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I think you need to put this in spoiler quotes because you just described the entire movie well the way I see it, it all started with the Joker, the chaos, the destruction in Dark Knight at times was almost war like, Joker was a terrorist, I see this movie as the evolution of the story, you couldn't go small after a movie like Dark Knight, plus being the end and having Bane it had to end with a bang, and had to end with Bane releasing the prisoners from prison and creating more chaos for batman, isn't that how part of the comic goes as well?
plus nolan is dealing with other real issues here, I think is fine
we already had Batman Begins, what would be the point of another movie like that? Nolan wouldn't repeat himself
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Fantastic trailer! One month to go 
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well the way I see it, it all started with the Joker, the chaos, the destruction in Dark Knight at times was almost war like, Joker was a terrorist, I see this movie as the evolution of the story, you couldn't go small after a movie like Dark Knight, plus being the end and having Bane it had to end with a bang, and had to end with Bane releasing the prisoners from prison and creating more chaos for batman, isn't that how part of the comic goes as well?
plus nolan is dealing with other real issues here, I think is fine
we already had Batman Begins, what would be the point of another movie like that? Nolan wouldn't repeat himself
That's all stuff in the trailers
It's the bigger war aspect that I don't like. The Bat blowing up tumblers? I thought Batman didn't kill people? I dunno - Like I said - I hope it is good - it just feels like a jumbled mess to me. The stakes in BB were HUGE - Actually the same thing as TDKR - the destruction of Gotham, but the Tone was dead on for Batman IMO. This is like The Siege with Batman thrown in. Again, I just hope it's not being epic for epic's sake. That's just a crap load of fluff for nothing.
Hoping for the best.
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Isn't it actually a good thing that you haven't figured out the whole plot before actually seeing the movie?
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Isn't it actually a good thing that you haven't figured out the whole plot before actually seeing the movie?
Absolutely - I have no desire to know everything about any film before I watch it. But if your going to release a loose linear trailer that doesn't make sense
I just think all they have shown are strings of nice looking scenes that do not do the film any favors by making it look scattered IMO. My personal beef with the whole war thing aside - the time gaps come across as confusing IMO (again). The point of those types of trailers is to convey the story without giving everything away and I just don't feel it does that very well.
plasmid303
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Nokia cuts a better trailer than WB's marketing team.
DarkMagic
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Absolutely - I have no desire to know everything about any film before I watch it. But if your going to release a loose linear trailer that doesn't make sense
I just think all they have shown are strings of nice looking scenes that do not do the film any favors by making it look scattered IMO. My personal beef with the whole war thing aside - the time gaps come across as confusing IMO (again). The point of those types of trailers is to convey the story without giving everything away and I just don't feel it does that very well.
I think this is a case where it is best to reserve judgement. On the one hand, you describe what may well be how things go down the plot, information gleaned from watching the trailers and clips---and on the other hand the plot isn't clear to you??
Which is it? Trailers are supposed to show some exciting, "purdy" scenes from the film to drum up interest in seeing it, while also giving a general idea of the story. They're not supposed to make the plot explicitly event-by-event clear. If you've got an idea of the plot, but still a little confused by exactly what/when/how/ or even if particular things happen like the trailers suggest they do---then that is perfectly natural, and I'd argue, even intended.
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intothevoid
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Haha...you think Nokia cut that trailer? Where did they get the footage?
Trailer #3 still wins anyway for me.
plasmid303
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Haha...you think Nokia cut that trailer? Where did they get the footage?
You can't tell me that the team responsible for the first couple trailers and most of the posters cut the tv spots and this new trailer. I'll just believe they wised up and outsourced it.
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I think this is a case where it is best to reserve judgement. On the one hand, you describe what may well be how things go down the plot, information gleaned from watching the trailers and clips---and on the other hand the plot isn't clear to you??
Trailers are supposed to show some exciting, "purdy" scenes from the film to drum up interest in seeing it, while also giving a general idea of the story. They're not supposed to make the plot explicitly event-by-event clear. If you've got an idea of the plot, but still a little confused by exactly what/when/how/ or even if particular things happen like the trailers suggest they do---then that is perfectly natural, and I'd argue, even intended.
That's the whole point. If that is the plot it makes no sense.
What the trailer is telling us is:
Normal happy times - Bane chaos - happy times again (?) - ( I guess Bane goes on a vacation) then end chaos.
Why bother if your releasing a "story" trailer. TO ME - it just turns me off to it because it feel disjointed. I was pumped for this until the trailers came out. Now it's a wait and see.
And by the way - I'm not passing judgment on the film. Nor do I intend to until I see it. I am however, passing judgment on WB marketing dept.
intothevoid
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There's no happy times again from what i'm gathering, how are you getting that?
Bane doesn't go on any vacation I can assure you
intothevoid
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Actually, it's more accurate to say that Legendary Pictures & WB's Marketing team cut better TDKR trailers (this one, the TV Spots and the MTV one) than Syncopy and Team Nolan (Trailer 1, Trailer 2).
CREG Customs
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There's no happy times again from what i'm gathering, how are you getting that?
Bane doesn't go on any vacation I can assure you
What seems to come across in the trailer is that Bane gets Wayne early on - the water fight Batman broken and captured - and Gotham is sieged. Wayne escapes then wants back in the game. That order is what is throwing it off to me because it hints that the cain is due to his run in with Bane - then there are scenes with him living as Wayne again in what seems normal times before the last battle.
Now - as we talked about I can't feel the tone on this film yet and I still don't like the war aspect but I'm jut saying that the trailers are not doing it any favors in selling the story because it comes across so disjointed.
Personally - I think it's crap. I think Wayne starts out on a cain from his gunshot and fall at the end of TDK - hears that Bane is coming and THEN get's back in the game. Fails and captured by Bane when they face off and later escapes the "Rises" to defend Gotham and saves the day with Catwoman's help. Batman reigns - the end. With a whole lot of awesome thrown in, or at least that's what I am hoping for.
Now - as we talked about I can't feel the tone on this film yet and I still don't like the war aspect but I'm jut saying that the trailers are not doing it any favors in selling the story because it comes across so disjointed.
Personally - I think it's crap. I think Wayne starts out on a cain from his gunshot and fall at the end of TDK - hears that Bane is coming and THEN get's back in the game. Fails and captured by Bane when they face off and later escapes the "Rises" to defend Gotham and saves the day with Catwoman's help. Batman reigns - the end. With a whole lot of awesome thrown in, or at least that's what I am hoping for.
intothevoid
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What seems to come across in the trailer is that Bane gets Wayne early on - the water fight Batman broken and captured - and Gotham is sieged. Wayne escapes then wants back in the game. That order is what is throwing it off to me because it hints that the cain is due to his run in with Bane - then there are scenes with him living as Wayne again in what seems normal times before the last battle.
Now - as we talked about I can't feel the tone on this film yet and I still don't like the war aspect but I'm jut saying that the trailers are not doing it any favors in selling the story because it comes across so disjointed.
Personally - I think it's crap. I think Wayne starts out on a cain from his gunshot and fall at the end of TDK - hears that Bane is coming and THEN get's back in the game. Fails and captured by Bane when they face off and later escapes the "Rises" to defend Gotham and saves the day with Catwoman's help. Batman reigns - the end. With a whole lot of awesome thrown in, or at least that's what I am hoping for.
I think you're getting very confused hahaha
I think:
- Starts with Peace time, Batman's been retired for a while, things are good, Batman taking the fall for Dent's crimes has worked. People think Dent died a martyr and the Harvey Dent act has given Gordon the leverage he needs to clean up the streets
- But underneath the surface trouble is brewing, there's been inequality in society for a long time and it's only getting worse
- Bane arrives - causes serious havok in a bid to draw out Batman
- This is where Wayne asks Fox to get him back in the game from what I gather
- He is very quickly defeated by Bane in the sewer fight - possibly with Catwoman helping Bane lure Batman to that spot.
- Bane imprisons him, and wants to hurt him by destroying Gotham while Wayne is helplessly trapped along with other prominent members of Gotham's high society
- Wayne finds a way to escape
- Batman works with the cops to fight Bane's army
- Batman wins, but at some cost... maybe gets permanently injured, maybe dies
Big questions marks for me...
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I think:
- Starts with Peace time, Batman's been retired for a while, things are good, Batman taking the fall for Dent's crimes has worked. People think Dent died a martyr and the Harvey Dent act has given Gordon the leverage he needs to clean up the streets
- But underneath the surface trouble is brewing, there's been inequality in society for a long time and it's only getting worse
- Bane arrives - causes serious havok in a bid to draw out Batman
- This is where Wayne asks Fox to get him back in the game from what I gather
- He is very quickly defeated by Bane in the sewer fight - possibly with Catwoman helping Bane lure Batman to that spot.
- Bane imprisons him, and wants to hurt him by destroying Gotham while Wayne is helplessly trapped along with other prominent members of Gotham's high society
- Wayne finds a way to escape
- Batman works with the cops to fight Bane's army
- Batman wins, but at some cost... maybe gets permanently injured, maybe dies
Big questions marks for me...
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I wonder if all of Bane's goons will simultaneously die once Batman destroys the LOS mothership with the nuke?
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