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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Bane's mask...
He looks like a muzzled beast instead of a luchador.
There is tubing running from the rounded area at the back of the mask to the mouth piece in front. Near the rounded area at the back is a small knob.
There also seems to be a scar running down his spine. Possibly from surgery.
Then you have Alon Aboutboul cast in the role of a "mad scientist".
His mask is designed for a certain function. It wouldn't look that way otherwise. Doesn't seem far-fetched to think he will use Venom.
There's a rumor that he's impervious to pain. That, along with using venom (without tubes hanging around) should be a real, physical challenge to Batman. As Bane should be...
a person or thing that ruins or spoils; a deadly poison; death; destruction; ruin.
Bane's mask...
He looks like a muzzled beast instead of a luchador.
There is tubing running from the rounded area at the back of the mask to the mouth piece in front. Near the rounded area at the back is a small knob.
There also seems to be a scar running down his spine. Possibly from surgery.
Then you have Alon Aboutboul cast in the role of a "mad scientist".
His mask is designed for a certain function. It wouldn't look that way otherwise. Doesn't seem far-fetched to think he will use Venom.
There's a rumor that he's impervious to pain. That, along with using venom (without tubes hanging around) should be a real, physical challenge to Batman. As Bane should be...
a person or thing that ruins or spoils; a deadly poison; death; destruction; ruin.
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And he's a massive 5'10". Just like Bane should be.
And he's a massive 5'10". Just like Bane should be.
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I'm going to guess that if Nolan chose Bane on his own he either is going to rework Bane too fit in to his universe, or the plot is one where Bane fits in. There are just too many famous and popular rogues for Nolan to choose Bane without having a reason.
I'm going to guess that if Nolan chose Bane on his own he either is going to rework Bane too fit in to his universe, or the plot is one where Bane fits in. There are just too many famous and popular rogues for Nolan to choose Bane without having a reason.
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The entire height thing is a non issue. You guys need to get over that ____.
The entire height thing is a non issue. You guys need to get over that ____.
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I don't see why the comic mask is being criticized now. In the comics, it looked better than a luchador mask. In fact, don't all luchador masks have mouth holes? They always look like gimps.
Bane didn't. The mask and venom were trademarks of the character. If they tried to incorporate the mask into the film I doubt it would have looked ridiculous. To say that an actual mask wouldn't have a function is ridiculous. The mask could be used for intimidation and to hide identity.
There's one reason they're using that muzzle type Hannibal Lecter mask and that's for Hardy to emote. It's not as much about design or functionality as it is for the actor to be seen. They did the same thing with Arnold as Mr. Freeze by not giving him goggles and a more exposed head/face, just like this.
I'm not really criticizing the teaser pic. I just think it's too early to say "oh, that thing sucks" or "OMG, that is fantastic. Nolan is my god. Better than the comic!" Personally I feel indifferent about it. I'm just excited about it being an official pic for a new Batman film.
If we didn't have any information about Bane appearing in TDKR or confirmation that Hardy would be playing him, I doubt everyone could guess exactly who this is supposed to be.
I don't see why the comic mask is being criticized now. In the comics, it looked better than a luchador mask. In fact, don't all luchador masks have mouth holes? They always look like gimps.
Bane didn't. The mask and venom were trademarks of the character. If they tried to incorporate the mask into the film I doubt it would have looked ridiculous. To say that an actual mask wouldn't have a function is ridiculous. The mask could be used for intimidation and to hide identity.
There's one reason they're using that muzzle type Hannibal Lecter mask and that's for Hardy to emote. It's not as much about design or functionality as it is for the actor to be seen. They did the same thing with Arnold as Mr. Freeze by not giving him goggles and a more exposed head/face, just like this.
I'm not really criticizing the teaser pic. I just think it's too early to say "oh, that thing sucks" or "OMG, that is fantastic. Nolan is my god. Better than the comic!" Personally I feel indifferent about it. I'm just excited about it being an official pic for a new Batman film.
If we didn't have any information about Bane appearing in TDKR or confirmation that Hardy would be playing him, I doubt everyone could guess exactly who this is supposed to be.
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yeah..the size issue is pretty dumb. according to the mighty internet:
Bale is 6'2"
Ledger is 6'1"
Caine is 6"2'
Freeman is 6'2"
So luscious and alfred are taller than joker, and are the same height as bruce.
So for bane to be 4 inches shorter than bruce! shocking!!
Its a movie...people always seem taller on screen because it isn't the same as seeing someone in person. Tom cruise doesn't ever look like a legal midget on film.
yeah..the size issue is pretty dumb. according to the mighty internet:
Bale is 6'2"
Ledger is 6'1"
Caine is 6"2'
Freeman is 6'2"
So luscious and alfred are taller than joker, and are the same height as bruce.
So for bane to be 4 inches shorter than bruce! shocking!!
Its a movie...people always seem taller on screen because it isn't the same as seeing someone in person. Tom cruise doesn't ever look like a legal midget on film.
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bale was never 6'2 hes 6'
bale was never 6'2 hes 6'
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He is a short mother ____er compared to Bale and how tall Bane is supposed to be but I doubt that will have any bearing on how he appears in the film.
I think Michael Keaton is the same height as Hardy and people criticized and said he was short to play Batman back in '89 too. In the actual films though it isn't evident that Batman is anything less than a "6 foot Bat".
Then there's the examples in the LOTR films with hobbits, men and dwarves and all that film shot trickery.
He is a short mother ____er compared to Bale and how tall Bane is supposed to be but I doubt that will have any bearing on how he appears in the film.
I think Michael Keaton is the same height as Hardy and people criticized and said he was short to play Batman back in '89 too. In the actual films though it isn't evident that Batman is anything less than a "6 foot Bat".
Then there's the examples in the LOTR films with hobbits, men and dwarves and all that film shot trickery.
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You guys don't think he should be any taller than Batman at all???
If they don't CGI him into a larger size I hope he is filmed to seem bigger with forced perspective. [Edit - as DiFabio refers to above.]
And what about the muscles? Think of how Bale bulks up for the movies. Surly BANE should be more muscular than that?
You guys don't think he should be any taller than Batman at all???
If they don't CGI him into a larger size I hope he is filmed to seem bigger with forced perspective. [Edit - as DiFabio refers to above.]
And what about the muscles? Think of how Bale bulks up for the movies. Surly BANE should be more muscular than that?
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I dunno, of Bane is shorter than Batman and still kicks his ass, doesn't that make him more of a badass?
Regardless of what the movie version turns out to be, I think the comic Bane is way overrated. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've got a huge wrestler taller than Batman and twice as wide, pumped up on super steroids who goes and breaks Batman's back after Batman fought a dozen villains for two or three days without sleep and while fighting a cold.
I dunno, of Bane is shorter than Batman and still kicks his ass, doesn't that make him more of a badass?
Regardless of what the movie version turns out to be, I think the comic Bane is way overrated. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've got a huge wrestler taller than Batman and twice as wide, pumped up on super steroids who goes and breaks Batman's back after Batman fought a dozen villains for two or three days without sleep and while fighting a cold.
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I think what void, wofford and people that aren't bothered by Hardy being short is that they assume that it will be taken care of in the film's production. Hence they're not bothered by it. Not that they wouldn't care if Bane is purposely portrayed as a 5'10 semi muscular opponent.
Maybe not though, I don't know.
That is a good point though Mag. If Hardy is left as is, with no manipulation to make it appear that Bane is a bigger guy than Batman (not Hulk big, but you know) then I'll have a problem.
I think what void, wofford and people that aren't bothered by Hardy being short is that they assume that it will be taken care of in the film's production. Hence they're not bothered by it. Not that they wouldn't care if Bane is purposely portrayed as a 5'10 semi muscular opponent.
Maybe not though, I don't know.
That is a good point though Mag. If Hardy is left as is, with no manipulation to make it appear that Bane is a bigger guy than Batman (not Hulk big, but you know) then I'll have a problem.
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I think Bane's height and mask (what? No Nacho Libre?) are the current equivalent of the Joker permawhite debate.
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I think Bane's height and mask (what? No Nacho Libre?) are the current equivalent of the Joker permawhite debate.
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But that was still definitively Joker. White face, red lips, green hair, purple suit. It would be the equivalence to Bane if Joker didn't have any make up and just had a scarred face.
Who knows though, once again, it's still too early to judge what it'll be like in the final film. He might have a mask, he might appear to be tall. Who knows.
Oh man, I can't wait to have a figure of that. I can see Batman palming Bane's head at arm's length while Bane swings away.
But that was still definitively Joker. White face, red lips, green hair, purple suit. It would be the equivalence to Bane if Joker didn't have any make up and just had a scarred face.
Who knows though, once again, it's still too early to judge what it'll be like in the final film. He might have a mask, he might appear to be tall. Who knows.
Yeah, you're right.
Oh man, I can't wait to have a figure of that. I can see Batman palming Bane's head at arm's length while Bane swings away.
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Nolan is a classic filmmaker, honestly they could have casted a midget in the role and on screen he'll look larger than life. After TDK, I have full faith in Nolan and Co. to the point so I'm just sitting back and just letting it unfold, getting all fanboy and geeky knowing that this is my last run and that it'll be a whole new game afterwards.
Nolan is a classic filmmaker, honestly they could have casted a midget in the role and on screen he'll look larger than life. After TDK, I have full faith in Nolan and Co. to the point so I'm just sitting back and just letting it unfold, getting all fanboy and geeky knowing that this is my last run and that it'll be a whole new game afterwards.
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Still a debate over comic accuracy ... and I'm not sure that has much relevance, particularly in the case of a downballot villain like Bane.
The thing is, Joker is an extremely culturally well-defined comic book villain, even among people who have never read a comic book. Perhaps the most well-defined aside from maybe Lex Luthor. And, even then, Nolan changed the Joker quite a bit ... few jokes, no permawhite, cut smile, etc.
Bane, like Ras before him, just isn't well defined culturally. Very few non-comic readers (a vocal minority) know who Bane is aside from the mouth-breathing hammerhead from Batman & Robin (which they're hoping to delete from memory). I think he may depart from the comic even a bit more than Joker did ... more along the lines of Ras.
So ... he's 5'9", and extremely muscular -- and wears some kind of ventilation thing rather than a wrestling mask.
I think we're bound for a significant redefinition of the character -- we'll get some of the core characteristics, but a lot of re-interpretation. But, like you said, time will tell.
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Still a debate over comic accuracy ... and I'm not sure that has much relevance, particularly in the case of a downballot villain like Bane.
The thing is, Joker is an extremely culturally well-defined comic book villain, even among people who have never read a comic book. Perhaps the most well-defined aside from maybe Lex Luthor. And, even then, Nolan changed the Joker quite a bit ... few jokes, no permawhite, cut smile, etc.
Bane, like Ras before him, just isn't well defined culturally. Very few non-comic readers (a vocal minority) know who Bane is aside from the mouth-breathing hammerhead from Batman & Robin (which they're hoping to delete from memory). I think he may depart from the comic even a bit more than Joker did ... more along the lines of Ras.
So ... he's 5'9", and extremely muscular -- and wears some kind of ventilation thing rather than a wrestling mask.
I think we're bound for a significant redefinition of the character -- we'll get some of the core characteristics, but a lot of re-interpretation. But, like you said, time will tell.
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