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[SnakeDoctor]

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(Not mine. Hijacked off DeviantArt.)

SnakeDoc

 

[meth head]

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Is that fake Doc?

 

[wofford29]

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Yes. The pic is from Bronson.

 

[intothevoid]

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Yeah it's a manip, but a badass one! Can't wait to see Bane in action

 

[meth head]

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That is a badass manip! I am really pleased with the Hardy/Bane villain now, I am excited for this very much now!

 

[SnakeDoctor]

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Yeah, its fake. Its a photoshopped still from "Bronson".

SnakeDoc

 

[TheFiend]

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Still a debate over comic accuracy ... and I'm not sure that has much relevance, particularly in the case of a downballot villain like Bane.

The thing is, Joker is an extremely culturally well-defined comic book villain, even among people who have never read a comic book. Perhaps the most well-defined aside from maybe Lex Luthor. And, even then, Nolan changed the Joker quite a bit ... few jokes, no permawhite, cut smile, etc.

Bane, like Ras before him, just isn't well defined culturally. Very few non-comic readers (a vocal minority) know who Bane is aside from the mouth-breathing hammerhead from Batman & Robin (which they're hoping to delete from memory). I think he may depart from the comic even a bit more than Joker did ... more along the lines of Ras.

So ... he's 5'9", and extremely muscular -- and wears some kind of ventilation thing rather than a wrestling mask.

I think we're bound for a significant redefinition of the character -- we'll get some of the core characteristics, but a lot of re-interpretation. But, like you said, time will tell.

SnakeDoc

Im not that concerned with the whole height thing either besides didnt they make Michael Keaton appear bigger than he was when he was beside Kim Basinger. And that was when he was out of the bat suit

 

[Devil_666]

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[Master Wayne]

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[karamazov80]

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I don't see why the comic mask is being criticized now. . .

I'm with you on this one. I actually am not disappointed with the choice Nolan seems to be going with, because I know it's gonna work out fine and be a good movie. But to say that something from the comic is silly and ridiculous while everything Nolan does is practical and realistic or whatever. . .I just don't buy the argument. It's all fantasy that is only relatively realistic compared with some other comic movies. If Nolan went with the Luchadore mask, it would've been fine and good. He didn't, it will be fine. Same thing with people saying X-Men outfits would be too silly on the screen, but don't blink an eye when Superman wears his red undies over his blue leotards. You want realism, don't watch a comic book movie.

 

[jye4ever]

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The first rule of Bane's Fight Club is, you do not talk about Bane's Fight Club. The second rule of Bane's Fight Club is, you do NOT talk about Bane's Fight Club!

 

[Mr. EcKo]

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well at least we get some more muscle bodies for bashes

If Hot Toys does the line

 

[The Ringer]

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^^^^

HT and Batman go together like peanut butter and ladies.

 

[The Mike]

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If Hot Toys does the line

If? I guarantee that by Christmas next year they'll be so many HT Batman products either out and/or solicited that it'll make the Iron Man 2 line look bare.

 

[Kabukiman]

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If Hot Toys does the line

The TDK line was such a disappointment for Hot Toys, I wouldn't hold my breath for anything from Rises.

 

[karamazov80]

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Yeah, they'll probably go after the Spirit DTV sequel, instead.

 

[Maglor]

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Still a debate over comic accuracy ... and I'm not sure that has much relevance, particularly in the case of a downballot villain like Bane.

The thing is, Joker is an extremely culturally well-defined comic book villain, even among people who have never read a comic book. Perhaps the most well-defined aside from maybe Lex Luthor. And, even then, Nolan changed the Joker quite a bit ... few jokes, no permawhite, cut smile, etc.

Bane, like Ras before him, just isn't well defined culturally. Very few non-comic readers (a vocal minority) know who Bane is aside from the mouth-breathing hammerhead from Batman & Robin (which they're hoping to delete from memory). I think he may depart from the comic even a bit more than Joker did ... more along the lines of Ras.

So ... he's 5'9", and extremely muscular -- and wears some kind of ventilation thing rather than a wrestling mask.

I think we're bound for a significant redefinition of the character -- we'll get some of the core characteristics, but a lot of re-interpretation. But, like you said, time will tell.

SnakeDoc

1) The "ventilation thing" is a non issue for me. Doesn't bother me at all.

2) Where are you getting "extremely muscular"?

3) The public doesn't need to know about the character, they just need to believe he's a threat. Unless Nolan is making BANE a strictly intellectual villain, then he needs to by physically intimidating to be believable.

4) This is decidedly not intimidating going up against a Superhero:

 

[Sachiel]

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Intimidating!

 

[Grange Wallis]

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Height is a non-issue because of:

Albeit, Vinnie Jones is tall, he is not that tall and some shots in X3 he has been made to look larger than others with in the frame.

 

[wofford29]

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1) The "ventilation thing" is a non issue for me. Doesn't bother me at all.

2) Where are you getting "extremely muscular"?

3) The public doesn't need to know about the character, they just need to believe he's a threat. Unless Nolan is making BANE a strictly intellectual villain, then he needs to by physically intimidating to be believable.

4) This is decidedly not intimidating going up against a Superhero:

Batman isn't a superhero. He's a man in a costume that knows how to fight. All you need to be a formidable villain is to know how to fight back. Manny Pacqiuo is a midget, do you think he intimidates his opponents?