The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[ajp4mgs]

Pretty much agree on every point here. I prefer Fett as a villain, not the Mando with a code of honour which he never really was. We'll leave that stuff to Din Djarin.
The question now is, is Fett going to start his own crime empire, or is he on Tatooine to "clean up the town". I'm expecting the return of Cobb Vanth to the BoBF too.

Uh oh! I hadn't even considered that as a real possibility. But damn, it's a fair question given the absence of any established protagonist and the fact that Boba's only been killing bad guys. Ugh, what a buzzkill.

 

[Khev]

I'd love that but I'm curious how it would work. CV is the sheriff of a decidedly "one-horse town" (Mos Pelgo) in the middle of nowhere with limited resources, so not exactly a prime target to be exploited by a crime syndicate. I suppose he could decide to move on from there now that there's a truce with the Sand People.

I wonder if the mining guild will return now that their protector is without his fancy weapons and armor. It'd be *super* cliche but would the town try and pool their resources and offer Fett payment for protection? If so how would he react?

I'd actually be open to seeing that as long as he still remained "my" Boba Fett in the process (like he clears out the mining goons but then blows away Cobb in front of everyone for mouthing off to him.)

Though I suppose work for hire of any kind might be a straight up thing of the past with his new day job of full time crime boss.

 

[ZE_501]

[...] Well like you I only care about the end result and not who was behind it.

This is true, although I find myself casting about for an explanation as to what happened (err...as I see it), hence throwing shade at the vaunted 'story group'.

Since I do see each and every film in the ST as being of extremely high quality from a filmmaking standpoint (acting, dialogue, visuals, editing, cinematography, score, etc.)

To an extent so do I. The acting *overall* is actually as good or better than a lot of what we saw in the OT. Dialogue has some clunkers but so does the OT. Visuals are just nuts, editing is very good, cinematography was beautiful, likewise the score. Concept and narrative thrust arouse hate in my pants, though.

I know that some people (not necessarily you) like inventing their little conspiracy theories that back the narratives that they want to imagine and will claim that LFL or KK just wanted kill all the OT heroes. But from my vantage point it's pretty clear that Ford himself wanted his character to die and Carrie's character *had* to be written out of the Saga since she herself passed. So you had Luke who was written to die as part of the story by the filmmakers themselves while the other two leads had to bow out for reasons that the writers and directors couldn't control.

Ford may have had that much power, and Carrie did pass away. Even if they had to go, I maintain it was mishandled based on my endless diatribes against the concept of the whole ST.

Rather than get endlessly bent out of shape and spend my days contorting reality to fit my narrative I prefer to instead say "okay so how good a job did the writers do with the cards they were dealt?" And for the most part my answer tends to be "pretty damn good."

In fairness, they were dealt a rough hand.

No we didn't get Han, Luke, and Leia in the same scene again.

In hindsight that bugged me, but I never realized it while it was happening. I was complaining about other things.

I'm not gonna just arbitrarily write-off the entire trilogy because of one missed opportunity of reuniting the main three.

Nor should anyone, IMO. Not for that alone.

At the end of the day I think that the actual scriptwriters (Abrams, Kasdan, RJ, and Terrio) greatly overruled whatever stupid agenda crap the "story group" might have been about and I do believe that all four would qualify as "true fans" of SW.

More than anything, when I'm geeking out over this stuff, I wish I knew what *actually* happened. There is no peace in this life.

 

[ZE_501]

[...] Though I suppose work for hire of any kind might be a straight up thing of the past with his new life phase of therapy, healing and crying a lot.

Well, he's still got to make a living and he does have Fennec to keep him safe.

 

[jye4ever]

Same.



Well like you I only care about the end result and not who was behind it. Since I do see each and every film in the ST as being of extremely high quality from a filmmaking standpoint (acting, dialogue, visuals, editing, cinematography, score, etc.) and I do like how the OT Legacy characters were handled (for the most part, yes I could do without Leia Poppins and a few other things) I don't really care *what* kind of people were in that writers room. I like what I like and for me these films delivered.

I know that some people (not necessarily you) like inventing their little conspiracy theories that back the narratives that they want to imagine and will claim that LFL or KK just wanted kill all the OT heroes. But from my vantage point it's pretty clear that Ford himself wanted his character to die and Carrie's character *had* to be written out of the Saga since she herself passed. So you had Luke who was written to die as part of the story by the filmmakers themselves while the other two leads had to bow out for reasons that the writers and directors couldn't control.

Rather than get endlessly bent out of shape and spend my days contorting reality to fit my narrative I prefer to instead say "okay so how good a job did the writers do with the cards they were dealt?" And for the most part my answer tends to be "pretty damn good." No we didn't get Han, Luke, and Leia in the same scene again. But they did appear in the same movie. And we did get Han and Leia together and then Luke and Leia together. Plus Luke and R2, Luke and 3PO, Luke and Yoda, and Chewie and so forth.

I'm not gonna just arbitrarily write-off the entire trilogy because of one missed opportunity of reuniting the main three. Did the OT show Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme together? No, each trilogy has its core heroes who operate together with those same heroes serving a different purpose in other trilogies. If I want to watch the big three together well I've got the OT for that.

At the end of the day I think that the actual scriptwriters (Abrams, Kasdan, RJ, and Terrio) greatly overruled whatever stupid agenda crap the "story group" might have been about and I do believe that all four would qualify as "true fans" of SW.

Yeah I honestly don’t get it Khev.

I’m not married to KK (then again my wife just came to me and said she is a watching a new Paranormal Activity movie I go and look and she’s watching Invisible Man ) so when i’m watching the ST i’m not thinking of KK.

I judge the PT and ST on which succeeded with their core narrative.

PT Anakin friendship with ObiWan and Anakin’s Fall = FAIL

Just 2 characters he had to get right for the core narrative and Lucas failed.

ST Han, Luke, Leia, Rey and Kylo all had successful arcs. 5 characters!

Clear as day for me.

 

[xipotec]

I just want Fett to be:

1. A jerk
2. A villain
3. A badass

However they want to operate within the confines of those three characteristics above I'll probably be okay with. As others have said the Saga doesn't need any more opportunistic scoundrels who suddenly have an attack of conscience and develop hearts of gold. We've got Han for that. And Lando, and Din Djarin (so we REALLY don't need a *second* Mandalorian "best in the galaxy" bounty hunter who develops morals for crying out loud.)

The Saga needs more Jabbas, Bobas, and Grievouses, especially ones that can hang around for more than one movie and serve as recurring threats. So that's why I'm opposed to Boba Fett evolving away from that and into something else (especially something else that is already over-represented in SW.)

HERE HERE! Where are all the bad guys? I mean besides the random troopers...that die seconds after introduced?

But I am also pretty sure I do not want to see Inquisitors.

How about a local warlord type? Rouge former Star Destroyer Captain?
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[Khev]

Well, he's still got to make a living and he does have Fennec to keep him safe.

Oh we're back to that now are we, lol.

So be it...bastard.

 

[Knightstalker]

Uh oh! I hadn't even considered that as a real possibility. But damn, it's a fair question given the absence of any established protagonist and the fact that Boba's only been killing bad guys. Ugh, what a buzzkill.

Just a possibility, though the fact that he sat on the throne like a king suggests to me that he's bascially saying "I'm running this show now". And I do want him to remain a villain, don't need another Din Djarin.

 

[TheDucky]

Wanna know what is funny?

The PT haters, who hated the idea of midi-chlorians, are now praising that same idea in a desperate attempt to keep the ST alive, in regards to Grogu’s blood and Snoke outlandish theories.

 

[Khev]

ST Han, Luke, Leia, Rey and Kylo all had successful arcs. 5 characters!

Yep, plus Lando and Chewie each having moments to shine, 3PO the funniest he's *ever* been, an awesome death for Snoke and Palps in top form. That plus all the great visuals, cinematography and music, so much to love.

 

[jye4ever]

Wanna know what is funny?

The PT haters, who hated the idea of midi-chlorians, are now praising that same idea in a desperate attempt to keep the ST alive, in regards to Grogu’s blood and Snoke outlandish theories.

Not accurate.

PT haters are probably excited at the prospect of many talented people giving the PT characters a new lease on life with quality writing and directing.

Obi Anakin relationship building bring it i’m ready for it.

The ST thankfully doesn’t need that severe level of upgrading.

Lucasfilm is literally putting their best talent forward in an all out attempt to finally get the PT out of the cinematic embarrassment hole it’s been for all of these agonizing years.

It will take massive infusion of TCW and Rebel cartoon characters to do it but if it works so be it.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Just a possibility, though the fact that he sat on the throne like a king suggests to me that he's bascially saying "I'm running this show now". And I do want him to remain a villain, don't need another Din Djarin.

I'm glad you brought it up. In my head, I'm always defaulting to Fett as a villain, so it was a bit of a wake-up call to consider the possibility that it'll go in a different direction.

I see so many dangling plot threads already within this timeline (Thrawn; Grogu blood; Luke; Din with the darksaber; Ahsoka; and on and on), it does make me wonder where Fett will fit in, and to what purpose.

 

[Khev]

Wanna know what is funny?

The PT haters, who hated the idea of midi-chlorians, are now praising that same idea in a desperate attempt to keep the ST alive, in regards to Grogu?s blood and Snoke outlandish theories.

One of the reasons I don't bother engaging you Ducky is because you have absolutely zero interest in finding common ground. Rather than celebrating the fact that the Mandalorian is bridging fans between the various trilogies and helping some naysayers see things in a different light you make up stupid crap like the post above just to fan the flames of a bickering atmosphere. Nobody who ever had a problem with midichlorians suddenly *likes* them for heaven's sake. But it is worth noting when a show can take a negative and make it more acceptable so kudos always for that.

There's just too much to love across the different eras and a lot of us are just having way too much fun being a fan to bother with petty nonsense. If I were you I'd be thrilled that so many people are looking forward to shows featuring your favorite characters and not trying to actively get under those same people's skins. I recommend just chilling out and enjoying the party.

 

[Khev]

I'm glad you brought it up. In my head, I'm always defaulting to Fett as a villain, so it was a bit of a wake-up call to consider the possibility that it'll go in a different direction.

I see so many dangling plot threads already within this timeline (Thrawn; Grogu blood; Luke; Din with the darksaber; Ahsoka; and on and on), it does make me wonder where Fett will fit in, and to what purpose.

They really could just steal George's ST and swap Maul with Fett and Talon with Fennec couldn't they, lol.

 

[Knightstalker]

I'm glad you brought it up. In my head, I'm always defaulting to Fett as a villain, so it was a bit of a wake-up call to consider the possibility that it'll go in a different direction.

I see so many dangling plot threads already within this timeline (Thrawn; Grogu blood; Luke; Din with the darksaber; Ahsoka; and on and on), it does make me wonder where Fett will fit in, and to what purpose.

I loved the way they potrayed Boba in the season finale, just the right amount of snark, aggression and nastiness. Really hope they keep his personality like that, or ramp it up. After disliking the redub of Boba by Temuera in the ESB, i absolutely loved his growly voice in the Mandalorian. God damn perfection.

 

[Khev]

I loved the way they potrayed Boba in the season finale, just the right amount of snark, aggression and nastiness. Really hope they keep his personality like that, or ramp it up. After disliking the redub of Boba by Temuera in the ESB, i absolutely loved his growly voice in the Mandalorian. God damn perfection.

Seriously man! What the hell!! I'm right there with you. What freaking timeline am I in where I'm loving TM's voice as Fett. Did an Infinity Stone get removed and not put back or something, lol.

 

[a-dev]

I'm not gonna just arbitrarily write-off the entire trilogy because of one missed opportunity of reuniting the main three.

Does anyone? It was one of the crimes of those films which I happened to bring up in the past few days here but hardly the only reason to write them off if one is inclined to do so.

 

[ajp4mgs]

They really could just steal George's ST and swap Maul with Fett and Talon with Fennec couldn't they, lol.

Without a doubt my preferred scenario.

I loved the way they potrayed Boba in the season finale, just the right amount of snark, aggression and nastiness. Really hope they keep his personality like that, or ramp it up. After disliking the redub of Boba by Temuera in the ESB, i absolutely loved his growly voice in the Mandalorian. God damn perfection.

I'm not quite all the way there on embracing Morrison's Fett, but his snapbacks with Bo-Katan and Koska were the start of doing so for me. I can at least see turning the corner into eventually blending his original ESB voice and attitude with this new version in my mind.

 

[Wor-Gar]

At the end of the day though, Lucas isn't really much of a director. I mean he has directed Star Wars and that is about it. Everything else he is generally an executive producer. He won't be remembered in history as a director as an even important trait.

That is the point I want to get across. As a director, the guy has only worked on one franchise. So as a director I think its fair to give more credit to Favreau, who has done far more movies and a larger variety of movies to great success.

As a pure force of creativity in Hollywood, Lucas needs to get a lot of credit. I am not trying to take that away. From that perspective there are only a handful of people that can be in that club.

Totally agree.

 

[Knightstalker]

Seriously man! What the hell!! I'm right there with you. What freaking timeline am I in where I'm loving TM's voice as Fett. Did an Infinity Stone get removed and not put back or something, lol.

Probably because he didn't record his lines over the phone like he did for the redub. Temuera quite literally phoned it in haha.