The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[xipotec]

Rebels getting love.....finally.

The FO grew out of the Rebels over policing of the out rim world that were used to doing things their own way. Several worlds started to sow dissent against Leia saying she would be another Emperor. They broke away and began the FO.

Palpatine was ?backing up? his soul, alla Voldemort with the Horcuxes. He would clone himself and imbibe parts of his souls into the clones in case he was killed. Each clone however required a constant supply of force blood to survive. Which is why he is in such poor shape in ST. His quest to wipe out the Jedi actually backfired on him and his hubris is thinking he would never need them again.


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[ZE_501]

[...] The FO grew out of the Rebels over policing of the out rim world that were used to doing things their own way. Several worlds started to sow dissent against Leia saying she would be another Emperor. They broke away and began the FO.[...]
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Really?

"That control freak is gonna be another despotic fascist emperor! We're outta here!"

*promptly produce an uber-fascist genocidal regime*

 

[Prime Clone]

Rebels getting love.....finally.

The FO grew out of the Rebels over policing of the out rim world that were used to doing things their own way. Several worlds started to sow dissent against Leia saying she would be another Emperor. They broke away and began the FO.

Palpatine was ?backing up? his soul, alla Voldemort with the Horcuxes. He would clone himself and imbibe parts of his souls into the clones in case he was killed. Each clone however required a constant supply of force blood to survive. Which is why he is in such poor shape in ST. His quest to wipe out the Jedi actually backfired on him and his hubris is thinking he would never need them again.

Interesting how Leia became the Emperor ?from a certain point of view? - and her son joined the other side. Too bad this wasn?t really spelt out in the films.

As for Palps, would it be fair to say Jedi were content to become Force ghosts but Sith demanded a corporeal existence?

 

[a-dev]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1331048523312218113

Mandalorian has done something right if it gets away with a moment like this. I was lolling.

Hope this link works, can't seem to save and post the GIF directly. If not it's the bit where baby yoda pukes on himself and Mando is wiping it up while flying the ship.

 

[xipotec]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1331048523312218113

Mandalorian has done something right if it gets away with a moment like this. I was lolling.

Hope this link works, can't seem to save and post the GIF directly. If not it's the bit where baby yoda pukes on himself and Mando is wiping it up while flying the ship.

I am surprised we did not hear about safe driving practices after this scene.......


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[ZE_501]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1331048523312218113

Mandalorian has done something right if it gets away with a moment like this. I was lolling.

Hope this link works, can't seem to save and post the GIF directly. If not it's the bit where baby yoda pukes on himself and Mando is wiping it up while flying the ship.

Dyyyyyiiiing. Then and now. They totally sold it.

I am surprised we did not hear about safe driving practices after this scene.......


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Was just thinking about that.

 

[a-dev]

Dyyyyyiiiing. Then and now. They totally sold it.

With Mando it's like they've taken ESB Boba Fett and Uncle Bobified him. It works for me. I love seeing his increasing attachment to BY. I expect it'll pay off bigtime further down the line.

Meanwhile, because they've done this with Mando, it means they won't necessarily be tempted to do it with Boba Fett himself.

 

[Khev]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1331048523312218113

Mandalorian has done something right if it gets away with a moment like this. I was lolling.

Hope this link works, can't seem to save and post the GIF directly. If not it's the bit where baby yoda pukes on himself and Mando is wiping it up while flying the ship.

That's so funny. Those of us who are parents have that move so engrained into our psyche that most of us didn't even notice that it's totally unprecedented (and hilariously so) to see it in Star Wars. Wiping up spit up is just so automatic when you have a baby, whether you use a cloth, towel, your bare hand...whatever is in reach, no matter what is going on. And holy crap he did it in the middle of a dog fight and then blew off meeting up with his friends again because he was just over it. This show is beyond awesome.

 

[darth dennis]

With Mando it's like they've taken ESB Boba Fett and Uncle Bobified him. It works for me. I love seeing his increasing attachment to BY. I expect it'll pay off bigtime further down the line.

Meanwhile, because they've done this with Mando, it means they won't necessarily be tempted to do it with Boba Fett himself.

I agree and really hope that is the case. While I can live with Fett showing up to assist Mando in exchange for getting his armor back, I hope it's as simple as that and then a Fett series where he's a bit more ruthless throughout.

 

[Sassafras]

With Mando it's like they've taken ESB Boba Fett and Uncle Bobified him. It works for me. I love seeing his increasing attachment to BY. I expect it'll pay off bigtime further down the line.

Meanwhile, because they've done this with Mando, it means they won't necessarily be tempted to do it with Boba Fett himself.

The funny part for me - well, it was all funny - was Mando bein' proud of himself and then...LOL.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Watched Chapter 12 for a third time. I really don't think the dark troopers will be connected with the midichlorian blood from the baby. With the context given at the end of the episode, I'm looking at it as almost zero chance of being connected. I expect that they'll be full-on droids used to again evoke Din's trauma from being hunted by the Super Battle Droids as a kid.

I'm expecting the "m-count" blood to have a more drawn-out purpose than the dark troopers. I wouldn't be surprised to see the DT's deployed by the end of the season in Gideon's attempt to snatch the baby, whereas the midichlorian stuff won't be wrapped up anytime soon.

Very curious to know who "the volunteer" is. A vague identification like that suggests it's someone we know, but I'm beating myself up for not being able to decipher who it will end up being.

I need to be honest, though: this show is consistently plagued by an unfortunate amount of lazy plot conveniences. But then I see that dogfight with the Crest and the TIE's yet again, and . . .

 

[xipotec]

Mmmmmm.

The volunteer? Me thinks It?s a captured Jedi......


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[Khev]

Mmmmmm.

The volunteer? Me thinks It?s a captured Jedi......

Rey's dad.

 

[Khev]

Sorry about my crappy timing.

The "6 years prior to TFA" isn't necessarily when everything went down, but it's the *earliest* that those events you listed could've happened (if you take novels as canon). And with respect to connecting with The Mandalorian, the FO had not emerged in public prior to that point - which is about 20 years after the current Mando timeline.

It's when Leia decided to start investigating potentially nefarious activity involving shady underworld dealings. When she realized the scope of what was actually going on (that it had much broader implications than just an underground crime syndicate), it eventually led her to form the Resistance.

At that same time, Ben was still Luke's student and Han was still with Leia. But we don't know exactly how long thereafter Ben slaughtered the other students. What is certain is that it could *not* be more than six years prior to TFA, but could be as few as 2-3 years. Maybe the comics get more specific than the novels, but I didn't read many of the comics.

The key takeaway from the novels is that the New Republic Senate had FO plants working there covertly to cover up their existence and expansion. Leia got too close to discovering their plot and was disgraced out of her position in the Senate for it (to limit her influence there). And this was the turning point in her being forced to splinter off and investigate (and ultimately combat) Snoke and the FO in a non-government capacity.

Even to someone as in-the-loop with the New Republic hierarchy as Leia was, the FO was completely off the radar and not known to exist until that point. So, during the Mando timeline (20-25 years prior to TFA), any exposure of the FO would have to be compatible with being outside the notice of the New Republic. Otherwise it'll be yet another significant retcon.

This may help. Note BBY, ABY etc have been replaced by BSI & ASI...

Cool, thanks guys.

Yeah I definitely hope that Mando handles the creation of the FO with a delicate touch. Like you say ajp if they rush to make them a superpower too quickly then it really does make the New Republic out to be complete idiots and possibly Leia as well for not branching off from them sooner.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Mmmmmm.

The volunteer? Me thinks It?s a captured Jedi......

That'd be pretty weird if "the volunteer" is someone who is going to have a midichlorian blood transfusion. Presumably, a captured Jedi would already have a high count naturally. Unless they're trying to take the high count and turn it into an *enormous* count, kinda like "Force steroids."

Cool, thanks guys.

Yeah I definitely hope that Mando handles the creation of the FO with a delicate touch. Like you say ajp if they rush to make them a superpower too quickly then it really does make the New Republic out to be complete idiots and possibly Leia as well for not branching off from them sooner.

Anyone who learns about the FO's existence in Mando (if F&F do go there) has to either be killed before they can get the word out, or has to have a damn good reason for keeping it quiet.

The idiocy of the New Republic is already escalating in Mando to the point where they're gonna have to turn many of them into conspirators for this to end up making sense.

At the end of Chapter 12 when the X-wings are parked outside, and that one pilot questions Greef about the Imperial base being destroyed, the clear implication is that the Republic monitors the area closely. Yet they hadn't bothered to do anything about an Imperial base full of troopers, TIE's, transports, and speeders. WTF?

 

[Khev]

Anyone who learns about the FO's existence in Mando (if F&F do go there) has to either be killed before they can get the word out, or has to have a damn good reason for keeping it quiet.

The idiocy of the New Republic is already escalating in Mando to the point where they're gonna have to turn many of them into conspirators for this to end up making sense.

Ha ha, yes. I mean on the one hand they have these deep space X-Wing patrols that will harass lowly unmarked transports on the off chance that they're shuttling Imperial stowaways while massive Imperial cruisers operate in the open with easy to spot Stormtroopers walking around on the *outside* of the ship?? The New Republic doesn't have rewards for information about, oh I don't know, *massive Imperial cruisers* that make regular trips to fishing towns full of mercenaries eager to cash in on such rewards?

At the end of Chapter 12 when the X-wings are parked outside, and that one pilot questions Greef about the Imperial base being destroyed, the clear implication is that the Republic monitors the area closely. Yet they hadn't bothered to do anything about an Imperial base full of troopers, TIE's, transports, and speeders. WTF?

It'd be cool if Chapter 13 began with Filoni and his X-Wing buddy heading back to their ships after questioning Greef and then you see the shady Mimban mechanic tinkering with one of the X-Wings and then quickly going about other business. Filoni and the Asian guy take off, leave the atmosphere, one of them says "okay once we log this report back at base they'll definitely send us some extra personnel to see just what the hell is going on out here. Prepare for lightspeed on my mark and..." and then something starts flashing red on their control panels and beeping frantically, they freak out and both fighters explode in the cold dark of space without anyone knowing what happened or where they were.

 

[ZE_501]

I?m all for vaporizing Filoni.


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[The Buffinator]

At the end of Chapter 12 when the X-wings are parked outside, and that one pilot questions Greef about the Imperial base being destroyed, the clear implication is that the Republic monitors the area closely. Yet they hadn't bothered to do anything about an Imperial base full of troopers, TIE's, transports, and speeders. WTF?

I interpreted it as the Republic was spread pretty thin in the outer rim, so while they weren't aware of activity at the supposedly abandoned Imperial base it did draw their attention when there was a MASSIVE EXPLOSION at its location.

 

[Sassafras]

At the end of Chapter 12 when the X-wings are parked outside, and that one pilot questions Greef about the Imperial base being destroyed, the clear implication is that the Republic monitors the area closely. Yet they hadn't bothered to do anything about an Imperial base full of troopers, TIE's, transports, and speeders. WTF?

Didn't get that...it's kind of covered IMO with the pilot talking about the core worlds not believing anything is going on; that they couldn't track stuff without local help. Greef mentions something about "if you're ever back here" - or something like that.

Plus Season 1, Mando didn't think much of the New Republic as far as an assist; and Greef mentions all that's left are mercenaries and warlords.

So if you're doing flybys of some Outer Rim settlements even if u see a pile of Empire stuff, do u stop an investigate, or what. There must be war junk everywhere like the leftover WWII bunkers and towers and buildings. U.S., Europe, Asia - there's abandoned stuff everywhere. Also Cara and Cobb Vanth installed themselves as marshalls, which is like the Old West where the locals have to take stuff into their own hands. There isn't anyone else.

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The show seems to be telling us that Moff Gideon wants The Child's midi-chlorians, perhaps to make his own line of Force-sensitive super-soldiers. Can you say if that theory's in the galactic ballpark?

Well, in the galactic ballpark, I think we're all trying to figure out what does he really wants. Somewhere in my brain, I hold out something and he has some kind of ethical consideration here. When people flow out of control and there are all these different Moffs who've been assigned different areas to be wardens of, isn't there one person or someone that may have guidance over all of them? They're questions that are answered. It could be super soldiers. It could be that he wants to save the galaxy. Also, why does Moff Gideon know everything about what's going on everywhere? He has some kind of incredible intelligence source. So I always hold out that there may be an altruistic reason that he is taking control or trying to. Certainly, the child represents the possibility of a new humanity of a new consciousness.

And much as I luv this show not paying 50$ for some cookies, even if they are French. Macarons not macaroons.
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[ajp4mgs]

I interpreted it as the Republic was spread pretty thin in the outer rim, so while they weren't aware of activity at the supposedly abandoned Imperial base it did draw their attention when there was a MASSIVE EXPLOSION at its location.

That base was a laboratory location of ongoing cloning experiments. The stormtroopers were out in plain sight when Din flew up to that level and had to shoot them. And those TIE's that took off from there to chase Greef and Cara wouldn't have pilots at the ready if they weren't stationed there to conduct flights to escort incoming materials and staff over the months/years of the operation there. You wouldn't have several pilots and gear there if all they ever did was sit around with their thumbs up their butts waiting for trouble.

I bring this up to point out that Nevarro was the location of a substantial skirmish with Imperial remnants in Season 1. You are asking me to believe that the New Republic remained unaware of an ongoing (active!) Imperial presence on that planet that they'd want to keep a close watch on.

To me, they'd be patrolling that otherwise nondescript planet *because* of the Imperial Remnant that became abundantly clear was operating there during last season's events. Yet flying by and never noticing Imperial movement to and from that lab? Never destroying the TIE's and transports that were out in plain sight in a region known to have active Imperial Remnant activity? That doesn't pass the smell test for me, but I understand that's just me.

Didn't get that...it's kind of covered IMO with the pilot talking about the core worlds not believing anything is going on; that they couldn't track stuff without local help. Greef mentions something about "if you're ever back here" - or something like that.

Plus Season 1, Mando didn't think much of the New Republic as far as an assist; and Greef mentions all that's left are mercenaries and warlords.

So if you're doing flybys of some Outer Rim settlements even if u see a pile of Empire stuff, do u stop an investigate, or what. There must be war junk everywhere like the leftover WWII bunkers and towers and buildings. U.S., Europe, Asia - there's abandoned stuff everywhere. Also Cara and Cobb Vanth installed themselves as marshalls, which is like the Old West where the locals have to take stuff into their own hands. There isn't anyone else.

Remember that episode last season when Filoni and the other guy destroyed the outpost no questions asked (essentially)? That wasn't even an Imperial post. So you don't find it inconsistent that they'd be able to spot Imperial vessels at that lab, on a planet where significant Imperial activity would've/should've been reported from last season's events, and take no action?

See my response above for more context. If you guys are cool with it, then that's great. But for me, it's just kinda shoddy. It can be very fairly dismissed as nitpicky, but this stuff tends to pile up. And it has been.