That gag worked best with Freeman's line as the finale. Scene done. You didn't really need the Joker's bounty, nor the Lamborghini save.
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That gag worked best with Freeman's line as the finale. Scene done. You didn't really need the Joker's bounty, nor the Lamborghini save.
I guess like Gordon Nolan pretends not to remember the Internal Affairs nickname. 
intothevoid
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BS, TDK needed another half hour at the very least!
Maybe another 15 mins would have been enough too
BS, TDK needed another half hour at the very least!
Maybe another 15 mins would have been enough too
I think wor-gar was is onto something though, the time wasted on Reese could have been spent making Harvey's fall from grace slow down and make more sense, I still don't get where Gordon's math at the end comes from, we don't see as many kills as he mentions.
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Yeah maybe, but the way I saw that Reese thing was just a transition to get the Joker into a hospital alone with Dent, to complete his transformation.
We definitely did need a slow down in Harvey's fall from grace though, and some sort of flashback to show us why he was known as Harvey 'Two Face' in Internal Affairs wouldn't have hurt either.
On the name, one can surmise that Dent was so determined to 'get his man' that he appeared to 'turn' on his own. Hence the Two-face jabs.
That determination can easily get derailed into vigilante acts, as is seen in the film. Don't need to see a flash back. Almost never need a flash back if the writing is good enough.
That determination can easily get derailed into vigilante acts, as is seen in the film. Don't need to see a flash back. Almost never need a flash back if the writing is good enough.
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I'm not sure about the final cut of the film losing 45 minutes. Nolan doesn't typically have much in the way of deleted scenes. He plans very carefully and doesn't waste time and money filming a bunch of stuff if he isn't confident that it is needed. He doesn't seem like the kind of director who just shoots everything and then discovers the film during the editing process.
The heart of Harvey's fall almost feels like they got to the bar and though, oh ____, we're already at 2 hours we gotta wrap this up quick . It works fine ultimately, but with so much emphasis on him being Gotham's White Knight and how he couldn't stand up to the evil plaguing the city, spending more time with him going over to the dark would have been nice.
. It works fine ultimately, but with so much emphasis on him being Gotham's White Knight and how he couldn't stand up to the evil plaguing the city, spending more time with him going over to the dark would have been nice.
Nolan saw Lucas' epic 'turn to the dark side' moment in ROTS too many times.
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Well we're just going on heresy. I would HIIIGHLY doubt that anything close to that was/has been cut from the initial cut.
We don't know if the first cut was 3hrs, 3.5hrs or the same 2hrs 45mins
Similarly, I don't know if the 2hrs 45mins is a final confirmed runtime
The heart of Harvey's fall almost feels like they got to the bar and though, oh ____, we're already at 2 hours we gotta wrap this up quick
I admit I hate that Nolan does that, he underuses characters, the same happened with Scarecrow, Not as Bad of course, but, he was barely there as the scarecrow, plus the ending with him in the horse was pathetic, I Hate that about BB, how pathetic that was handled, it was really bad
Two face was barely there, I know within the story it made sense, but, both of them were not used correctly, I always wish Scarecrow made a bigger impact in BB, besides being Ras errand boy
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Scarecrows ending was actually perfectly fine. That ending in BB plus the scene in TDK is there to basically show us that he's small fish. Its there to demonstrate the theme of escalation
yeah but Rachel defeating him... that was so lame though, he deserved better, at least punched by Batman
I think Nolan's Scarecrow works fine in his films, he's a threat, but not on his own, he's a tool for others, a puppet. In Begins he was Ra's and Falconi's _____, in TDK, he needed the other crime bosses to push his drugs, he himself did nothing.
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I really don't see Scarecrow as being an A-lister. How he was utilized in BB was perfect. I mean if you're gonna have him as the main baddie and do a detective-type horror/thriller story, having Batman investigating who's doing the gassing (with possibly Wayne seeing Crane to add to the drama) it would still be a "meh" movie and possibly a worthy 5th or 6th sequel. It was a bigger travesty that two of the richer and most developed villains, 2-Face and Joker, were hodgepodged together and diluted as a result.
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Definitely not clicking
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