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Football scene doesn't bother me one bit :dunno

Actually, I think it looks cool with those dudes falling into the hole.

The last player to go in the hole looks like he drops through the ground before the ground actually collapses
 
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Looking at the trailer,

Bane definitely injures Bats after the 8 years. He's graying in the shot he's on the floor.

I still think it's going to be epic even though the trailer doesn't give much away. About anything.
I think if the football scene were made to look like night, not as many would have a problem with it.
 
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Going to see these movies at the cinema are the Bane of my life.
 
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I liked it. From the somber National Anthem opening...to the memorial for Harvey at Wayne Manor...to the judge telling the police captain that the mayor is going to dump Gordon because he's a "war" hero, and now is "peacetime"...to Selina's warning...the entire first minute does a pretty good job of showing that things have become just a little too comfortable in Gotham since the end of TDK. That sense of complacency makes the city an easier target.

I think it's good that we don't even see costumed Batman in it until well into the second minute...when we get a sense of the threat that he, and the city, face.

I was thinking of the eight-year gap between TDK and TDKR too. Depending on the restrictions inherent in Nolan's story, that provides a LOT of time for expanded-universe type adventures. I wouldn't be surprised to at least see a few comics by DC showing what's been happening with Bruce and Gotham between the two movies. Maybe we can even get an animated mini-series or something out of it (a bit bigger in scope, and longer in duration than "Gotham Knight").
 
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The rest is mediocre to me. I still don't feel comfortable with the whole Heinz field/Steelers crap, even after I gave it a chance with this trailer. It's not about the special effects it's just the fact that it's included.

The kvetching about this scene is bemusing to me. One of my absolute favorite moments from "Superman Returns" is the scene where Supes saves a plane full of people - on a baseball diamond, in front of a stunned/cheering crowd. It doesn't get more Americana than that, this might as well have been painted by Norman Rockwell. Mom, apple pie, and a quintessentially just (to the point of being naive) American comic icon saving the day. That one scene almost makes the entire film worthwhile. The football scene from TDKR seems like the flip side of that coin. Batman is about the dark side of the human soul, the rot and corruption - the great lie of it all, with a misunderstood, shadowy figure as the only savior. Seems fitting that the guy running a terrorist organization, who wants to strike out at the ills of modern life and "level the playing field" would - literally - level the playing field. Imagine if, in reality, terrorists wanted to simply get everyone's attention by blowing up the Superbowl...and then announced that the real fun is yet to come. The reaction would be shock, horror, abject panic.


I also dislike the "theme" of the film. It feels very liberal too me. The whole "robin hood" message that the trailer is trying to get across about how the rich are bad and the poor will rise isn't my cup of tea. When I think BATMAN I don't think anti-capitalism. I fully expect this film to be preachy and frankly, that's not something I want to see.

Huh? That's what you got out of that trailer? That's not the "theme" of the film, that's the motivation for Selina Kyle's character. She wouldn't make a very good cat burglar if she felt bad for the rich, now would she? Saying that her take on things indicates that this will be a preachy, anti-capitalist film is a little like saying that "Inglorious Basterds" is anti-Semitic because it has Nazis in it. Of course, there's the League of Shadows angle as well, but they seem to get their panties in a bunch over any one (corrupt?) group having too much power over another, not specifically capitalism, per se. It'll actually be interesting to see how the dynamics of Wayne/Batman and Kyle plays out.

I was hoping this film would delve deeper into the psyche of Bruce Wayne and Batman, not focus on his need to be involved with philanthropy and "giving back to the people".

We've had two films worth of that and I'm sure this film will be no different. I'm also pretty sure it'll probably take itself a little too seriously, just like the other flicks...

Oh, and it's Kyle who steals from the rich and - gives back to no one. Wayne IS rich.

Just with the end of TDK and the start of this teaser it's like they're trying to move away from Batman and make the character look like a literal bad guy.

We (the audience) know better. Isn't that enough?

Why can't Batman, you know, like being Batman?

Like any good cop, he's trying to work himself out of a job. No crime = no need for Batman/cops. And like any good cop, he knows that will never happen. He will always have to fight sociopaths on the magnitude of Scarecrow, the Joker, et al, and they will always have innocent victims, despite his best efforts. He will never have a "normal" life, he will always need to be Batman, despite whatever 'selfish' desire he may have for things to be otherwise. That's a pretty big burden, and a pretty sophisticated take on the character.

The character has always been obsessed with this war on crime why does Bruce Wayne constantly view it as being a burden and something that should be temporary? I thought Begins established that "Bruce Wayne" was his mask?

See above.
 
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Why did you just dissect my post? It's just my ____ing opinion damn it.
 
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Why did you just dissect my post? It's just my ____ing opinion damn it.

I know, wasn't meaning to be a jerk, was just presenting an opposing interpretation. Point/counterpoint, like debate. Honestly not meant to be personal DiFabio, I usually agree with your opinion on many things, we just came away with 2 entirely different takes on the trailer.:peace
 
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Yeah, there are many interpretations of what Batman is, and how Batman *should* be represented. It's not personal, no one is "wrong" per say, some of us are just more right.....KIDDING!!

That said, I agree with a lot of it, especially this part:

Like any good cop, he's trying to work himself out of a job. No crime = no need for Batman/cops. And like any good cop, he knows that will never happen. He will always have to fight sociopaths on the magnitude of Scarecrow, the Joker, et al, and they will always have innocent victims, despite his best efforts. He will never have a "normal" life, he will always need to be Batman, despite whatever 'selfish' desire he may have for things to be otherwise. That's a pretty big burden, and a pretty sophisticated take on the character.

I don't think that being Batman is like being Superman, or Spider-man, or any other popular superhero...there is very little that is fun about it...very hard to like something when you feel like you have to give up a normal life to do it, not because someone is forcing you to, but because you yourself are compelled to it.

Like the quote in Rachel's letter to Bruce (and it's not verbatim, mistype police!): "The day may come when Gotham doesn't need Batman, but the day won't come when YOU don't need Batman"
 
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I thought this trailer was horrible, nothing in it made me want to see this picture. Poorly executed, it doesn't do it's job, which is to entice the audience into seeing the film.

Having said that, I am anticipating the release of the movie not based on this trailer but based on the quality of the first two installments.
 
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My favorite shots from the trailer (Not including the scene between Alfred and Bruce, but that'd make a boring gif:):
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90 Hi-res screen caps of the trailer: https://thefilmstage.com/news/90-high-resolution-images-from-the-dark-knight-rises/

It's definitely Bruce with a cane:
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trailer music.
 
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I also dislike the "theme" of the film. It feels very liberal too me. The whole "robin hood" message that the trailer is trying to get across about how the rich are bad and the poor will rise isn't my cup of tea. When I think BATMAN I don't think anti-capitalism. I fully expect this film to be preachy and frankly, that's not something I want to see.

I was hoping this film would delve deeper into the psyche of Bruce Wayne and Batman, not focus on his need to be involved with philanthropy and "giving back to the people".

I can understand not liking this subject being addressed too much, but my interpretation of the trailer dialogue is that this film is a continuation of Batman Begins.

Maybe it's bad of the trailer to highlight it so much as it makes it seem like it may be a huge part of the film, and maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but this "theme" was there in Begins.

Gotham went downhill because the wealthy rose to power and became disassociated with those with less and forced harsh times and a depression on the poor and low income, thus leading to all the crime that caused the death of Bruce's parents. His parents were the only ones who really seemed to try and do something to benefit the people who were without. When it came time for Bruce to take action and become Batman, he looked to his parents as a model for what needed to be done.

Ra's was very clear about what he felt needed to be done, Gotham needed to fall and be built up all over again, Bruce challenged him that it could be saved.

I think what this film may address is that both Batman and Bruce Wayne are heroes to Gotham, but so far, Bruce has only acted as Batman. I think they may explore Bruce realizing, yes, Batman can clean up the villainy, but unless he helps to remove the poverty as Bruce Wayne, there will always be crime to fight, and no matter what there will be, but the problems of Gotham need to fought from both angles to really achieve anything.
 
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