met with the actors he has in mind that seems to be his M.O.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

If they have actually nailed down villains, the odds are Nolan has already met with the actors he has in mind that seems to be his M.O.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. Major Characters. For example, if Catwoman is a Character in this Film and they wanted Angeline, scheduling her becomes a factor as some Actors are booked 2 years in advance.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

The script was being worked on in Feb as confirmed by Roven.

In that case he could certainly start fishing around for actors.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Everything is Internet BS. There still isn't a script, so there are no characters to cast...

The script was being worked on in Feb as confirmed by Roven. That means an outline was already fleshed out, if not a treatment.

Some Writers work off outlines, others off Treatments. In any case Nolan could pre-cast Actors at this stage if he wanted to.

In that case he could certainly start fishing around for actors.

Yup. Never too early, hell some scripts are WRITTEN with specific actors in mind, so the notion of NO SCRIPT=NO ACTORS is false. You just did a complete 180 in your last few posts. The fact remains ALL of the internet rumors MAY be based in some fact because you yourself just admitted that Nolan may be making moves already.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Yup. Never too early, hell some scripts are WRITTEN with specific actors in mind, so the notion of NO SCRIPT=NO ACTORS is false. You just did a complete 180 in your last few posts.

Yes, because new information was introduced. The last I heard there wasn't even a treatment. No characters = no casting. Now there is apparently a treatment, which means they've decided which characters they want to use and can start the casting process.

If you spend more time reading and less time trying to score points, it'll all come together for you.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Everything is Internet BS. There still isn't a script, so there are no characters to cast...

You gave Absoulutley NO MENTION OF ANY TREATMENT, You only mentioned a script and the fact that since there is no script, characters cannot be casted.., which you just admitted is wrong because you now state that there CAN BE CASTINGS DONE WITHOUT A SCRIPT..... There may be no script, but the fact that there has been work done means characters can be casted (work that you had no idea happened)..... Sorry.. looks like your the one who hasnt been reading because you dont even know what YOU YOURSELF posted.

Mabey before you give opinions you should become slightly informed about a given topic, in this case the current status of the DK sequel, because if it wasnt for another kind poster informing you, you would know nothing about its current status, and you just serve to prove how uninformed you really are.

Not my fault you completly flipped over yourself over like a pillow on a humid night...

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

You gave Absoulutley NO MENTION OF ANY TREATMENT

Right. I wasn't aware a treatment had been written (in fact we don't even know if a treatment has been written apparently, only that the script was being worked on in February). When it was pointed out to me that there was in fact writing being done, I agreed it was feasible early casting could be in the works. Which part of this are you having a hard time understanding?

Apologies for being a few weeks behind on the latest gossip.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Right. I wasn't aware a treatment had been written.

Apologies for being a few weeks behind on the latest gossip.

Just that when people wish to sound smart and repond to posts, they usually try to know what their talking about , or else they just come off as very lame.Don't respond to my post when you are not only a few weeks behind, but a few months behind, and unable to contribute anything useful. Piece of advice for next time champ.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Don't respond to my post when you are not only a few weeks behind, but a few months behind, and unable to contribute anything useful.

Can you link to an authoritative source demonstrating a treatment was written months ago or were you bluffing? Google turns up nothing, while as recently as three weeks ago Michael Caine could only guess who the villain might be.

At any rate, you seem to be missing the forest for the trees here, my friend. If you want a point for pedantry, it's yours. But I'm sure the grown ups followed the logic chain.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Yeah....there really is nothing new for this. Nolan is onto something else for now, and they wont give away the villian until the FINAL script is actually done.

And you can't really cast an actor before you write...I mean, unless you know the guy personally, but i'd be kinda hard to cast Johnny Depp as The Riddler without a script, only it turns out that The Riddler is actually a drug dealer who sells a new narcotic called "RIDDLEin.." (heh heh...i'm funny), since that would be lame, Mr. Depp would have trouble getting out.

Or perhaps i'm just rambling. I'm waiting for my Riff Trax Batman and Robin to download.

 

[The Mike]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Depp has signed onto playing Tonto in the Lone Ranger without a script. He also signed on to play the Mad Hatter without a script for Tim Burton which is in post production. He also signed on to play Jack Sparrow when these were the concepts:

It was Depp who changed the design.

If we are talking reality, let's get real. The latest Batman franchise is a license to print money. The royalities to likeness alone is worth more than any paycheck. The exposure, the boost to career not to mention the challenge to fill the boots of a Batvillain after the much beloved Ledger performance is attractive to any actor worth their salt.

If Chris Nolan showed up to any actor and said "Hey you wanna play Calendar Man or Tweedledee or Tweedledum" any actor would happily sign on the dotted line forget about rememorable villain prospects like The Riddler, Catwoman or Clayface. Especially essentric actors like Depp who would turn the role into their own and like he did with POTC change the actor into what the actor envisions.

In reality....the treatments have started, it was printed online, I'm too lazy to search it out. Goyer was quoted as saying its begun:

Make no mistake about it, though, a third film HAS been discussed, Goyer confessed, revealing that, while nothing is concrete, both a villain and a theme have been bandied about.

"We’ve only talked loosely about it, though, Chris and I," Goyer said.

Interestingly, it’s the theme, and not the villain, that most interests me, especially given how the latter seems inexorably tied to the former in this new modern Batman universe. (Fear the predominant issue in “Begins” precipitating the introduction of Scarecrow, escalation in "Knight" similarly calling for The Joker.

The fact that Goyer has a theme he wants to keep in mind for a possible “Batman 3” means he also has a direction, a crisis, and, yes, a villain.

So what is it?

"I have one,” Goyer said laughing. “But I’m not going to tell you. Chris is very particular about that."

If Nolan has picked a villain, just like he did with Heath where he spoke to and locked him in before even having a final draft, he has already discussed with them. I'd bet my collection on it.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Everybody please play nice.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

You came at me with misinfromation and then fell all over yourself like a bow-legged donkey, so I suggest you don't do that anymore bcause it only made you look lame.

And tust me, son, there are absolutely no points to be won from you. Hell that's like being proud of stepping on an ant on the sidewalk .

 

[J-Wild]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

With Nolan working on Inception with Leo now, I'd say things concerning the 3RD Bat-film are being put on the back burner. True he did The Prestige between BB and TDK, but that film was nothing of the scope that Inception will be. Man, I'm as excited for this film as I am the 3RD Bat-film! Can't wait!

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

In reality....the treatments have started, it was printed online, I'm too lazy to search it out. Goyer was quoted as saying its begun

As of a February 2009 interview Goyer is not signed on to the project.

You came at me with misinfromation and then fell all over yourself like a bow-legged donkey, so I suggest you don't do that anymore bcause it only made you look lame.

In other words, you were bluffing and can't provide a link.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

As of a February 2009 interview Goyer is not signed on to the project.



In other words, you were bluffing and can't provide a link.

It wasn't me, some other kind poster is the one who made you look like a lame by flipping you. You remind me of frank pentangeli when his brother walked in the courtroom.... Just let the wound bleed out, stop picking at it.... You'll be okay, son.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

It wasn't me, some other kind poster is the one who made you look like a lame by flipping you.

I don't know what town you're from, but where I live changing your opinion based on new information is called behaving like a grown up.

Mind you, I can't find anything online definitively stating that new information is true. I'm taking it on faith.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I don't know what town you're from, but where I live changing your opinion based on new information is called behaving like a grown up.

Mind you, I can't find anything online definitively stating that new information is true. I'm taking it on faith.

I dont know what town you're from, but where I live reponding to someone while your not invited to do so while you not knowing anything on the given topic yourself is called behaving like a pretentious lame.

Lets just leave it, as you have a tendency to destroy good posts. I do not want that done to this one aswell.