Devil_666
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Then he'd become.. oh wait.
Then he'd become.. oh wait.
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jye4ever
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
This shouldn't be a spoiler because I'm sure everyone has seen every last F'n thing regarding this movie
But just in case..
It looks like at some point in those 8 years he stopped being Batman. Which is why Gordon (on the hospital bed) tells him (Batman) to "come back".
I think Bruce would be too afraid to go to the movies after what happened with his parents. What if it happened to Alfred too?
Rackemup
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Why do we need a new suit? Why can't it be the same one? Batman at least in the comics would wear his suits for more than 8 years at a time...of course depending on a new artists taking him on just seems like a crazy thing to gripe on. If they give him a new one, cool...but I'm fine if it looks the same & they just added modifications.
Why do we need a new suit? Why can't it be the same one? Batman at least in the comics would wear his suits for more than 8 years at a time...of course depending on a new artists taking him on
just seems like a crazy thing to gripe on. If they give him a new one, cool...but I'm fine if it looks the same & they just added modifications.
jye4ever
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I call bull____ on a billionaire keeping the same costume for 8 years.
I'm piss ass broke yet I can't resist the urge to spend, spend, spend.
GTFO of here with that crap, no billionaire, not even Mr. ____ed up in the head himself, would not wear a new suit every month just because he could!
I call bull____ on a billionaire keeping the same costume for 8 years.
I'm piss ass broke yet I can't resist the urge to spend, spend, spend.
GTFO of here with that crap, no billionaire, not even Mr. ____ed up in the head himself, would not wear a new suit every month just because he could!
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Rackemup
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Haha you crack me up. "I call bs"
the suit can be modified but why not have it look the same if it works? Superman got away with the same suit and half the other heroes or characters dc/marvel, etc with or without money for more than 8 years. Just a thought.
Haha you crack me up. "I call bs"
the suit can be modified but why not have it look the same if it works?
Superman got away with the same suit and half the other heroes or characters dc/marvel, etc with or without money for more than 8 years. Just a thought.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Re: The Dark Knight Rises
That's because all other superheros are fake comic book characters, Batman is real, duh....
Haha you crack me up. "I call bs"
the suit can be modified but why not have it look the same if it works?
That's because all other superheros are fake comic book characters, Batman is real, duh....
Rackemup
Super Freak
Re: The Dark Knight Rises
be that as it may if the look of the suit works why change it? Just modify it. All I'm saying. Its alright if the look stays the same it ain't bad.
That's because all other superheros are fake comic book characters, Batman is real, duh....
be that as it may if the look of the suit works why change it? Just modify it. All I'm saying. Its alright if the look stays the same it ain't bad.
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Well that's all fine and dandy but going by what you said why did he bother updating his Batman Begins suit and modify it to what we have now?
Oh that's right, they gave Batman a reason for updating it,
"Bruce is a highly evolved guy, he's made himself so and he is constantly looking for innovative things and learning from his experiences as Batman. he's evolved and realizes that he needs to make modifications and continually upgrade his suit. The original had tremendous bulk and allowed him to withstand bullets and sharp knives and instruments."
- on the TDK suit
So, applying that logic, wouldn't Batman at least update his suit once after those 8 years? There's always a better version to be had and visually, it would change.
Haha you crack me up. "I call bs"
the suit can be modified but why not have it look the same if it works?
Well that's all fine and dandy but going by what you said why did he bother updating his Batman Begins suit and modify it to what we have now?
Oh that's right, they gave Batman a reason for updating it,
"Bruce is a highly evolved guy, he's made himself so and he is constantly looking for innovative things and learning from his experiences as Batman. he's evolved and realizes that he needs to make modifications and continually upgrade his suit. The original had tremendous bulk and allowed him to withstand bullets and sharp knives and instruments."
- on the TDK suit
So, applying that logic, wouldn't Batman at least update his suit once after those 8 years? There's always a better version to be had and visually, it would change.
Rackemup
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I'm really just speaking on look of it. Could the look of it not stay the same & still be amped up differently? I understand his change in TDK as it was pratical & needed.
I'm really just speaking on look of it. Could the look of it not stay the same & still be amped up differently? I understand his change in TDK as it was pratical & needed.
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Yeah but still, if that's the case, why didn't they just keep the Begins suit and make the necessary adjustments (like making the cowl/head more functional so it didn't restrict movement or making it more flexible) for TDK? Why change, for example the larger bat symbol to the tiny, almost unnoticeable one on the bat-bra? They could have retained much of the look of the Begins suit while making the necessary changes to make him more agile.
But no, they completely revised it. It wasn't just an upgrade, it was a brand spanking new suit. As far as story goes, it was only a year into Batman's career and he already needed to update to be faster, more agile, and less susceptible to . . . dog bites. So he ditches the Begins suit completely, just not the design but the whole look for an "upgrade".
Why would this not apply to the TDKR with TDK suit years later? Why would he not completely revise it to fit his practical needs like he did with the Begins version? Surely the TDK suit can't withstand hits from Bane after reading descriptions of him in TDKR? And yet, there is no suit change.
It's not like the TDK suit was flawless, in appearance and in function. I'm sure they could have worked out a few things like the design to make it better.
Yeah but still, if that's the case, why didn't they just keep the Begins suit and make the necessary adjustments (like making the cowl/head more functional so it didn't restrict movement or making it more flexible) for TDK? Why change, for example the larger bat symbol to the tiny, almost unnoticeable one on the bat-bra? They could have retained much of the look of the Begins suit while making the necessary changes to make him more agile.
But no, they completely revised it. It wasn't just an upgrade, it was a brand spanking new suit. As far as story goes, it was only a year into Batman's career and he already needed to update to be faster, more agile, and less susceptible to . . . dog bites. So he ditches the Begins suit completely, just not the design but the whole look for an "upgrade".
Why would this not apply to the TDKR with TDK suit years later? Why would he not completely revise it to fit his practical needs like he did with the Begins version? Surely the TDK suit can't withstand hits from Bane after reading descriptions of him in TDKR? And yet, there is no suit change.
It's not like the TDK suit was flawless, in appearance and in function. I'm sure they could have worked out a few things like the design to make it better.
Rackemup
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I should say, the look of the suit changed in TDK due to the need of movement & he added the cool sonar. But now that those changes have been done and he is more functional why couldn't the look he has stay as be improves the suit?
I should say, the look of the suit changed in TDK due to the need of movement & he added the cool sonar. But now that those changes have been done and he is more functional why couldn't the look he has stay as be improves the suit?
Rackemup
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We are assuming that because there hasn't been shown a new suit there may not be one, when in fact there very well could be. I'd hope he would advance his suit for bane... at least I did when I read knightfall when it came out.
But for this story we dont know nolans bane. I mean now he survives off vapors to take away pain. I still believe he is strong as ever but I'm taking into consideration I'm assuming just as much as all of us talking on this.
I just personally thought the look of the suit is great, if they can modify it and not change the look what's the harm in that? other than we don't get a new HT Batman with a spankin new suit. Which like everyone I wouldn't mind having if there is one 
We are assuming that because there hasn't been shown a new suit there may not be one, when in fact there very well could be. I'd hope he would advance his suit for bane... at least I did when I read knightfall when it came out.
But for this story we dont know nolans bane. I mean now he survives off vapors to take away pain. I still believe he is strong as ever but I'm taking into consideration I'm assuming just as much as all of us talking on this.
I just personally thought the look of the suit is great, if they can modify it and not change the look what's the harm in that? other than we don't get a new HT Batman with a spankin new suit. Which like everyone I wouldn't mind having if there is one
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Eh, there's always room for improvement and change. If they had the "make unnoticeable changes, keep the look the same" mentality we wouldn't even have the TDK suit.
With that said though, it's basically up to Nolan. He obviously loves the TDK suit. I recall him not being impressed with how the Begins one turned out, I believe he blamed the budget of the film. With the TDK suit it was basically the version that he always intended for Batman Begins but couldn't have since it wasn't possible at the time (2004, 2005). Once he got the as intended suit for TDK, he seems to have just went with it.
Oh well, I don't hate or dislike the TDK suit by any means but I've always looked forward to the change in appearance of Batman that's been going on for over 20 years with these films. It's like a tradition. New film, new suit, new Batman look that's the "face" and tone of the film. I'm sure the next inevitable Batman film suit will be different and possibly better.
Eh, there's always room for improvement and change. If they had the "make unnoticeable changes, keep the look the same" mentality we wouldn't even have the TDK suit.
With that said though, it's basically up to Nolan. He obviously loves the TDK suit. I recall him not being impressed with how the Begins one turned out, I believe he blamed the budget of the film. With the TDK suit it was basically the version that he always intended for Batman Begins but couldn't have since it wasn't possible at the time (2004, 2005). Once he got the as intended suit for TDK, he seems to have just went with it.
Oh well, I don't hate or dislike the TDK suit by any means but I've always looked forward to the change in appearance of Batman that's been going on for over 20 years with these films. It's like a tradition. New film, new suit, new Batman look that's the "face" and tone of the film. I'm sure the next inevitable Batman film suit will be different and possibly better.
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I think he has the same suit because he was on hiatus.... i mean you're not gonna shop around for a new suit if you're not crime fighting...
I think he has the same suit because he was on hiatus.... i mean you're not gonna shop around for a new suit if you're not crime fighting...
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Rackemup
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That's what I was prepping for after I wrote that haha
"Get the pitchforks and rope boys.. time for a lynching!"
That's what I was prepping for after I wrote that haha
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises
Been interesting reading some of the comments regarding the daylight concerns.
I'm asking this as a legitimate question: Can anyone here honestly say that they are comfortable or happy seeing Batman operating in Daylight?
That is, as opposed to being 'happy to accept it and/or justify it in this film just because it's Nolan'.
I'm not Nolan-bashing here, I love the majority of his films and BB/TDK were close to perfection in my eyes, I'm just interested in seeing how many people are actually happy to see Batman operating in daylight.
For me it's a whole-hearted no. Seeing Batman during the day just doesn't sit right with me and I don't think I could accept that he would still have an aura of menace and intimidation - some of the key things that make him who he is.
The only way I think I could be comfortable watching a scene like that would be if the intention of it was to purposefully jar the viewer - to take you totally out of your comfort zone seeing Batman fully exposed - like seeing a fish out of water, something that makes you emotional to the situation.
I'm not getting that impression in this film from what we've read in Nolan's comments. Those comments suggest that Batman has evolved in such a way that it's become acceptable or natural for him to opererate during the daytime - as opposed to, he's in an unnatural situation you would never normally see him and he doesn't want to be there, hope you feel bad for him viewers!
Of course, I could be misinterpreting the comments Nolan made, but that's my impression from the article.
Will it stop me from going to see the film? Hell no! No doubt I'm going to love the film too, but I'd still likely be uncomfortable seeing Batman in the day.
Been interesting reading some of the comments regarding the daylight concerns.
I'm asking this as a legitimate question: Can anyone here honestly say that they are comfortable or happy seeing Batman operating in Daylight?
That is, as opposed to being 'happy to accept it and/or justify it in this film just because it's Nolan'.
I'm not Nolan-bashing here, I love the majority of his films and BB/TDK were close to perfection in my eyes, I'm just interested in seeing how many people are actually happy to see Batman operating in daylight.
For me it's a whole-hearted no. Seeing Batman during the day just doesn't sit right with me and I don't think I could accept that he would still have an aura of menace and intimidation - some of the key things that make him who he is.
The only way I think I could be comfortable watching a scene like that would be if the intention of it was to purposefully jar the viewer - to take you totally out of your comfort zone seeing Batman fully exposed - like seeing a fish out of water, something that makes you emotional to the situation.
I'm not getting that impression in this film from what we've read in Nolan's comments. Those comments suggest that Batman has evolved in such a way that it's become acceptable or natural for him to opererate during the daytime - as opposed to, he's in an unnatural situation you would never normally see him and he doesn't want to be there, hope you feel bad for him viewers!
Of course, I could be misinterpreting the comments Nolan made, but that's my impression from the article.
Will it stop me from going to see the film? Hell no! No doubt I'm going to love the film too, but I'd still likely be uncomfortable seeing Batman in the day.
intothevoid
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I'm actually pretty comfortable and open to seeing him in the day personally
I'm actually pretty comfortable and open to seeing him in the day personally
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