The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[TheDucky]

Well yeah. And no. For one thing, there's plenty in the Disney+ audience who'd watch live action because it's Star Wars or Baby Yoda or hype but wouldn't bother with what they see as a cartoon or animated series. The inner circle of fans seems to not think about the general audience but Disney won't$$$$$. And those fans don't know about a voice actor.

Even if Dawson was cast as she is easier to turn into Ahkosa *shrug* she's got the skills. U might suggest that Pascal was hired to bring in the Hispanic audience. But it's like Fury - SLJ is awesome even if the original was a white guy. Pascal is awesome the righf mix of code and occasional warmth/ humor. His real life background isn't relevant on screen. Favreau doesn't need KK but she needs him.

IMO Mandalorian is in capable hands. It's the rumored spinoff with Ahkosa and Sabine Wren I'd worry about. 2 Female leads and KK and the woman with the Jay Leno jaw. Hate to see any Rebels follow-up ruined.

Is that the rumored "female centric" show? About Ahsoka and Sabine? If so, I am worried about that one with it being KK's pet project. Nonetheless still excited to see it. Worst case is you can ignore it if it is bad, wouldn't hurt any less though thinking about the potential and it being tossed.

I don't consider Pascal grouped in with SLJ Fury though. I guess the thought process makes sense about bringing in another audience, but the *helmet is always on, I don't know if that was a big factor. Pascal is a great actor and Mando is an original character, didn't matter who got the part, I would have loved him just the same. Fury's casting is one the times they got the switch right though. I can't picture Fury as a white guy anymore Regardless of the reasons he was cast, he should have won out against anybody. Was there a lot of backlash about SLJ Fury though? I don't remember. At the time I didn't care because it was SLJ He is good in everything to me.

Outside of not having the Ahsoka voice, which any actress picked outside of Eckstein would have been an issue, I'm ultimately fine with the RD casting if they make her look like Ahsoka. That's my whole thing. Don't care who you cast as an alien, just make them look like the alien they are playing

Hopefully with the Disney budget for these shows they can afford to spend hours and hours doing the makeup. They did it with Zoe/Gamora for GOTG and it looked amazing.

 

[pixletwin]

I am almost positive that by the time any more shows go into production, KK will be a distant memory at Lucasfilm.

 

[jye4ever]

Regarding the 3 reveals...

Fett we already knew he was coming because of the season 1 tease.

Ashoka and Death Watch we also already knew were coming because of the focus placed on the Mando siege and dark saber reveal.

I think they have some very big secrets that will be revealed in the show like BY was.

The show is a huge cultural success as Star Wars should be hence why I think actors previously involved in the movies will want to be back in the spotlight again for a multitude of reasons that range from salary, reputation and casting power.

If they see that their reputation can repaired and actually be seen in a positive light in PT era related material they are going to jump on it.

cough Hayden/Portman cough

Padme already back at Disney and she still looks the freaking same (as does Hayden) it really wouldn?t take as much to get done as one might imagine it would.

SLJ forget about it that dude is a whore lol




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[TheDucky]

Regarding the 3 reveals...

Fett we already knew he was coming because of the season 1 tease.

Ashoka and Death Watch we also already knew were coming because of the focus placed on the Mando siege and dark saber reveal.

I think they have some very big secrets that will be revealed in the show like BY was.

The show is a huge cultural success as Star Wars should be hence why I think actors previously involved in the movies will want to be back in the spotlight again for a multitude of reasons that range from salary, reputation and casting power.

If they see that their reputation can repaired and actually be seen in a positive light in PT era related material they are going to jump on it.

cough Hayden/Portman cough

Padme already back at Disney and she still looks the freaking same (as does Hayden) it really wouldn?t take as much to get done as one might imagine it would.

SLJ forget about it that dude is a whore lol




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Hey now... Natalie Portman’s reputation wasn’t ruined by the PT. It only almost was

Don’t know about Hayden as he seems to just take a role or two every other year, whether that’s from his rep of the PT or the dude living the good life with his Star Wars pay day, who knows.

That said, a lot of fans have come around on the PT, it’s why you see Hayden and Ahmed Best at Star Wars Celebration.

 

[matticus]

STAR WARS Story Head Tells Fans To Calm Down Over Continuity As "It's All Fake Anyway"

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-...ver-continuity-as-its-all-fake-anyway-a175271

 

[Sassafras]

Is that the rumored "female centric" show? About Ahsoka and Sabine? If so, I am worried about that one with it being KK's pet project. Nonetheless still excited to see it. Worst case is you can ignore it if it is bad, wouldn't hurt any less though thinking about the potential and it being tossed.

I don't consider Pascal grouped in with SLJ Fury though. I guess the thought process makes sense about bringing in another audience, but the *helmet is always on, I don't know if that was a big factor. Pascal is a great actor and Mando is an original character, didn't matter who got the part, I would have loved him just the same. Fury's casting is one the times they got the switch right though. I can't picture Fury as a white guy anymore Regardless of the reasons he was cast, he should have won out against anybody. Was there a lot of backlash about SLJ Fury though? I don't remember. At the time I didn't care because it was SLJ He is good in everything to me.

Outside of not having the Ahsoka voice, which any actress picked outside of Eckstein would have been an issue, I'm ultimately fine with the RD casting if they make her look like Ahsoka. That's my whole thing. Don't care who you cast as an alien, just make them look like the alien they are playing

Hopefully with the Disney budget for these shows they can afford to spend hours and hours doing the makeup. They did it with Zoe/Gamora for GOTG and it looked amazing.

Maybe re Ahkosa and Sabine. It'd make sense - known characters, hard to fail at least at first. And not saying a female director can't do kick-ass stuff. It's just this woman's background didn't sound that way. Even then, hopefully if u can't do an action scene, you bring in someone who does know. Be HUMBLE about your limits.

I dunno if there was a real backlash about Fury. Seen some comments, but hard to believe anyone would care. LOL to me at this point, SLJ is Fury (man, his scenes in TWS and IM are so great like when he on Tony). Pedro Pascal IS the Mandalorian - yeah, could be anyone there, but mad respect for Pascal. He said in an interview he was a stickler about the way the character moves, kind've a stillness. I picked up on that early on. Makes sense as a trained warrior doesn't waste energy but still is constantly alert. Plus the voice work IMO is spot on. So his stuntman have to match that. I appreciate commitment like that. Plus, in public Pascal's pretty down-to-earth.

True about the rumored Ahkosa show - yeah, if it sux, best to just move on. Figure the character is just being introduced in Mando, which is fine if some haven't watched Clones/Rebels (tho IMO missing out). So far think we've seen some great design work, so I think Ahkosa visually will be awesome. Especially since the Mando show crew seems to be really into what they are doing. Think it will be a pride thing to make a stunning Ahkosa. Almost feel a bit sorry for Dawson - a lot of knowing fans will be *judging*

 

[Sassafras]

STAR WARS Story Head Tells Fans To Calm Down Over Continuity As "It's All Fake Anyway"

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-...ver-continuity-as-its-all-fake-anyway-a175271

Yeah? Look what happened to X-men.

I get it, but there's just being sloppy/amateur fan-fic too. I mean, it's not like I wanna watch Lord of the Rings and have Ancalogon the Black show up on the battlefield just coz someone thinks it'd be cool.

 

[Khev]

Holy **** Dave Filoni's speech at the end of the new Mando Gallery episode.

Just give him the franchise already.

 

[TheDucky]

Holy **** Dave Filoni's speech at the end of the new Mando Gallery episode.

Just give him the franchise already.

Yup. Showing how TPM goes all the way to ROTJ and why TPM is so important to the overall narrative of Star Wars was amazing to watch, especially from a PT defender since day one He gets Lucas Star Wars.

Interesting tweet from Ahmed Best about it too: “George once said to me 20 Years ago that in time, peoples opinions of this movie will change. Thanks to storytellers like @dave_filoni we are now IN TIME.”

 

[Hoody999]

Holy **** Dave Filoni's speech at the end of the new Mando Gallery episode.

Just give him the franchise already.

Yeah it was almost like the Patton Oswald filibuster ! and came from nowhere.

But did you see the look on Faverau's face...just soaking it all up.

A pity KK wasn't there to just realise even more how little she understands.....

https://vimeo.com/314255136

 

[Johnny Utah]

It was very impressive.

 

[jye4ever]

Holy **** Dave Filoni's speech at the end of the new Mando Gallery episode.

Just give him the franchise already.

It was impressive BUT that doesn?t change the fact that the movie still remains to this very day a huge let down.

Absolutely Fav/Filoni/Feige need to be given full control of SW and useless KK kicked to the curb but TPM is still not even in the same universe as ANH/ESB that Ducky there would have you believe AND sorry Ahmed Best but no the movie is not a masterpiece now just because Filoni says it is in a 4 minute speech 21 years after its release.

This revisionist crap is not gojng to fly the PT MOVIES, NOT THE CLONE WARS CARTOON, BUT THE PT MOVIES will forever remain inferior to the OT NO MATTER how eloquent Filoni talks about a 4 minute scene in a 2 1/2 hour movie.

Sorry Ducky but no TPM is not now or never will be as good as ANH/ESB just because Filoni and Ahmed Best says it is.

Of course Filoni is going to cover for his boss piss poor work from 1999-2005 what was he going to say at that table...MAN DID LUCAS DROP THE BALL HARD IN 99 MY CARTOON BLOWS HIS MOVIES AWAY!

Hell the 2003 cartoon blows away the PT lol

Hate the ST all they want I don?t give a crap but TPM is still not a good SW movie either.



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[TheDucky]

It was impressive BUT that doesn?t change the fact that the movie still remains to this very day a huge let down.

Absolutely Fav/Filoni/Feige need to be given full control of SW and useless KK kicked to the curb but TPM is still not even in the same universe as ANH/ESB that Ducky there would have you believe AND sorry Ahmed Best but no the movie is not a masterpiece now just because Filoni says it is in a 4 minute speech 21 years after its release.

This revisionist crap is not gojng to fly the PT MOVIES, NOT THE CLONE WARS CARTOON, BUT THE PT MOVIES will forever remain inferior to the OT NO MATTER how eloquent Filoni talks about a 4 minute scene in a 2 1/2 hour movie.

Sorry Ducky but no TPM is not now or never will be as good as ANH/ESB just because Filoni and Ahmed Best says it is.

Of course Filoni is going to cover for his boss piss poor work from 1999-2005 what was going to say at that table...MAN DID LUCAS DROP THE BALL HARD IN 99 MY CARTOON BLOWS HIS MOVIES AWAY!

Hell the 2003 cartoon blows away the PT lol

Hate the ST all they want I don?t give a crap but TPM is still not a good SW movie either.



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I have to ask Jye, do you say some things just to get a rise? I’ve noticed it multiple times now where you claim things against people that they never said or take them a step further beyond their original meaning.

Nobody said it’s as good as ANH or ESB though. Not me. Not Filoni. Not Best.

All Filoni said is the importance of TPM and ultimately the final duel, has far reaching ramifications that shaped the story all the way until ROTJ. Which it did. That isn’t revisionist history, that has been true for years and years now. It was true the moment the PT finished and you could see Kenobi’s failings in teaching Anakin.

Filoni would **** all over the ST if given the chance. The reason he likes the PT is because he knows Star Wars better than anyone and knows it’s better than many give it credit for.

I don’t know why you hate the PT jye. It has OT characters in it. R2, C-3PO, Yoda, Kenobi, Chewbacca, Vader, Palpatine, Luke, Leia... didn’t ruin a single one either unlike the ST.

 

[The Buffinator]

I have to ask Jye, do you say some things just to get a rise?

After you posted this out of the blue in the TROS thread yesterday,



you've got to admit that accusation is a bit hypocritical.

 

[jye4ever]

I have to ask Jye, do you say some things just to get a rise? I?ve noticed it multiple times now where you claim things against people that they never said or take them a step further beyond their original meaning.

Nobody said it?s as good as ANH or ESB though. Not me. Not Filoni. Not Best.

All Filoni said is the importance of TPM and ultimately the final duel, has far reaching ramifications that shaped the story all the way until ROTJ. Which it did. That isn?t revisionist history, that has been true for years and years now. It was true the moment the PT finished and you could see Kenobi?s failings in teaching Anakin.

Filoni would **** all over the ST if given the chance. The reason he likes the PT is because he knows Star Wars better than anyone and knows it?s better than many give it credit for.

I don?t know why you hate the PT jye. It has OT characters in it. R2, C-3PO, Yoda, Kenobi, Chewbacca, Vader, Palpatine, Luke, Leia... didn?t ruin a single one either unlike the ST.

Thanks to Filoni AND now you Ahmed Best now believes that TPM is a freaking masterpiece AKA like ANH/ESB.

How can you and Filoni live with yourselves doing that to him lol


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[loki2371]

TPM is a masterpiece.....

At least when compared to TLJ (and in some regards TFA)....

 

[The Buffinator]

Is that the rumored "female centric" show? About Ahsoka and Sabine? If so, I am worried about that one with it being KK's pet project. Nonetheless still excited to see it. Worst case is you can ignore it if it is bad, wouldn't hurt any less though thinking about the potential and it being tossed.

Maybe re Ahsoka and Sabine. It'd make sense - known characters, hard to fail at least at first.

True about the rumored Ahsoka show - yeah, if it sux, best to just move on. Figure the character is just being introduced in Mando, which is fine if some haven't watched Clones/Rebels (tho IMO missing out). So far think we've seen some great design work, so I think Ahsoka visually will be awesome. Especially since the Mando show crew seems to be really into what they are doing. Think it will be a pride thing to make a stunning Ahsoka. Almost feel a bit sorry for Dawson - a lot of knowing fans will be *judging*

I initially mistook Sabine for Satine Kryze from TCW and thought wait a minute,

Spoiler

Darth Maul killed her in Season 5 - how is that going to work?

After reading a bit about Sabine, I guess her inclusion makes sense. I wouldn't mind if they surprised us with Asajj Ventress in season 2.

Spoiler

I know she dies in a novel that's considered canon, but if they wanted to ignore that it would be fine by me.

IMO she evolved into the most interesting character in TCW, and her teaming up with Ahsoka and/or Mando for a few adventures could be quite entertaining. Plus casting nominations for her could make for quite a discussion.

 

[Khev]

It was impressive BUT that doesn?t change the fact that the movie still remains to this very day a huge let down.

So true. You can tell that Ahmed Best is joining deranged ST bashers with glee because he has literally waited 20 years for *anything* to bash to take the heat off TPM and the PT but the fact remains that his movie isn't suddenly this well told masterpiece just because some television cartoon director pieced together the name of the music that played during the duel with a bunch of other stuff that never actually appeared in the movie, lol.

I *love* Filoni's passion and enthusiasm and his take (which I can only assume is George's as well) *does* make me appreciate TPM and the PT more but yeah I shouldn't need to read the name of the songs on the back of the CD soundtrack and then watch a behind the scenes round table discussion decades later to understand the significance of a swordfight in a movie.

 

[Bravomite]

That Filoni interview is brilliant, someone give him the keys to Star Wars already. Man cannot believe they considered naming episode 9 'Dual of Fates' because it sounded cool without realising the significance of the song title and its relevance to the story of Anakin ... (another thing for Rey to add to her pile of Star Wars loot along with Han's dog, Han's ship, Luke's lightsaber, the Skywalker name etc.)

Love that Filoni doesn't mention the ST at all, he clearly doesn't regard it as a part of the real saga.

 

[Khev]

Love that Filoni doesn't mention the ST at all, he clearly doesn't regard it as a part of the real saga.

Well other than showing glimpses of how they made Mando the whole point of that round table was to celebrate the genius of George Lucas. The ST, while also a celebration of GL's SW (to a fault with regard to TFA), wasn't made by him so obviously wouldn't qualify for that particular discussion.

I was very glad to see Disney take such an approach to honoring the man that started it all, it gives me hope for the Saga going forward (even if that hope is limited solely to Mando for the time being.)