The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[DiFabio]

Yeah, that was quick. I think he took it down because he noticed a typo or added more to it. Not sure.

It was lolz, he'll probably put it back up.

 

[Devil_666]

Sizing was off.

 

[ZaCHw117]

 

[Kibagami]

We've seen from the animated series that Mr. Freeze can be done seriously and can be an emotionally gripping sympathetic character. It's weird to think that he just wrote them all off like "UNREALISTIC. NO WAY." I did like what he said about Riddler being a Joker rip off though in that Empire article from the fall.

Yeah, I had TAS in mind; I think Nolan could have done a lot with that.

 

[intothevoid]

Alfred is possibly the greatest thing about these films

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

And let me clarify...I like the Riddler. I only like that Nolan wrote him off so quickly just because the hyper fanboys wanted him SO badly to be the next villain.

 

[intothevoid]

Yes i definitely think Victor Fries, Penguin, Black Mask and Deadshot could all have been adapted really well for the Nolan films. But there's only so many villains you can have in 3 films - I've been very happy with the ones he's chosen

Who knows maybe we get a cameo ala Zsasz in TDKR

 

[DarkMagic]

I'm in this for Batman. Been that way since the beginning. I have no problem saying I didn't know who the hell the director was in Batman Begins. It wasn't until the DVD special features that I started to know more about Nolan.

If it wasn't for Batman these guys wouldn't be successful and couldn't make their little expressive films with their sensibilities and styles. Burton and Nolan. Not picking on them or ripping their work but Batman is bigger than both of them. A character with 73 years of history under their belt will do that.

I've got to take issue with this statement. You seem to be implying that these guys are dependent on the fame that working on Batman films has brought to their career. Of course, working on a huge superhero movie franchise certainly helps a director and his other films become more recognized, but he wouldn't have been allowed within ten feet of that franchise in the first place if someone didn't recognize some skill and potential in his previous work. Both Nolan and Burton had films that achieved critical success before WB gave them the keys to the Batmobile. Even Schumacher, the most hated-by-fans "Bat" director, showed that he was successful and competent as a "general" director with other films.

Of course Batman is technically "bigger" than them. For one, it is unlikely that you'd find a director with a 73-year long body of work. Second of all, Batman, the character/concept/idea is not where the credit lies for that longevity as a character. It is the impact of the creators over those 73 years, the fingerprints of everyone who has touched the character from Bob Kane and Bill Finger, through Denny O'Neil and Frank Miller right up to...yes, Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan, and everyone in between...that have shaped the character and kept him popular and relevant for so long. If anything, Batman is more dependent on the creators that work on him than they are on him. Regardless of whether or not you would have been interested in a director that hasn't worked on Batman, it's still entirely possible for him to have big success just based on his own merits as a director with other films (i.e. Spielberg, Tarantino, Scorsese, Fincher, Coen...etc). However, Batman as a character, is nothing without the writers, artists, and film directors that keep him in the public consciousness.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Deadshot would have worked perfectly for these films. The only Gotham Knight story I liked was the one with Deadshot.

 

[DiFabio]

Well there was that rumor floating around the time it was shot in LA that a bunch of people were cast for small, "iconic" comic roles . . .

 

[intothevoid]

I heard the rumour but will not be expecting to see anything of that sort when I go in

If there do end up being some cameos, it will be a very pleasant surprise

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

There's never been a comic book movie that was successful BECAUSE of the director choice. The Raimi Spiderman films really put that guy on the map. Sure he was popular because of Evil Dead, but now people know his name. It's the same deal with Nolan and it was the same deal with Burton. Comic book movies have high expectations and a lot of fans. Whoever directs them should jump at the opportunity to truly bolster their career.

And when you hand a Superhero film over to a bad director (coughsmanofsteel) then the fans immediately get worried.

 

[BB&WSF]

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

Well there was that rumor floating around the time it was shot in LA that a bunch of people were cast for small, "iconic" comic roles . . .

there is one nice cameo from a minor BTAS character...but it can remain a surprise

 

[DiFabio]

"Why don't you show them what an overdose can do?"

 

[intothevoid]

I dont think Snyder is a bad director, but I'm not sold on him that is for sure

MoS could be right up his alley though - it's about time WB recognised that audiences want to see a Superman freakin smash

 

[DarkMagic]

There's never been a comic book movie that was successful BECAUSE of the director choice. The Raimi Spiderman films really put that guy on the map. Sure he was popular because of Evil Dead, but now people know his name. It's the same deal with Nolan and it was the same deal with Burton. Comic book movies have high expectations and a lot of fans. Whoever directs them should jump at the opportunity to truly bolster their career.

And when you hand a Superhero film over to a bad director (coughsmanofsteel) then the fans immediately get worried.

I'd argue that Batman Begins was successful because of the director choice.

Just like Batman and Robin is a critical failure because of the director.

Of course, in both cases, the director is not the only factor, but there is never just one factor, and the director bears most of the responsibility for the final vision of the film....failure or success...it's on him.

 

[Deckard]

There's never been a comic book movie that was successful BECAUSE of the director choice.

Favreau, w/o him there is no RDJ as Iron Man, thus no Iron Man.

And if not for that I would have never watched Cap, Thor, or the Avengers. For the money they made from me, Marvel owes him everything.

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

I'd argue that Batman Begins was successful because of the director choice.

Just like Batman and Robin is a critical failure because of the director.

Of course, in both cases, the director is not the only factor, but there is never just one factor, and the director bears most of the responsibility for the final vision of the film....failure or success...it's on him.

No one knew who Nolan was prior to Begins. There's been this great "awakening" of teenage film nerds on the internet in the past few years now that all these film sites are popping up and people are starting to appreciate indie cinema, but Memento was largely unknown by mainstream audiences prior to Begins.

 

[InspectorSpacetime]

Favreau, w/o him there is no RDJ as Iron Man, thus no Iron Man.

And if not for that I would have never watched Cap, Thor, or the Avengers. For the money they made from me, Marvel owes him everything.

yeah but did you watch Iron Man solely because Happy Hogan directed it?