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Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Two Face is not returning.

The script confirmed his death and Aaron Eckhart has given interviews recently about his opinions on not returning.
 
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Two Face is not returning.

The script confirmed his death and Aaron Eckhart has given interviews recently about his opinions on not returning.

You might be right.

But ... you might be wrong. They didn't read that part of the script aloud during the movie, so I'm not sure the script itself answers anything except their intent at the time (when the Joker was expected to return). The on-screen depiction was ambiguous enough to allow wiggle-room (maybe intentionally so).

If Hardy can't release who he's playing, one would expect Eckhart would remain silent until given the go-ahead.

SnakeDoc
 
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I assumed from the get-go that Harvey Dent, but not Two-Face, was dead. I also assumed Eckhart would return for sequels.
 
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I heard...

Rachel will be returning as Hush.

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WHAT !!!!!!!! no riddler !!!!!!

Nolan i am disappointed.
 
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For what its worth, from the LA Times ...

As for the title, it shows the writer-director’s intention to keep his Bruce Wayne trilogy tightly stitched together. “We’ll use many of the same characters as we have all along, and we’ll be introducing some new ones,” Nolan said cryptically. I had an odd thought: What if Nolan somehow brings back Harvey Dent? The only reason I even mention it is because, back during post-production on the second film, Nolan told me that the title “The Dark Knight” was just as much about Dent and his fall from the status of shining-knight civic crusader. Dent was plainly dead at the end of the last film, though, and Nolan has been intent on keeping his Gotham City film firmly rooted in a gritty gangland realism– this isn’t a franchise that has veered off into the supernatural or even much super-science.

https://herocomplex.latimes.com/201...-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/

If the title "The Dark Knight" was a reference to the fall of Harvey Dent ... it isn't out of the realm of possibility that "The Dark Knight Rises" would refer to the same. Eckhart's recent quotes indicated he'd be happy sitting this one out, but previous quotes have indicated he'd be willing to reprise the role if asked. Not sure that helps.

Personally, I doubt it ... but its possible. Still leaves me wondering who he was talking about for the returning cast.

SnakeDoc
 
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For what its worth, from the LA Times ...



https://herocomplex.latimes.com/201...-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/

Eckhart's recent quotes indicated he'd be happy sitting this one out, but previous quotes have indicated he'd be willing to reprise the role if asked. Not sure that helps.

Personally, I doubt it ... but its possible. Still leaves me wondering who he was talking about for the returning cast.

SnakeDoc

Bale, Freeman, Caine, Oldman
 
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Black Mask makes perfect sense, he's realistic, has a history with Bruce, parents had a history with Thomas and Martha, can be a competitor physically and financially, and fills the gap in organised crime. Tom Hardy who was already cast would fit into that type of role much better then any of the other villains left not ruled out. Plus Mask has a history with Catwoman if they decide to include her.
 
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Black Mask makes perfect sense, he's realistic, has a history with Bruce, parents had a history with Thomas and Martha, can be a competitor physically and financially, and fills the gap in organised crime. Tom Hardy who was already cast would fit into that type of role much better then any of the other villains left not ruled out. Plus Mask has a history with Catwoman if they decide to include her.

I would rather see him play Hush
 

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Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Black Mask makes perfect sense, he's realistic, has a history with Bruce, parents had a history with Thomas and Martha,

If they just write that in I won't consider it canon to Begins and The Dark Knight. That would be as bad as Sandman being the accidental murder of Uncle Ben in Spider-Man 3.

I could see them doing it though. "OHHHH, ROMAN WAS WAYNE'S OLD CHILDHOOD FRIEND. BRUCE WAS UPSET WHEN RACHEL HAD A CRUSH ON LITTLE ROMAN AND THEIR PARENTS AND ALFRED THOUGHT IT WAS CUTE. PARENTS KNEW EACH OTHER. YEAH." No.
 
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Why Deadshot? That's not historically an important Bat-villain. I know he was in that anime cartoon, but you guys think that's gonna influence Nolan? I suspect some variations of Penguin, Catwoman, and Egghead.

I have no idea who the Black Mask is. Spin-off from "the Mask" comic when he possesses a black guy?

Black Mask is kinda a "super mob boss" more or less.

With the type of Villain/universe that Nolan Favors, he's the likely choice.

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I think there's certainly a possibility of Ra's retunring - I don't believe for a second that he died in Begins, and I thought that was a cool nod to his comic book immortality, I don't think he's dead and it would be very cool to see him return, and Talia make an appearance.
 
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Since Nolan seems to favor the organized crime element of the Bat verse I agree Black Mask seems like a good choice.

I can't imagine Hush in that continuity. That story is ludicrously contrived even in the comic universe.

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Or I could have just said
Black Mask is kinda a "super mob boss" more or less.

With the type of Villain/universe that Nolan Favors, he's the likely choice.

:lol

I type slowly. :(
 
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Not sure why everyone keeps bringing up Ras Al Ghul...he's definitely dead...unless of course, he can stop himself from falling out of an open train cart, falling a thousand feet to the ground, while also dodging a massive explosion. Would be funny though, if he came back in 'Rises' and does the same thing to Bruce Wayne..."You burned my house, and left me for dead...twice, consider us even":lol

Two-Face, I was hoping they wouldn't kill him off, so they can bridge his story of redemption in the third sequel, thats what was going through my mind in the theatres the night I saw the movie. I though "wow, how cool of a story, I can't wait to see how bad Two-Face gets in the next one'. But unfortunately they decided to go in a different direction. Doesn't make sense to tell you the truth. Perfect opportunity to build Two Face as a great villain, he didn't get enough screen time in TDK. As for Scarecrow, he's a major let-down as far as 'villain' goes. It' be cool to do the rendition of the Arkham Asylum Scarecrow but that ain't happening any time soon either!

I don't know about Black Mask...yeah it would be original to do something new for once, but how cool can they make a guy look with a black mask on? I don't think he'll have a chance against Batman unless he has his machine gun handy. Croc I can see. Scarface, I can see them doing a small scene with. But Catwoman could, and should be, the main interest of the story. And in the Nolan universe, I think they would do a really good job building the relationship between Selena, and Bruce.
 
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If it is indeed Black Mask, that's too bad. Certainly not the villain to follow up with after the likes of the Joker. I mean, I don't expect and really never expect the "next one" to even touch TDK's Joker but Black Mask? Come on.

I thought it was always about escalation.

1.) Mob/Organized crime
2.) Enter Batman
3.) Mob begins to crumble, one block at a time
4.) City inspired by Batman
5.) Things change, forever. Mob begins to fall apart

6.) Enter the Joker
7.) Rise of the freaks
8.) Crime is associated with mostly crazed, psychotic villains

With Black Mask you go back to the fallen Mob empire that the Joker COMPLETELY obliterated which makes the Joker's efforts and plans and mostly the whole plot of TDK seemingly pointless.

Falcone, Maroni, Gambol, from the Dark Knight, the mob bosses like Grissom and Rotelli from the first Batman film have all established the organized crime element in Batman on film, I think it's time to move on.

Another suit in a mask that has a touch of the crazies who just happens to be a mob boss is just too repetitive for me. That and audiences will probably think of Red Skull from Captain America after they see the film. Their appearances are way too similar.
 
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Newsflash people. Two-face is dead. The Dark Knight was not Inception, there is no maybe he somehow... hes dead.

Ras is dead. I don't care how many times anyone comes back in the comics this is Chris Nolan and realistic Batman.

A human being is not surviving a train wreck and explosion.

The only way to have Ras back would be to have the idea of him living on in another person and thus another actor other then Liam Neeson which would be stupid.
 
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