The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

[DiFabio]

And the war will distract from the death scenes. Look at King Theoden's scene after Pelennor fields (a battle that upped the ante from Helms Deep with not just Orcs vs. Gondorians, but Oliphants, Rohirrim, Pirates and . . . . GHOSTS). It was a great, powerful scene (Theoden was one of my favorites) but that moment is quickly swept away with another hour and several minutes worth of planning to give Frodo a chance to destroy the ring at the Black Gates.

The departure of Boromir punctuates the end of the first film. It was smaller and more personal. I highly doubt any of the scenes will do that in There in Back Again with all the stuff that will be going on. Like you said, MASSIVE BATTLE, it'll distract a bit from the big deaths. You know they're going to end it on the legacy and potential of the Ring and possibly Bilbo (writing the book) and Gollum (hunting for the ring), not any one character or their potential death.

 

[jye4ever]

Fair enough



Shut up jye

hey, I agree with some of your gripes, I think they're somewhat valid.

 

[Adolfo]

And the war will distract from the death scenes. Look at King Theoden's scene after Pelennor fields (a battle that upped the ante from Helms Deep with not just Orcs vs. Gondorians, but Oliphants, Rohirrim, Pirates and . . . . GHOSTS). It was a great, powerful scene (Theoden was one of my favorites) but that moment is quickly swept away with another hour and several minutes worth of planning to give Frodo a chance to destroy the ring at the Black Gates.

The departure of Boromir punctuates the end of the first film. It was smaller and more personal. I highly doubt any of the scenes will do that in There in Back Again with all the stuff that will be going on. Like you said, MASSIVE BATTLE, it'll distract a bit from the big deaths. You know they're going to end it on the legacy and potential of the Ring and possibly Bilbo (writing the book) and Gollum (hunting for the ring), not any one character or their potential death.

Um Boromirs death was pretty much the last thing in the FOTR book. Thorin and company will die at the end too of TABA ... Just maybe expect the unexpected ... And carry some kleenex

 

[JAWS]

hey, I agree with some of your gripes, I think they're somewhat valid.

Ok..... I forgive you... This time

 

[DiFabio]

Um Boromirs death was pretty much the last thing in the FOTR book. Thorin and company will die at the end too of TABA ... Just maybe expect the unexpected ... And carry some kleenex

Boromir died in the Two Towers. It was told mostly in flashback/discussion and was in the beginning of the story. Not as major.

We're talking about film here. I guarantee that Thorin and Co. won't be the impact of the Hobbit's ending. Remember, "there and back again".

 

[pixletwin]

Um Boromirs death was pretty much the last thing in the FOTR book.

Actually it's the first thing that happens in The Two Towers.

Edit: Beaten to it.

 

[Adolfo]

Boromir died in the Two Towers. It was told mostly in flashback/discussion and was in the beginning of the story. Not as major.

We're talking about film here. I guarantee that Thorin and Co. won't be the impact of the Hobbit's ending. Remember, "there and back again".

I did say pretty much. But either way the end of the hobbit has to be touching. Brace for it. But I do stand corrected.. My son even said I shoulda known better

 

[The Ween]

Ween is going to be bawling in TABA. Theaters should include tissues as well as 3d glasses

I read the book. I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

Book spoiler....

Spoiler

I have a feeling Kili will live. Just a hunch.

 

[The Ween]

Boromir was a hero only by defending the hobbits. Before that?...the battle of the five armies IS A BIG Massive thing and even perhaps delayed Sauron from his attempt at conquest for 60 years. A huge middle earth change of events. Thorin will realize that he was a dik at his death. If Radagast dies it might be touching.. When Kili and Fili goes the girls in the theater will bawl. And if Tauriel and Kili pull a last of the Mohicans type of death...hmmm again just a feeling. Plus Thorins funeral should be touching with the Arkenstone and Orcrist placed on him..hhhmmmm

I guess I'll just forget about using spoilers now.

 

[jye4ever]

All this talk of LOTR makes me want to sit down and watch all 3 EE back to back.

I know, I'm going to watch them backwards.

Btw, its official, Hobbit is not the SW PT.

 

[The Ween]

Boromir died in the Two Towers. It was told mostly in flashback/discussion and was in the beginning of the story. Not as major.

We're talking about film here. I guarantee that Thorin and Co. won't be the impact of the Hobbit's ending. Remember, "there and back again".

And you never know, it might not quite happen the way it's written.

 

[The Ween]

All this talk of LOTR makes me want to sit down and watch all 3 EE back to back.

I know, I'm going to watch them backwards.

Btw, its official, Hobbit is not the SW PT.

Just watch the Avengers inbetween each one to break it up a bit.

 

[jye4ever]

I hope PJ replaces real Lurtz with a cgi Lurtz.

 

[jye4ever]

Just watch the Avengers inbetween each one to break it up a bit.

That's not such a bad idea.

 

[The Ween]

I hope PJ replaces real Lurtz with a cgi Lurtz.

Boromir shoots first?

 

[jye4ever]

Boromir shoots first?

 

[Adolfo]

I guess I'll just forget about using spoilers now.

Maybe even at bag end if they do the Gandalf visiting part could be saddening if Balin mentions going to Moria with Ori ...I will shout out "don't go man! There's a Balrog in there dude! Remember Durins bane!!!!!"

 

[DiFabio]

Btw, its official, Hobbit is not the SW PT.

CGI Clone Troopers with floating Kiwi heads = CGI Orcs that look like they're made out of yogurt

Forced "poem" symmetry in the Prequels = Forced "poem" symmetry in Hobbit (word for word lines taken from Sam and Aragorn)

"Chosen One" Midichlorian Prophecy = "Dwarf Prophecy" Thorin

Three Prequel movies, protagonist starts out as a kid found by an old man = Three Hobbit movies, protagonist starts out as a kid found by an old man

Jar Jar Binks = Radagast the Bird ****

Pod Racing = Bunny sled/barrel chase

Prequel lower stakes (Trade Federations and taxes) = Hobbit Dragon and Gold

 

[jye4ever]

Damn you're good DiFabio.

 

[RIDDICK]

Btw, its official, Hobbit is not the SW PT.

In terms of continuity and production it's a close second.