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[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I dont know what town you're from, but where I live reponding to someone while your not invited to do so while you not knowing anything on the given topic yourself is called behaving like a pretentious lame.

How bizarre that you don't seem to understand how message boards work.

As of early February there was no script, no treatment, nothing. As of last month key players had no idea who would be in the movie. As far as Google can determine, anything beyond that is rumor that I'm accepting at face value. There may well be an authoritative source revealing a treatment or script has been completed, but you haven't been able to find it. If someone can find something, that would be great, because although I'm happy to accept what forum members say at face value there's so much misinformation out there concerning this film it would be great to have something definitive.

And even if it turns out I'm not on the cutting edge of Batman movie news ... so what? You're acting like this is some sort of massive debating victory when in fact it's a normal conversation. I said something about how movie casting works, someone else suggested that benchmark had already been met, I agreed it was likely casting could then be underway. Which part of that are you having a difficult time processing?

Really, you're just making yourself look like a fool. But I know this is some misguided effort to score points and get the last word for you, so you might as well give it one last shot.

 

[HdoubleD]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

How bizarre that you don't seem to understand how message boards work.

As of early February there was no script, no treatment, nothing. As of last month key players had no idea who would be in the movie. As far as Google can determine, anything beyond that is rumor that I'm accepting at face value. There may well be an authoritative source revealing a treatment or script has been completed, but you haven't been able to find it. If someone can find something, that would be great, because although I'm happy to accept what forum members say at face value there's so much misinformation out there concerning this film it would be great to have something definitive.

And even if it turns out I'm not on the cutting edge of Batman movie news ... so what? You're acting like this is some sort of massive debating victory when in fact it's a normal conversation. I said something about how movie casting works, someone else suggested that benchmark had already been met, I agreed it was likely casting could then be underway. Which part of that are you having a difficult time processing?

Really, you're just making yourself look like a fool. But I know this is some misguided effort to score points and get the last word for you, so you might as well give it one last shot.

Well i'll tell you how they don't work, by responding to post when you have no bloody idea what your talking about.


I bolded the part of your statement for even greater clarity, hopefully you dont make the same mistake in another post and try to be more educated next time.

And I mentioned the points issue already, your an ant in my world, nothing to be won from stepping on you.

Stop ruining the thread flipflop, nobody wants to hear you

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Now he's got that out of his system - anyone have any hard news on this movie?

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Here's what we know.

Goyer Wrote a treatment or hashed out a Story which included a Main Villain he was all jazzed about. He confirmed this last year.

Nolan Committed to project.

Producer Charles Roven confirmed the Script was being worked on (Feb 09)

Here's how I am reading between the lines, having some experience in these matters working in the Industry (and WB Studio) from the Creative end. And this is ALL Speculation on my part because no one at WB is talking openly about the project:

Nolan read Goyer's Treatment or met with him regarding his "take" on it.

Storyline/Outline was hashed out.

Script is being written based on outline/treatment.

Storyline, Main Villains/Central Characters are in place.

Now, this is kind of how it works. These three: Chris, Jonathan and David are sort of the base Creative team. Anyone one of them could be writing the first draft of the Script, but the point is the Storyline and outline are basically set.

Chris could revisit the script at anytime (even on another set) add notes, maybe rewrite scenes until he is happy with it. Or he may (more likely) give Jonathan notes for a rewrite. Or maybe ask David to rewrite it. It's all a collaborative effort. Notes exchanged, Revised Drafts, etc. Some Writing teams write different parts of a screenplay. "You write the first Act, I'll write third act, etc") Or they part out pages... "you do pgs 1-45, I'll do 45-90, etc."

My guess is Jonathan is writing the Screenplay, sending it to Chris for notes. Once Chris feels comfortable with it, he will either Write the Final draft, parts of it or rewrite scenes as he feels necessary. The Studio could then insist, after reading the final draft, that changes be made, but in this case I think they are taking a hands off approach and letting these Guys run with it as they see fit.

In Dark Knight, David contributed heavily to the Story and Chris and Jonathan wrote the Screenplay, I suspect the same is happening here.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Goyer Wrote a treatment or hashed out a Story which included a Main Villain he was all jazzed about. He confirmed this last year.

Roven just last month said Nolan was the only person signed to write anything so far, which throws the above into spec territory. Your hypothesis could be right, but the truth is we just don't know yet. I should probably ask Uslan's kid what's going on, but it seems a little gauche.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Roven just last month said Nolan was the only person signed to write anything so far, which throws the above into spec territory. Your hypothesis could be right, but the truth is we just don't know yet. I should probably ask Uslan's kid what's going on, but it seems a little gauche.

Well, I'm just having fun speculating. It is what I think may be happening. But you do have to read between the lines. If you look at how the first 2 Films were developed and written, Chris was never the only one involved.

In BB, David did the early heavy lifting, and Chris took the reigns from there.

In TDK, David did the early heavy lifting, and Chris, along with Jonathan, wrote the Screenplay.

In no previous Nolan Film, was David not involved or Chris the only one involved in the creative process.

The Studio's position is a default "It's in Chris' hands" so I don't think you'll be getting much official inside chatter from them. But I seriously doubt Chris is the only one creatively involved in this.

 

[barbelith]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

But I seriously doubt Chris is the only one creatively involved in this.

I don't disagree. But there's a difference between producing a treatment on spec (which is what Goyer appears to have done last year) and actually being hired to work on the picture in a formal capacity. It would be nice to know something concrete.

Your speculation is informed and intelligent, but it's still speculation.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

3rd Film to start shooting in 2010 According to Jim Gordon

https://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994:BlogPost:1473036

 

[PapitoMX]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

We'll see.....

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

3rd Film to start shooting in 2010 According to Jim Gordon

https://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994:BlogPost:1473036

Good to know Oldman will be back too.

 

[Something Sexy]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Real question is if Nolan will be back but they REALLY need good villains because I am over Christian Bale as Batman. His performance was lack luster in the TDK he better step it up or they better over shadow him again with good villains.

 

[Natrix]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

3rd Film to start shooting in 2010 According to Jim Gordon

https://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994:BlogPost:1473036

Not so fast...

https://www.aintitcool.com/node/41811

UPDATE:

I just interviewed Oldman and he back-peddled a bit on it, going from sure to the movie filming next year on the panel to a more "well, I'm sure they want to do another one... it might 2 or 3 years..." I'll have the exact quote for you in my interview, which I hope to have up tomorrow, but maybe them horses need holdin'. Or maybe he slipped and got an earful from Warners. What do you folks think?

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Actually, now that I stop and think, has Nolan even started to shoot his next film yet? Next spring seems early to start a Batman if he's still working on his non-Batman project.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Real question is if Nolan will be back but they REALLY need good villains because I am over Christian Bale as Batman. His performance was lack luster in the TDK he better step it up or they better over shadow him again with good villains.

I don't think Bale gave a bad performance, I think he was given little to perform with. I loved Bale as Bruce/Batman in Begins, my letdown in TDK was the story didn't focus on him much, it was more Harvey and Joker centered. Batman was over shadowed because the other two had more screen time to really shine. My hope is a third film goes back to a Begins style where the villain is more secondary and the focal point is Bruce.

 

[turtlepower73]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

who knows. unless another popular actor dies. this movie will not do as good as the last one..the dark knight owes it success to heath ledger and him dying..

 

[turtlepower73]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

it's horrible to say and think that. but it's true.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I don't care if this isn't Dark Knight success in the B.O. Batman Begins wasn't as strong and still an equally enjoyable film. I just want more good Batman movies and Nolan's making the kind I can really get into.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I don't care if this isn't Dark Knight success in the B.O. Batman Begins wasn't as strong and still an equally enjoyable film. I just want more good Batman movies and Nolan's making the kind I can really get into.

exactly!!!! i actually hated batman begins the first time i saw it. repeated viewings made me appreciate the awesomeness.

 

[pjam]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Actually, now that I stop and think, has Nolan even started to shoot his next film yet? Next spring seems early to start a Batman if he's still working on his non-Batman project.

Who said next Spring? "Next Year" could mean 18 months from now. I think the cue will be similar to TDK. Once we start hearing about New/Villain Castings, like we did with Heath, the countdown will begin. Nolan could easily wrap his film by next Spring and have 6 months to prepare for this, but I imagine it will be longer. It always is.

For the record, Oldman is a very smart Guy, so if he said next year, that means someone told him that was a rough estimate projection. Warners clearly gagged him, not wanting to hold to any News this early. I think the best we can glean from this is that a 3rd film is in the very early stages and of course Gary will be in it. :blackbat

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Now I'm confused, I swear I read April-May somwhere