The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[The Buffinator]

You?re going to let him take a shot like that at your beloved OT?

I assure you we are quite safe from your ST friends here.

Too bad you didn't protect it from GL - he's done more harm to it with his incessant changes than friends of the ST ever could. Tell me, in his latest versions do the rebels still win at the end of ROTJ???

 

[SilverStar17]

Too bad you didn't protect it from GL - he's done more harm to it with his incessant changes than friends of the ST ever could.

Like force ghost Hayden?

 

[The Buffinator]

Like force ghost Hayden?

Yep. And let's not forget that ridiculous scene with Han and Jabba inserted into the first movie.

Didn't we just list them in one of these threads? Several people were counting down their Top 5 worst ones...

 

[SilverStar17]

Yep. And let's not forget that ridiculous scene with Han and Jabba inserted into the first movie.

Didn't we just list them in one of these threads? Several people were counting down their Top 5 worst ones...

I liked RotS, so I didn’t mind force ghost Hayden so much. It’s ironic though, because the more GL tried to explain and justify it, the less sense it made.

 

[TaliBane]

When one starts using hypothetical situations from a completely different universe to justify a demonstrably poorly choreographed scene to protect the sanctity of their fond childhood memories, that might be a good time.

That's quite a mouthful.

No need to even look outside of SW for hypotheticals. The Emperor seemed very prescient; maybe he knew all along the Rebels were going to destroy the DS, so he used the Force to create some sort of force shield around the throne room so it?d be shielded from the explosion and remain intact.

Could be, could be. Now that Leia went all Mary Poppins in space, all bets are off. We need to be prepared for anything!

It would have been soooo easy for the Emperor to have used a force holographic projection to create a hologram of the death star on the other side of Endor (that wasn't really there!!!) that the rebels would have attacked instead - then BOOM they realize they've been tricked and that it enabled the Imperials to get away!

It would have inspired some Ewok boys who were sweeping the forest on Endor below - a myth to inspire a new generation of Imperials. The legend of what Palps did that day would live on, and it would also undercut all those who thought he was this all-powerful figure who could do ANYTHING!

 

[Sassafras]

Yep. And let's not forget that ridiculous scene with Han and Jabba inserted into the first movie.

Didn't we just list them in one of these threads? Several people were counting down their Top 5 worst ones...

Thought I knew MY worst ones but saw the Greedo edit for the first time last night and why, why, why,!!!!!!
Perfect iconic moment just %$#@! on.
Save urselves dont watch ANH on Disney +

 

[SilverStar17]

Everyone just chill, and go watch SW now. It’s on TNT.

 

[ZE_501]

It's ok. I have a Kylo Ren band-aid for it. See all better. And the lightsaber part glows in the dark.

OW there's SEQUEL TRILOGY on my --

...errr...never mind.

 

[The Buffinator]

Everyone just chill, and go watch SW now. It?s on TNT.

Nah, time for Mr. Robot!

 

[xipotec]

When the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded, didn?t the cockpit of the shuttle carrying the astronauts jettison from the spacecraft after the initial explosion, and the astronauts were actually at that point still alive, or something like that? So yeah what the hell, I suppose I?ll bite on something similar to that happening with the Emperor?s throne room as well after the DS exploded.

Provided the overall film itself is good.

Unfortunately yes, and its been whispered at Nasa at least one astronaut was alive for the 7 minute fall and was killed by the crew compartment smashing into the sea.

Yea, things do not just vaporize in an explosion unless the resulting gas is hotter than the material its made of.

Columbia broke up MID FLIGHT in the atmosphere from super heated air entering the wing through a hole made by falling foam. There was alot of large parts left of that as well. How do I know? I saw them first hand a Cape Canaveral. If you watch the video , they look like burning parts, but they were large pieces.

Although unlikely to happen its possible, assuming that is the DSII , who knows what kind of uber strong space metal those spacw wizards used to male that moon.

Also Star Trek has show this a hundred times. And the Enterprise has never burned up in orbit.



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[xipotec]

And the Challenger did technichally break apart, because THE HUGE OXYGEN TANK IT WAS SITTING ON EXPLODED.

Talk about using semantics to prove a point.....

The DS throne room didnt explode either, the reactor core exploded in the middle of the DS did. Same thing as Challenger.





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[SilverStar17]

Yea, things do not just vaporize in an explosion unless the resulting gas is hotter than the material its made of.

Columbia broke up MID FLIGHT in the atmosphere from super heated air entering the wing through a hole made by falling foam. There was alot of large parts left of that as well. How do I know? I saw them first hand a Cape Canaveral. If you watch the video , they look like burning parts, but they were large pieces



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Agreed.

 

[TaliBane]

And the Challenger did technichally break apart, because THE HUGE OXYGEN TANK IT WAS SITTING ON EXPLODED.

Talk about using semantics to prove a point.....

The DS throne room didnt explode either, the reactor core exploded in the middle of the DS did. Same thing as Challenger.





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You mean me... or NASA?

And onscreen it kinda looks like "the death star" exploded. Like - core, throne room - the whole lot. Simultanenously. Right? That's what onscreen I mean. The way you're describing it, there's just some explosions deep inside "the middle" and that's about it. It's core, then one second later, whole thing.

And I'm not sure how paralleling a moon-sized space station blowing up in space - with a blast diameter of 15 miles (with heat/force beyond comprehension) - is in any way related to a small heat-shielded craft (specifically designed to handle re-entry temperature btw) that broke up within the earth's atmosphere, spreading parts like an aircraft would break up at high altitude.

The temps of a sun-level explosion, even a nuclear blast, are hundreds of times greater than re-entry temps.

It's not even like Palpatine's office was embedded deep in the DS superstructure (so perhaps partly shielded by heavy-duty parts around it) - it was situated outside, this thin, small exposed tower where it would have been vaporized in the first second.

I guess this just comes down to the stuff that people can believe. It's such a stupid-bizarre leap to me, showing this barely damaged room with intact chair and window with unbroken panes of glass after having seen it in the middle of a 15 mile diameter explsoion (that would be like the sun's heat and ferocity) but I guess some just buy it, so...

 

[momaw]

My 2c

Nagasaki and Hiroshima

**** sometimes survives ****. If that's a bridge to far for some than that's fair for them.

EDIT: Oh and for those, here's some bridges that survived

 

[dan350zr]

Ok now show me a picture of what's left after the international space station blows up from a nuclear explosion and the remaining pieces go through our atmosphere before impacting on the surface at extreamly high speeds...

 

[Otomofan]

My 2c
**** sometimes survives ****. If that's a bridge to far for some than that's fair for them.

Like being thrown down a miles long pit into an exploding reactor but somehow being alive 30 years later?

I know, I know....the space wizard can just use his magic powers.

But to anyone with even two brain cells knocking together, they're gonna know that's a lazy ass cheap way out, and it destroys the continuity of the first 6 movies right along with the garbage Disney movies.

Why are we still talking about this in the Mando thread?

On topic.....

I am in no way "sick" of The Child on the show....I think he's been used a fair amount of time per episode. But he's being painfully overexposed outside of the show. There was a brutally, painfully, unfunny skit featuring him on SNL this week. The people in the audience laughed nervously cause it was clear the make-up and props people spent all week working on it, but dear god, it was the lamest, cringeiest, out of touch boomeriest attempt at taking something "relevant" in pop culture and attempting to make it funny, but it wasn't. I almost puked from the cringe.

People's attention spans are damn short these days. By the time the toys of The Child come out in May, people will be, like, SO over it. I bet they're producing way more than they can sell too. The Child toys will be clearanced and eventually join the ET Atari cartridges in a landfill in the desert.

 

[TaliBane]

My 2c

Nagasaki and Hiroshima

**** sometimes survives ****. If that's a bridge to far for some than that's fair for them.

EDIT: Oh and for those, here's some bridges that survived

Now we're getting somewhere. Cause this is interesting.

How you compare ROTJ and this exactly I have no idea but I guess given the "reactor core" thing we can call the ROTJ blast "nuclear." Hiroshima was a baby - 1 mile. The blast on DSII was around 15-20 miles (judging by the DS diameter) so hundreds of times larger by volume than Hiroshima.

The Russians later did nuclear blasts that size. They turned rock into ash even though they were detonated at a couple of miles up. That's more what we are talking about here in ROTJ - a blast that would turn rock and steel to powder.

Those Russian blasts were THOUSANDS of times more powerful than Hiroshima, a blast which left buildings standing, and was actually only a few times more powerful than the biggest non-nuclear explosions.

The Challenger space shuttle didn't explode, and Hiroshima was VERY small and weak for a nuclear blast - so hard to use these as comps for that massive ROTJ "nuclear" explosion.

To me you have to keep coming back to what you see on screen in ROTJ: not large chunks of superstructure breaking free as explosions tear it up, but a single massive detonation that totally consumes and atomizes the whole structure.

 

[Otomofan]

OMG loook it's BABY YODA but it's not, cause it's a guy on SNL OMG LULLLLZZ that's effing HILARIOUS cause it's Baby Yoda!!!

OMG you guiyz do you get it??? Do you GET IT?????

It's FUNNNYYYY.

 

[ArtDamage]

Look at everyone in here pretending that death star wreckage is going to be the worst of problems in this film.

 

[DeadLeaves]

Started watching the new season of The Expanse on the weekend, slaps this show around in every aspect. Benchmark sci-fi show at the moment I reckon.

Hope these last two episodes of Mando change my mind.