The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[punisher1974]

I can't wait to see what they do for season 2. The cast is awesome and I like the announcement of the guest stars to the new season. I am curious to see where they are taking the show.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Wouldn't it be cool if Olyphant played Talon Karrde?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde

 

[Hoody999]

I can't wait to see what they do for season 2. The cast is awesome and I like the announcement of the guest stars to the new season. I am curious to see where they are taking the show.

Hopefully they show a trailer for virtual SDCC !!

I haven't looked at the calendar but I imagine the Mando documentaries should go close to SDCC. Maybe a couple of weeks free in between ?? Then it'll be time for a trailer.

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[jye4ever]

Hopefully they show a trailer for virtual SDCC !!

I haven't looked at the calendar but I imagine the Mando documentaries should go close to SDCC. Maybe a couple of weeks free in between ?? Then it'll be time for a trailer.

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D23

Disney has even less reason to support SDCC now and you know why....because there is no SDCC!

Why support virtual SDCC at all when they can easily just save it for virtual D23.


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[Sassafras]

pfft it?s all connected even the ST deniers are just trying to make believe that Mandalorian won?t eventually lead to baby Rey and baby First Order lol

Just wait until Filoni gives his big epiphany speech on the importance of the ST his TCW zealots are not going to know what to do.

Support him or throw him into the KK fire!

You know its coming

Sass, ajp and Khev know the truth!
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*Gloomily* gotta admit Favreau probably knows how to play the Hollywood game; e.g. if some executive *&^% KK really pushes for some *&^% Favreau may give a little to get his way the rest of the time. Even if it's total cringe. Didn't realize until last night Gallery KK had costume input for Cara at least tho don't have a problem with Cara's costume.

If they keep to the timeline too, there's not that big of a gap from 5 years after ROTJ and TROS. So somewhere in there the First Order is building up. Not that much of a stretch to think *an ominous darkness shows up on the horizon* - but -

Mando's entire arc could take place over a short time span - a few years - and pretty much stick to the fragment groups in the Outer Rim. Which is what I hope happens. I could live with, at the series end, an appearance of Luke with a child Kylo in tow. It'd only be for a few minutes. Mando rides off into sunset.
Fans are happy as not since OT has there been such a SATISFYING narrative.

Least that's what I hope happens, or something like that. But wouldn't be surprised to see some cringe. Disney and execs seem to make the same mistakes as WB did with DC universe - and Mando is getting too much attention now. So KK etc. will butt in as it's all they have at the moment.

Still, Mando Season 2 filming had already wound up in February. Figure we get another great season at least!

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

pfft it?s all connected even the ST deniers are just trying to make believe that Mandalorian won?t eventually lead to baby Rey and baby First Order lol

Just wait until Filoni gives his big epiphany speech on the importance of the ST his TCW zealots are not going to know what to do.

Support him or throw him into the KK fire!

You know its coming

Sass, ajp and Khev know the truth!


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I'm counting on Favreau to have the good sense not to do anything of the sort. Hopefully once Kennedy is ousted the ST will be treated by the new regime with the disrespect it deserves.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm counting on Favreau to have the good sense not to do anything of the sort. Hopefully once Kennedy is ousted the ST will be treated by the new regime with the disrespect it deserves.

Yeah they spent 900 million to make and market the ST just to ignore it on your behalf lol

I might not like the PT as much as I do the OT and ST but i?m not just going to expect them to make believe they were never made.

If AOTC still has a life 18 years after being released i?m sorry to ruin your life but the ST is here to stay and when you and I are almost in the grave the ST kids will have their own eye opening epiphany in the future when a 71 year old Filoni spews out the BIG THEMATIC secret that has been hidden in ST all along lol


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[Khev]

Here is how the PT ruined Yoda.

In the OT I just figured Yoda was a little hermit that was strong with the force and trained the Jedi from his swampy home. He was above lightsabers and was one who taught with words and philosophy..

The PT made him this General.. This super Jedi master. Possibly the greatest Jedi ever.. And then... He just goes and runs and hides and gives up. He doesn't even want to train Luke. There is a battle going on out there in the Galaxy and he just hides instead of joining the Rebels.

Here is how the PT ruin Chewbacca.. The Stupid Wookie never told Han just how real the Jedi were and His planet is the worst looking thing in the entire saga

Here is how the PT ruins Vader - Child Killer, back fighter, killer of unarmed aliens, and wife beater.

Obi Wan - Much like Yoda he just runs away and hides.. For some reason he thinks Luke can fight the entire Empire but He and Yoda can not? He already beat Vader once. Sign up with the Rebels *****. He is also shown to be dumb for not being able to remember any droids and allowing Luke to have the same name as his father on the same freaking planet his father lived on.

Boba Fett - Just another Clone

R2 - D2 - Sucky droid that cant remember Obi Wan







I am kinda joking about some of that.. But I have been wondering recently had the PT come out before the OT Like 15years before the OT. I wonder if people who now hate how the ST handled Luke would have felt about the OT handling of Yoda. Just giving up and hiding. Letting a war go on without him. Not wanting to train Luke and thus just giving up the galaxy to the Empire. Should Yoda need convincing to train Luke? I mean if Yoda was your fav character in the PT would you be frustrated that he was just hiding in the new films? Obi Wan is kinda the same. Just hiding while a war goes on.. Why can Luke stop Vader and the Emperor any better then Yoda and Ben? I mean Luke had to Kill Vader in the eyes of Yoda and Obi Wan to save the galaxy.. So even if Luke does that how does he beat the Emperor? In a way the PT ends up making these two cowards.. If Yoda is just a Hermit who trains Jedi and Obi wan is the last of the Jedi Knights and is really as old as he looks then they have to wait for someone else.. But Since Obi Wan was in his Prime and Yoda was a freaking jumping frog with a saber and they both almost defeated both the Emperor and Vader the first time.. Is hiding the answer? Hell Obi Wan already schooled Anakin.. They should have been teaming up with the Rebels instead of waiting for Luke to grow up with no training for 18 years

Would we complain the Luke Could blow up the death Star with the force like we did when Rey used a Jedi mind trick?

Would we all be wondering why Han was such a nonbeliever in the force when his Best friend in the World had a relationship with freaking yoda

Same with Obi Wan and R2... Come on Guys you rescued the Emperor together

Vader would have gotten to be much cooler as a character though

Something that I always hope my posts do is kind of have the "Filoni effect" on people who may be on the fence about movies I love. I know I'll never change the mind of a hardened hater but I like to think that sometimes my takes *might* help someone who was skewing slightly negative to go "oh wow, okay when you put it like that yeah that is pretty cool, okay I can get behind that!"

But I swear TheDucky is like the anti-Filoni, lol. Whenever I find myself coming around on the PT he comes and just unloads a torrent of STDS induced bashing and then holds the very *worst* aspects of the PT (Kid Boba, "Superstar" Ani, wtf??) above *much* better films and characters. Which triggers my own logic and common sense to the point that I can't help but say um what are you talking about that stuff is garbage, lol.

I'll give you credit ironwez. You wisely shut up on the ST comparisons when you see one of us praising ROTS. *And* you have the good sense to recognize each and every one of that film's faults. I can respect a take that says "man despite the cringey writing, wooden acting, and distracting 2D backdrops there's just a certain charm to the cartoony aesthetic, rich world building and operatic drama that always sucks me in regardless."

But imagine if someone was iffy about the ST and then they go "hmm, you know that final Han scene *was* pretty awesome if I'm being honest" and then I immediately follow with "SEE???? And now do you understand why Rose Tico is GREATER THAN ESB HAN?!???" I'm pretty sure that person would be all "WTF?!? Okay never mind TROS sucks, you ST fans are just too kooky," lol.

Star Wars Theory just posted that after reading TheDucky's rants even he hates the PT now, lol.

 

[ajp4mgs]

You can't really compare Luke to Anakin though. Luke was in a position of seeing what falling to the Dark Side does, he used his father's failures to fight off his own potential failures. Anakin never got to see that in someone.

I understand your point, and it's fair, but there are clear parallels between Anakin's journey and Luke's that were put on screen to intentionally highlight how they faced the same dilemmas but chose differently.

When Anakin faced off a second time with the guy who cut his hand off, he executed him. When Luke faced off a second time with the guy who cut his hand off, he stopped himself from going that far. I know you're going to say "that's because it was his dad," but in that moment it was just Darth Vader (not "dad") to him.

Anakin didn't choose to execute Dooku because of what happened to his mom, or what was going to happen to Padme. He did it because Palpatine could feel his anger and knew how to use that to keep getting Anakin closer to the dark side. Luke and Anakin had journeys that "rhymed" for a reason.

You are really stuck up on this whole father thing.

I keep bringing it up because that was *the whole point* of Filoni's speech. Didn't you listen to it? Filoni said that Anakin grew close to Palpatine as a father figure, and only because Qui-Gon wasn't there to serve that purpose. To me, that just flies in the face of so much contrary story foundation.

Mind you, i did not know that all the fun moved to this thread and there is a lot to read here and I just sort of skimmed.. So Im sorry if I am missing something here.
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Im kinda with Ducky on this. I don't know about all the Father Figure stuff.. But I do believe things would have been different if Qui Gon was training Anakin.

1. I don't thing Qui Gon would have left Anakin's mom on Tatooine. Especially after Anakin started having nightmares.
2. He was the best of the Jedi and knew that the Council was flawed and Dogmatic. I think his training of Anakin would have been a little less conventional.
3. I think the relationship with Padme and Anakin would have not been encouraged but I think Anakin would have confided in Qui Gon without feat of being excommunicated.
4. Qui Gon is the ****
5. Qui Gon would have encouraged Anakin's skills and nurtured him.

Obi wan was a bad Master. He was basically forced into training him and constantly putting Anakin down and embarrassing him in public. Obi Wan had an ego that Qui Gon did not seem to have.

I don't see Qui Gon being very angry at Anakin for using the force to float a piece of Fruit around.

Qui-Gon is probably my favorite new character in the PT. But to say that Palpatine wouldn't be able to manipulate his way through Qui-Gon's training is nuts to me. Palpatine outmaneuvered *every* Jedi in order to convert Anakin.

And every flaw you attribute to Kenobi is a flaw that his master Qui-Gon couldn't fix in training, right? The idea that somehow he'd be able to fix Anakin's flaws just doesn't work for me. Anakin had a larger destiny, and Palpatine would stop at nothing to use him. Only Anakin was capable of making the right choices. His Jedi teachers were there to guide him onto the proper Jedi path, but they can't live his life for him. Dooku turned to the dark side too. Was that because Yoda was an inferior master? And speaking of Dooku . . .

Do you know who trained Qui-Gon? Yep! It was Dooku. A guy who actually turned to the dark side trained the man who you guys think could've kept Anakin from the dark side.

 

[Khev]

Yeah they spent 900 million to make and market the ST just to ignore it on your behalf lol

I might not like the PT as much as I do the OT and ST but i?m not just going to expect them to make believe they were never made.

If AOTC still has a life 18 years after being released i?m sorry to ruin your life but the ST is here to stay and when you and I are almost in the grave the ST kids will have their own eye opening epiphany in the future when a 71 year old Filoni spews out the BIG THEMATIC secret that has been hidden in ST all along lol

Amazing, every word you just said was...100% true, lol.

If I can appreciate SBD's and Droid Gunships in Mando and Palps quoting ROTS dialogue in TROS as well as the freaking awesome TCW finale then the ST can *easily* be redeemed by appropriately cool follow-up material. And that's just for the people who currently *don't* like the ST. For the kids today who will grow up with the theatrical adventures of Rey and Kylo always being a part of them it will be a total non-issue just like it was for the little Duckys and wezys of yesteryear.

The main difference of course being that the ST will always be timeless with regard to the writing, acting, cinematography, and visual effects which will all come to the forefront even more each year as STDS fades and eventually disappears entirely.

 

[Khev]

Do you know who trained Qui-Gon? Yep! It was Dooku. A guy who actually turned to the dark side trained the man who you guys think could've kept Anakin from the dark side.

I saw or read somewhere (possibly another SW Theory video? that guy's demeanor and fandom is just so infectious I enjoy listening to him waxing eloquent even about the PT and EU) that had Qui Gon not been killed that even *Dooku* could have stayed good since with Qui Gon he would have had an alternative ally against the objectively corrupt Senate and incompetent Jedi Council instead of having only Palpatine to side with.

 

[jye4ever]

Something that I always hope my posts do is kind of have the "Filoni effect" on people who may be on the fence about movies I love. I know I'll never change the mind of a hardened hater but I like to think that sometimes my takes *might* help someone who was skewing slightly negative to go "oh wow, okay when you put it like that yeah that is pretty cool, okay I can get behind that!"

But I swear TheDucky is like the anti-Filoni, lol. Whenever I find myself coming around on the PT he comes and just unloads a torrent of STDS induced bashing and then holds the very *worst* aspects of the PT (Kid Boba, "Superstar" Ani, wtf??) above *much* better films and characters. Which triggers my own logic and common sense to the point that I can't help but say um what are you talking about that stuff is garbage, lol.

I'll give you credit ironwez. You wisely shut up on the ST comparisons when you see one of us praising ROTS. *And* you have the good sense to recognize each and every one of that film's faults. I can respect a take that says "man despite the cringey writing, wooden acting, and distracting 2D backdrops there's just a certain charm to the cartoony aesthetic, rich world building and operatic drama that always sucks me in regardless."

But imagine if someone was iffy about the ST and then they go "hmm, you know that final Han scene *was* pretty awesome if I'm being honest" and then I immediately follow with "SEE???? And now do you understand why Rose Tico is GREATER THAN ESB HAN?!???" I'm pretty sure that person would be all "WTF?!? Okay never mind TROS sucks, you ST fans are just too kooky," lol.

Star Wars Theory just posted that after reading TheDucky's rants even he hates the PT now, lol.

I?m just going to come out and say it there is nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING in the PT no cool looking clone troopers or maul battle that is as great as the Rey v Kylo with Han and Leia scene in TROS there just isn?t so sorry.

Palpatine opera is literally the ONLY standalone super standout scene in all of the PT I can?t even add the maul battle because it cuts in and out from complete utter gungan nonsense!

I love ROTS Anakin vs Dooku all 30 seconds of it lol

The PT has even LESS space wars than the spaceless ST.


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[ajp4mgs]

I'm counting on Favreau to have the good sense not to do anything of the sort. Hopefully once Kennedy is ousted the ST will be treated by the new regime with the disrespect it deserves.

You're right on the money: it's all about KK. But as long as she is there, there's no way she's not gonna use Mando to prop up the ST. I think you'd agree that the Child using Force healing would never have happened if they didn't need to do a quick-job version of setting it up before Rey and Ben used it out of nowhere in TROS.

 

[jye4ever]

You're right on the money: it's all about KK. But as long as she is there, there's no way she's not gonna use Mando to prop up the ST. I think you'd agree that the Child using Force healing would never have happened if they didn't need to do a quick-job version of setting it up before Rey and Ben used it out of nowhere in TROS.

Disney set it that BY literally used force healing the night before opening day for TROS lol

But just incase anyone didn?t see that coming don?t worry Filoni will give an epic speech on it very soon.


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[Khev]

I?m just going to come out and say it there is nothing and I mean absolutely NOTHING in the PT no cool looking clone troopers or maul battle that is as great as the Rey v Kylo with Han and Leia scene in TROS there just isn?t so sorry.

So true.

Palpatine opera is literally the ONLY standalone super standout scene in all of the PT

Yeah I think my favorite bit is when Palpatine says "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plageuis the Wise" and then just total silence as we look at both figures from behind and Anakin slowly turns his head with that creepy music playing.

I love ROTS Anakin vs Dooku all 30 seconds of it lol

Yep love Anakin vs. Dooku too. Anakin is a beast and it really makes you wonder what the Council was thinking in deciding to send Obi-Wan to fight Grievous when Dooku took him out after two seconds and would have died had Anakin not done the job right.

 

[Khev]

You're right on the money: it's all about KK. But as long as she is there, there's no way she's not gonna use Mando to prop up the ST. I think you'd agree that the Child using Force healing would never have happened if they didn't need to do a quick-job version of setting it up before Rey and Ben used it out of nowhere in TROS.

Come on ajp, don't drink Ducky's koolaid. Did you complain that Luke used a brand new never before seen on screen power (telekinesis) in the Wampa cave with NO master at all? Rey had the ancient texts. We can easily assume that the texts had long hidden secrets like Force Projection and Force Healing. And she had Leia to help guide her. Last I checked you didn't take issue with Luke using the Force Projection out of the blue either.

 

[Khev]

Disney set it that BY literally used force healing the night before opening day for TROS lol

True but I think we all guessed that BY was trying to heal Mando's arm in Episode 2 though.

 

[ajp4mgs]

I saw or read somewhere (possibly another SW Theory video? that guy's demeanor and fandom is just so infectious I enjoy listening to him waxing eloquent even about the PT and EU) that had Qui Gon not been killed that even *Dooku* could have stayed good since with Qui Gon he would have had an alternative ally against the objectively corrupt Senate and incompetent Jedi Council instead of having only Palpatine to side with.

Man, Qui-Gon is apparently now the greatest Jedi of all time. Didn't Dooku leave the Jedi Order before TPM, though? I gotta believe Palpatine had his eye on that disenchantment. And that's what it comes down to for me: Palpatine! Anakin needed to get close to Palpatine in order to fulfill his destiny. But I don't see how Qui-Gon's training abilities and temperament would've been enough to thwart Palpatine's influence.

Blaming Kenobi (who went on to train Luke) for Anakin turning is just weird to me. Anakin had inherent flaws, and only he himself would've been capable of overcoming them because all of his Jedi mentors were giving him the knowledge he needed. Palps just knew how to play the game better and make the dark side more appealing to a guy who lusted for godlike powers.

Disney set it that BY literally used force healing the night before opening day for TROS lol

But just incase anyone didn?t see that coming don?t worry Filoni will give an epic speech on it very soon.


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Come on ajp, don't drink Ducky's koolaid. Did you complain that Luke used a brand new never before seen on screen power (telekinesis) in the Wampa cave with NO master at all? Rey had the ancient texts. We can easily assume that the texts had long hidden secrets like Force Projection and Force Healing. And she had Leia to help guide her. Last I checked you didn't take issue with Luke using the Force Projection out of the blue either.

The Jedi mind trick came out of nowhere in ANH. And so did every Force trick in the OT when shown for the first time. But you know what makes Force healing different? That Jedi in prior movies had opportunities to use it where they *absolutely* would have! And Anakin most certainly would have. It's a power with much more consequence. Luke's Force projection, at the cost of dying, wouldn't be a desirable choice in any prior situation that I ever saw. That's why I love the fatal consequence of it.

 

[jye4ever]

So true.



Yeah I think my favorite bit is when Palpatine says "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plageuis the Wise" and then just total silence as we look at both figures from behind and Anakin slowly turns his head with that creepy music playing.



Yep love Anakin vs. Dooku too. Anakin is a beast and it really makes you wonder what the Council was thinking in deciding to send Obi-Wan to fight Grievous when Dooku took him out after two seconds and would have died had Anakin not done the job right.

The power structure always confused the hell out of me in AOTC and ROTS.

Anakin with ObiWan together couldn?t defeat Dooku TWICE yet Anakin alone v Dooku and he easily wins WHICH tells me that....

Palpatine was boosting Anakin while also clouding ObiWan making him give goofy one liners instead of taking Dooku seriously lol.

Palpatine wasn?t messing with Dooku though because Dooku would have sensed it which also explains his confidence against Anakin but not realizing that Anakin was being assisted by Palpatine.

Palpatine needed to juggle everything perfectly to set up Anakin murdering Dooku.

Palpatine even gives constructive criticism with his YEAH GET UM lol

Either that or GG is a freaking weak little punk ass ***** lol

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

You're right on the money: it's all about KK. But as long as she is there, there's no way she's not gonna use Mando to prop up the ST. I think you'd agree that the Child using Force healing would never have happened if they didn't need to do a quick-job version of setting it up before Rey and Ben used it out of nowhere in TROS.

Yes I would agree that is a likely possibility. It's also possible that Kennedy decided to rip The Mandalorian off after she heard about it. I'm not sure at this point that she even has the leverage over Favreau to compel him to do anything in regards to the show. There were once rumors she got kicked off the set, and when you do see her lingering around the show she doesn't look all that important.

Right now we know basically nothing about The Child's background or abilities. We only know he is powerful and the same species as the Yoda. Season two should be very interesting as we should have a much better idea what is actually behind the curtain. How the cute little green guy is handled will go a long way in making or breaking the show because it won't all be a mystery anymore, they are going to have to start explaining some things.