The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[MANDO]

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And that's why Black Mask is ideal. He is a sadistic bastard looking only to augment his powerbase. I think he's the ultimate mobster.

Multiple villains has been my take since TDK ended. I don't think any one could serve adequately, and if it is to centralize around one of them, Black Mask would be the one capable of inspiring the necessary fear.

I'm gonna beat the dead horse one last time and say that Two-Face could've filled those shoes perfectly. Especially if he were really secretly orchestrating both sides of the turf war.

Okay I'm done.

 

[MANDO]

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It's too bad movies can't be 5 hours long. At this point, we'd already be 10 hours in and the story would be so huge that anyone could fit into it.

^^^^ This. This is true. One day a producer is going to convince WB to grow a pair and make Batman tv show with the caliber of this stuff.

 

[devilof76]

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Maybe they'll learn something from The Walking Dead.

I'm gonna beat the dead horse one last time and say that Two-Face could've filled those shoes perfectly. Especially if he were really secretly orchestrating both sides of the turf war.

Okay I'm done.

You're right.

 

[Reinhardt]

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The latest I heard was that Tom Hardy was going to be playing Killer Croc. If this is true, it is BADASS. Let's see...

 

[SnakeDoctor]

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Killer Croc is a badass villain. Not sure how it would fit in with the Nolan movies, but, if Nolan is on board there must be a plan.

SnakeDoc

 

[Sachiel]

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Black mask will still never be the joker even if he's in the movie.

You say that now. But wait till...

Spoiler

the end where after Batman throws Black Mask off a building to his death. He takes off Black Mask's... mask and it's actually Heath Ledger painted up as The Joker!

 

[OSCORP]

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Not a Batman fan. Liked the first one, second one was ok. Interested in the third a bit. I'm sure batfans are excited as hell though.

 

[Sachiel]

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The latest I heard was that Tom Hardy was going to be playing Killer Croc. If this is true, it is BADASS. Let's see...

A guy with a very bad skin condition?

 

[Moonloop]

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A bit disappointed by the title choice. As the first and second film had different titles I was expecting another unique title for the final and third film, but whatever it's the film that counts not the title.

 

[daikkenaurora]

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title is a bit gay

 

[The Entity]

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Anyone think that the Scarecrow might have a bigger role again in this? He has been featured in the 2 previous films already, even though it was only a small part in TDK, Nolan might have done that to keep him in the minds of people, to give him a bigger part in this one again

 

[scarecrow jim]

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Anyone think that the Scarecrow might have a bigger role again in this? He has been featured in the 2 previous films already, even though it was only a small part in TDK, Nolan might have done that to keep him in the minds of people, to give him a bigger part in this one again

I hope so, obviously not as the main villian but i hope he gets a bigger part to play than he did in the TDK.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

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Anyone think that the Scarecrow might have a bigger role again in this? He has been featured in the 2 previous films already, even though it was only a small part in TDK, Nolan might have done that to keep him in the minds of people, to give him a bigger part in this one again

I really hope not. I thought Scarecrow was a pretty weak villain in BB ... and he was even less imposing in TDK. Murphy is a good actor, and it was well-played ... but there was never the threat-level from Scarecrow that there was from Two-Face, Ras or Joker.

If the overall theme of TDK was "escalation" -- what purpose is there in going backward? At least if Two Face returns, it is a continuation from an ongoing and threatening villain. Scarecrow was a two-bit drug dealer in TDK, and took all of 30 seconds to capture and turn over to authorities. The point in showing him that way was to show that he was old news ... no longer a threat, and that there were much bigger and badder criminals out there now.

SnakeDoc

 

[ProgMatinee]

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At the end of Begins Joker was setup for the 2nd film. At the end of TDK Batman himself was setup to be the villian for the 3rd film. In order for the flow to work the only villian that would make sense is one that takes the law into their own hands trying to do Batmans job while the entire city is still hating on Bats. Of course Batman would have to step in and right the ship once the boundaries were pushed too far and lines got crossed by whomever was filling in. I think it was already hinted at the beginning of TDK as well when Batman has to stop the imposter Batmen from crossing the line.

I agree that Batman is the villian to start the 3rd film, I can also go with an imposter, being that the imposter is a crony of The Riddler and is part of a greater plan.

My synopsis is this:

1)Batman is blamed for the death of Harvey Dent and further events brought on by an imposter (Black Mask or other) increase the tension against Batman.

2)The Riddler posing as Ed Nygma an environmental activist/politician type sabotages Wayne Industries and causes some type of massive environmental disaster in Gotham (say releasing Wayne Industries invented biological warfare weapon into the cities water supply). Ed Nygma then goes on the war path to completely ruin and villify Bruce Wayne meanwhile FURTHER destroying Gotham by closing down WI, the cities primary employer and by far biggest tax payer and philantropist.

These events create a double jeapordy situation in which BOTH Batman AND Bruce Wayne are public enemy #1 and #1A.

3)The film plays out as a redemption story for both Batman and Bruce Wayne as he exposes the imposter vigalante as well as exposing the Riddler as the cause of the environmental disaster.

 

[intothevoid]

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uhh. Didn't you get the memo?

Riddler will not appear.

 

[ProgMatinee]

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no didn't read the memo... was that the reason for the 3 new pages?

 

[intothevoid]

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Lol dude, go back a few pages, Nolan announced in an interview that the title will be The Dark Knight Rises and that Riddler will not appear in it.

 

[ProgMatinee]

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eh. don't really trust gossip, even from the horses mouth until it happens. in any case, substitute another "mastermind" type villian in my synopsis and its pretty much the same. the crux to my vision is that both Batman and Bruce Wayne need to be hated by Gotham otherwise Bruce Wayne could simply brush the criticism against Batman to the side by laying low or assuming a different symbol. Bruce Wayne himself must be threatened in order for this to be a true redemption film.

 

[Deckard]

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eh. don't really trust gossip, even from the horses mouth until it happens. in any case, substitute another "mastermind" type villian in my synopsis and its pretty much the same. the crux to my vision is that both Batman and Bruce Wayne need to be hated by Gotham otherwise Bruce Wayne could simply brush the criticism against Batman to the side by laying low or assuming a different symbol. Bruce Wayne himself must be threatened in order for this to be a true redemption film.

Good for Black Mask and/or Coleman Reese. Reese will likely be a problem since Bat's rep is in the gutter and Joker isn't around to kill him anymore. People aren't just going to forget this guy knows who he is and almost spilled the beans.

And the more I think about it the more I'm worried there may not be a Batcave. Would it really make sense for Bruce who could end up a suspect as Batman in Harvey's murder to keep Batman related stuff in or under his home?

 

[intothevoid]

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Hmmm no don't say that. We need a new and improved Batcave man!