The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

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Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread

It was a little more than "a game of catch".


And I think it's a great story, I just think, film wise they could have made it better by cutting and eliminating things (even things I absolutely love) to fit the narrative and plot better.

To put things in perspective, The Hobbit has a running time of roughly, 2 hours and 40 minutes. This is the ground they cover from Bag End to just outside the Misty Mountains,


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The focus juggles between the main protagonists and outside forces and not much ground is covered. They only get up to Out of the Frying Pan and into the Fire, which is chapter 6 in a relatively smaller book.





With Fellowship of the Ring, it's a 2 hour and 50 minute movie and they cover much more characters and juggle between multiple protagonists (Frodo, Sam, Gandalf, Aragorn, Boromir) and more ground. It's a much tighter film. We go from the Shire all the way to Amon Hen - Emyn Muil. It not only covers all of book 1 and 2 of The Fellowship of the Ring, a much larger book, but we get a glimpse of the beginning of the Two Towers with the death and funeral of Boromir, the capture of Merry and Pippin, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli hunting the orcs and Frodo and Sam at Emyn Muil.



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There's actually a sense of transition from location to location. From Bag End, to Brandywine, to Bree, to Rivendell, etc. etc. With this Unexpected Journey, it's all over the place.



Not saying it's terrible or anything, I loved it, but I think film wise and thematically, it could have benefited greatly from the things people are suggesting. There's more good than bad, but the bad things are a little annoying when this is the same group of people/collaborators that have worked on this stuff for years.

Well said! I agree wholeheartedly. The transition in this movie were nowhere near as apparent as in the LOTR. The entire scene with Radagast on sled being chased by Orcs was silly and you could see that the landscape wasn't the same in every shot.

As for the stone giants, I know they were in the book but I would've handled them differently. It would have been ok to just show their shadows in the distance, hurling rocks at one another instead of making them into mountains. Not what I had envisioned when I read the book.
 
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I'm with Josh here...
Even though they added stuff that wasn't on the books, it still felt like swift roll to me.
I think a lot of people are so used to instant gratification nowadays and shorter attention spans, that they cannot enjoy movies like this.

It adds a lot to the world, it makes it feel real, and it makes you dive into it.

To me it didn't feel long at all, but honestly if you've watched the LOTR movies or King Kong, you should know how Jackson likes to tell the stories... :lol

If anything, for me it was too short! :D

Cannot wait to see it again!
 
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Get off my **** Jye! Your nose is always up my Hobbit hole.
 
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I was just messing with Josh. :(

I know, jeez, don't cry.

Your Shire sure stinks though, have you tried increasing your fiber. :lol

My hole is not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. It's a DiFabio-hole, and that means comfort.
 
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I know, jeez, don't cry.



My hole is not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. It's a DiFabio-hole, and that means comfort.

Spit out Boba Fett will ya. :rotfl
 
Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread

It was a little more than "a game of catch".


And I think it's a great story, I just think, film wise they could have made it better by cutting and eliminating things (even things I absolutely love) to fit the narrative and plot better.

To put things in perspective, The Hobbit has a running time of roughly, 2 hours and 40 minutes. This is the ground they cover from Bag End to just outside the Misty Mountains,


m1_zpsf03da306.jpg



The focus juggles between the main protagonists and outside forces and not much ground is covered. They only get up to Out of the Frying Pan and into the Fire, which is chapter 6 in a relatively smaller book.





With Fellowship of the Ring, it's a 2 hour and 50 minute movie and they cover much more characters and juggle between multiple protagonists (Frodo, Sam, Gandalf, Aragorn, Boromir) and more ground. It's a much tighter film. We go from the Shire all the way to Amon Hen - Emyn Muil. It not only covers all of book 1 and 2 of The Fellowship of the Ring, a much larger book, but we get a glimpse of the beginning of the Two Towers with the death and funeral of Boromir, the capture of Merry and Pippin, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli hunting the orcs and Frodo and Sam at Emyn Muil.



m2_zps6d45d11f.jpg



There's actually a sense of transition from location to location. From Bag End, to Brandywine, to Bree, to Rivendell, etc. etc. With this Unexpected Journey, it's all over the place.



Not saying it's terrible or anything, I loved it, but I think film wise and thematically, it could have benefited greatly from the things people are suggesting. There's more good than bad, but the bad things are a little annoying when this is the same group of people/collaborators that have worked on this stuff for years.

Dwarfs have shorter legs. :lol

I guess I just watch movies and either like them or not. I don't study them like this. I can't. I'd go crazy. :D
 
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What would you have cut out?

While I thought the first part was great and wouldn't cut anything out of it, I would have cut out the bunny chase. I think it could've ended with Radagast saying his bunnies could outrun the orcs, and left it at that. Next thing we see would be the dwarves reaching the rock passage with Gandalf and the orcs gaining on them. I think that scene can easily be edited out, not that PJ would ever do that.
 
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Yeah, that figure isn't very good. :lol
 
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While I thought the first part was great and wouldn't cut anything out of it, I would have cut out the bunny chase. I think it could've ended with Radagast saying his bunnies could outrun the orcs, and left it at that. Next thing we see would be the dwarves reaching the rock passage with Gandalf and the orcs gaining on them. I think that scene can easily be edited out, not that PJ would ever do that.

I have to wonder if there is a reason for it being there. Maybe something in the next one?

But yes, as it is, it could be taken out and not missed.
 
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What I find silly is when you see directors/Hollywood adapting a book into a movie a lot of people complain that they leave far too much out of the movie that were in the books. "The book is better because it has more content not seen in the movie" "They should have included this. They should have included that. Blah Blah Blah."

THEN when a filmaker actually goes and takes all the meat and goodness/story and packs it into three three hour films then you get another group (possibly the same type) complaining that its way too long. Its "dragged out". Blah Blah Blah.

They are damned if they do and damned if they dont. But personally, Im glad PJ is looking out for the actual fans versus the general audience because those are the people that will continue to watch these films over and over again. So those that thought it was dragged out...Boo Hoo. Get over it. It is what it is.

Im in the camp that cant get enough of Middle Earth. I love it. I love the world. The characters. The magic of it all. Its beautiful to watch and look at so the more the merrier IMO.

I also went to this with my wife that isnt all that much interested in Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit, but she enjoyed the movie and didnt feel it dragged either. And shes usually one of those "instant gratification" types as well so I was surprised to hear that from her. So really, if she can sit through this film with no complaints... I really dont know what you others are *****ing about. :lol :lol :lol
 
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I have to wonder if there is a reason for it being there. Maybe something in the next one?

But yes, as it is, it could be taken out and not missed.

Aye radagast turns up at the final battle with his army of bunnies:lol
 
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