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Wait...
...in all seriousness, could the Rise of Skywalker refer to the Second Coming of Skywalker?!
Would they go there...??
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Wait...
...in all seriousness, could the Rise of Skywalker refer to the Second Coming of Skywalker?!
Would they go there...??
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Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be that lucky...
I have always thought Rise might mean Rise from the dead.
The might finally realize GL?s vision of a ethereal fight between Palps and Luke and Yoda, perhaps even Anakins ghost (both sides)
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Its the Rise of Skywalker [blood] inside Kylo.
Its also the ultimate insight into Rey.
Its also Luke's Force Ghost.
Its also the ultimate insight into Rey.
Its also Luke's Force Ghost.
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Perhaps the emperor throne scene in the trailer with Rey & Kylo is just something the emperor projects for them as a backdrop/hologram when they fight or it could be another one of those ?force bond? dreams from TLJ.
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Force fight! .. I still like to believe that the original vision was that the Emperor and Yoda were force masters, and wouldn't have used weapons like lightsabers. (Funny how we never saw either of them wield one in the OT). Force lightning should have been Palp's thing, instead it being a failed A plan by Dooku (resolved by a lightsaber fight of all things) against Obi-Wan Kenobi of all people..
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To be honest all the Star Wars threads blur together and sometimes I?m not sure.
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It's impossible now to have any Star Wars thread without the butt-hurt constantly reminding everyone they are butt-hurt. Star Wars is now the ultimate man-flu.
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It's ok. I have a Kylo Ren band-aid for it. See all better. And the lightsaber part glows in the dark.
So it's not possible for a chunk of that DS at or near its outer surface to have been explosively propelled out of frame while being obscured by that pretty fireball? Those bright red spots look a bit like projectiles to me, but whatever. The point is, IF (and yes, it's a BIG IF) TROS actually has a compelling story and is fun, I'm not going to let the throne room's survival derail my enjoyment.
Those hurtling plasma bits that are so hot they are glowing red are a near-intact office, unbroken window and slightly damaged throne?
Sounds like you were advocating extreme cost overruns. It's a good thing you were a lowly engineer and not in management; Had you been, Palpatine would have force choked the **** out of you at the first budget review.
No, actually - the material that enables a ship/office to survive (from up close) a 15 mile diameter explosion is surprisingly affordable, so ALL Imperial ships can be made impenetrable.
We're talking about a universe where people can kill and/or control others with their minds, move objects with their minds, shoot lightning out of their fingers, etc., etc., and you're talking about budgeting? Some people tend to pick and choose when to apply logic and reasoning to these stories. I've been guilty of that myself, but others can't seem to admit it.
So an Emperor's office that survived a 15 mile diameter explosion, a fall through a planetary atmosphere and high velocity impact with only light damage is just fine, but a chunk of DS superstructure that fell to Endor is where you draw the line?
I'd argue both are so stupidly implausible it defies belief (and yes, contrary to popular belief, fantasy is in fact a genre where cohesive rules and logic are majorly important, especially in how they mirror our world) but I admire those who have that kind of discretion.
It's nothing that a little diverso-toleranclusive nonbinarysplaining won't fix on Thursday.
It's nothing that a little diverso-toleranclusive nonbinarysplaining won't fix on Thursday.
They have shots for that now don't they?
On a slightly less serious note, I *heard* that's not Endor which clearly changes everything.
They have shots for that now don't they?
On a slightly less serious note, I *heard* that's not Endor which clearly changes everything.
No , not really. Those who wish to be the class clown, will find MANY other things to claim are implausible and stupid in the next episode of the space wizard drama.
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Those hurtling plasma bits that are so hot they are glowing red are a near-intact office, unbroken window and slightly damaged throne?
Well no, I suggested the throne room (if it survived) could have already been propelled out of frame. I said those "hurtling plasma bits" looked like projectiles - I didn't say one of them was actually the throne room section.
So an Emperor's office that survived a 15 mile diameter explosion, a fall through a planetary atmosphere and high velocity impact with only light damage is just fine, but a chunk of DS superstructure that fell to Endor is where you draw the line?
I'd argue both are so stupidly implausible it defies belief (and yes, contrary to popular belief, fantasy is in fact a genre where cohesive rules and logic are majorly important, especially in how they mirror our world) but I admire those who have that kind of discretion.
Well, if we agree that your 15 mile diameter explosion initiated in the center of the DS (where the rebels destroyed the main reactor), then you're drawing a much finer line than I am. Luke, Lando and friends were barely out of the DS when it exploded, which means they weren't much further away from the source than the throne room. Just sayin'....
Hey, I have a suggestion: Let's agree to disagree on this, that way we're not taking up space meant for discussing The Mandalorian. Sound good?
My new favorite episode. Who needs the ST with this kind of continuation of the OT. This one had awesome new characters, tension, world building and some of Mando's best action yet.
I love how lethal they're making the galaxy feel again, from the scum and villainy to the no screwing around X-Wing pilots.
And wow they name dropped Gungans *and* Canto Bight and I didn't even mind, lol.
It's just that incredibly low thresholds for believability like this - where even the most basic logic is dismissed with "it could happen - it's just a movie (feel free to insert "space wizards" here) - is what gives us movies like Last Jedi and Terminator-(any of last several films) etc.
Along with... a Palpy meat puppet with intact ROTJ throne and office in TROS. "You know me, you love me and I'm BAACCKKK! Mwahhahaha!" It's not so much JJ dreaming up pitifully lazy branded regurgitation like that - it's the people who give him license him to do it.
And yeah, I will ALWAYS agree to disagree with those people.
But I used 'sarcastica' font...
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So it's not possible for a chunk of that DS at or near its outer surface to have been explosively propelled out of frame while being obscured by that pretty fireball? Those bright red spots look a bit like projectiles to me, but whatever. The point is, IF (and yes, it's a BIG IF) TROS actually has a compelling story and is fun, I'm not going to let the throne room's survival derail my enjoyment.
When the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded, didn’t the cockpit of the shuttle carrying the astronauts jettison from the spacecraft after the initial explosion, and the astronauts were actually at that point still alive, or something like that? So yeah what the hell, I suppose I’ll bite on something similar to that happening with the Emperor’s throne room as well after the DS exploded.
Provided the overall film itself is good.
When the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded, didn?t the cockpit of the shuttle carrying the astronauts jettison from the spacecraft after the initial explosion, and the astronauts were actually at that point still alive, or something like that? So yeah what the hell, I suppose I?ll bite on something similar to that happening with the Emperor?s throne room as well after the DS exploded.
Provided the overall film itself is good.
"The shuttle itself did not explode," said Valerie Neal, space shuttle curator at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. "I think the origin of that myth is that it looked like an explosion, and the media called it an explosion."
So we have.... "did not explode" vs a 15 mile diameter explosion experienced at ultra-close proximity.
That simply catapults something away - intact and undamaged - rather than vaporizing it?
Guys, guys... it's supposed to be "agree to disagree and move on to Mando" time.
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