The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

[EVILFACE]

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Liked Fellowship, thought it should have won best picture that year.
Loved Two Towers, my favorite of the LOTR flicks.
Thought King was a bloated never ending mess, but was still good.

Didn't like The Hobbit at all.
- The HFR made the movie look like a video game. The CGI and makeup for everyone looked awful.
- The tone was childish. I understand the book was written for kiddies, but the movie version is rewritten, expanded and given a PG13 rating so the tone should have been brought up.
- Talking trolls? In LOTR they were feared beasts. In this they are talking morons. My eyes were rolling out of my head during the Three Cooking Troll Stooges scene.
- The Brown Wizard. It was nice seeing one of the Doctors again, but was that bird **** running down his face?
- Bilbo Baggins. Whoever played them was trying their best to imitate Jason Bateman.
- The video game ending. Srsly, everyone running past and slaughtering wave after wave of Orcs with no loss on their end, was silly.

I did love:
- Bilbo vs Smeagol. That was well done.
- Once the big birds showed at the end. Tossing the Orcs off into the ravine and the shots of them flying afterwards was nice.
- It ended.

Not sure if I will bother with the rest of the movies.

 

[Rzeznikk]

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Im glad I havent seen it in 48 FPS since you dont get that sense of everything being fake with a regular 24 FPS viewing, although ID like to see it a second time in 48 FPS to see what everyone is *****ing about.

And yeah if you dont like the talking Trolls then you probably wont like the other movies. Talking Bear, Talking Dragon. But in the Trolls defense, its exactly how they are portrayed in the book.

 

[Adolfo]

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Yeah agreed the stone giant scene doesn't really add anything apart from a loud set piece. I'd be happy with them seeing one rock getting hurled from the distance causing them to take shelter or something.

agreed...simpler would be better

 

[Adolfo]

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I'm with Josh here...
Even though they added stuff that wasn't on the books, it still felt like swift roll to me.
I think a lot of people are so used to instant gratification nowadays and shorter attention spans, that they cannot enjoy movies like this.

It adds a lot to the world, it makes it feel real, and it makes you dive into it.

To me it didn't feel long at all, but honestly if you've watched the LOTR movies or King Kong, you should know how Jackson likes to tell the stories...

If anything, for me it was too short!

Cannot wait to see it again!

100% agreed

 

[Snadinator]

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Sorry but the trolls talked in The Hobbit. That is exactly how Tolkien wrote it. In fact the eagles are supposed to talk too. If you remember in Fellowship of the Ring, Bilbo was telling the hobbit children about the trolls and how they argued how they would cook him until the sunlight appeared and turned them to stone. This represents Bilbo's insightful nature in how he used delay tactics.

 

[Adolfo]

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This personally is my favorite film of the year...being a Tolkien fans helps too...the changes from the book that would normally annoy me were done so well that it didnt bother me as much...The LOTR changes from the book and some of the cheesy scenes bothered me more ...

 

[Irvy]

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This personally is my favorite film of the year...being a Tolkien fans helps too...the changes from the book that would any me were done so well that it didnt bother me as much...The LOTR changes from the book and some of the cheesy scenes bothered me more ...

 

[Adolfo]

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I would have shortened the Stone Giant scene, Shorten Goblin king chase...Have the Lord of the Eagles after dropping off the 15 land next to Gandalf, screech and have Gandalf touch his chest and say "How is the old Arrow wound?" and have him screech and nod and have Gandalf say "Good and Thank you my old friend" and have him fly off screeching...I would have had Azog killed in this picture and at the very end reveal Bolg wanting revenge....I would have at least mentioned Durin's Bane...I would have had a Thrain trying to be recued by Gandalf scene showing how Gandalf got the Map and Key plus finding out that Thrain lost the Dwarven Ring of Power

 

[The Josh]

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This personally is my favorite film of the year...being a Tolkien fans helps too...the changes from the book that would any me were done so well that it didnt bother me as much...The LOTR changes from the book and some of the cheesy scenes bothered me more ...

Yeah, my favorite by far. I've seen it twice already and I am planning twice next weekend. Then I'll figure a way to get another 1-2 in before break is over. I didn't have a problem with tweaks in this one, but there are a couple with lotr that I could do with out.

As far as some of the issues with talking trolls and goofiness it's that way in the book. I know I'm beatingnandead horse but this isn't the same dark, serious, more mature world as LOTR. Now, starting with film 2 it heads that way in a hurry.

 

[jye4ever]

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I wish we had a shortened SW PT.

You know, like never made.

 

[DiFabio]

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Liked Fellowship, thought it should have won best picture that year.
Loved Two Towers, my favorite of the LOTR flicks.
Thought King was a bloated never ending mess, but was still good.

Didn't like The Hobbit at all.
- The HFR made the movie look like a video game. The CGI and makeup for everyone looked awful.
- The tone was childish. I understand the book was written for kiddies, but the movie version is rewritten, expanded and given a PG13 rating so the tone should have been brought up.
- Talking trolls? In LOTR they were feared beasts. In this they are talking morons. My eyes were rolling out of my head during the Three Cooking Troll Stooges scene.
- The Brown Wizard. It was nice seeing one of the Doctors again, but was that bird **** running down his face?
- Bilbo Baggins. Whoever played them was trying their best to imitate Jason Bateman.
- The video game ending. Srsly, everyone running past and slaughtering wave after wave of Orcs with no loss on their end, was silly.

I did love:
- Bilbo vs Smeagol. That was well done.
- Once the big birds showed at the end. Tossing the Orcs off into the ravine and the shots of them flying afterwards was nice.
- It ended.

Not sure if I will bother with the rest of the movies.

Yeah, I can understand all these criticisms even though I really liked the film.

I know what you mean about the trolls, but yeah, that's exactly how it is in the books, William, Bert and Tom so I can't really argue against it. I do prefer the beasts like the baby Moria Troll and the armored Mordor suckers in the LOTR films. Also, none of the action scenes really impressed me, like you said, "video gamish".

But the good out weighs the bad in my opinion. Loved the Riddles in the dark with Gollum. Love Thorin. Love Bofur and Balin. Bilbo and Gandalf were great and I really enjoyed the theme and motivation of "home".


I'm really looking forward to the next two. I just hope the enemies and threats are better, especially Smaug.

 

[Adolfo]

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Yeah, I can understand all these criticisms even though I really liked the film.

I know what you mean about the trolls, but yeah, that's exactly how it is in the books, William, Bert and Tom so I can't really argue against it. I do prefer the beasts like the baby Moria Troll and the armored Mordor suckers in the LOTR films. Also, none of the action scenes really impressed me, like you said, "video gamish".

But the good out weighs the bad in my opinion. Loved the Riddles in the dark with Gollum. Love Thorin. Love Bofur and Balin. Bilbo and Gandalf were great and I really enjoyed the theme and motivation of "home".


I'm really looking forward to the next two. I just hope the enemies and threats are better, especially Smaug.

For this beautiful film the good 100% outweighs the negative aspects

 

[jye4ever]

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I'm really looking forward to the next two. I just hope the enemies and threats are better, especially Smaug the masked dragon.

 

[DiFabio]

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Still going to see it in 48 fps too. I expect to be sick to my stomach and horrified.


So when they're walking or moving, you know, Bilbo and the Dwarves, it looks like they're in fast forward motion?

 

[Adolfo]

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I hope we see more Bats, man...LOL...and Spiders!..Battle of Dol Guldur!...with Five Wizards!

 

[Gates70]

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Liked Fellowship, thought it should have won best picture that year.
Loved Two Towers, my favorite of the LOTR flicks.
Thought King was a bloated never ending mess, but was still good.

Didn't like The Hobbit at all.
- The HFR made the movie look like a video game. The CGI and makeup for everyone looked awful.
- The tone was childish. I understand the book was written for kiddies, but the movie version is rewritten, expanded and given a PG13 rating so the tone should have been brought up.
- Talking trolls? In LOTR they were feared beasts. In this they are talking morons. My eyes were rolling out of my head during the Three Cooking Troll Stooges scene.
- The Brown Wizard. It was nice seeing one of the Doctors again, but was that bird **** running down his face?
- Bilbo Baggins. Whoever played them was trying their best to imitate Jason Bateman.
- The video game ending. Srsly, everyone running past and slaughtering wave after wave of Orcs with no loss on their end, was silly.

I did love:
- Bilbo vs Smeagol. That was well done.
- Once the big birds showed at the end. Tossing the Orcs off into the ravine and the shots of them flying afterwards was nice.
- It ended.

Not sure if I will bother with the rest of the movies.

Agree with all of this. I think for me another reason I couldn't get into it much, was that I had no attachments to any of the characters. In LOTR you have different personalities and skillsets (races or whatever you want to call it) and in this one it's a bunch of Dwarves from whom I couldn't tell the difference and didn't care for. The only one that stood out for me was Thorin. The rest are interchangeable for me and could care less if one fell off a cliff at some point...actually some did and just got back up without a scratch

 

[Rzeznikk]

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I really liked Balin and Dwalin. Those are my favorite Tolkien Dwarves (outside of Thorin and Gimli)

And I really thought King Thranduil was absoulutely beautiful on the Elk. Probably the coolest looking Elf Ive ever seen.

 

[jye4ever]

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Still going to see it in 48 fps too. I expect to be sick to my stomach and horrified.


So when they're walking or moving, you know, Bilbo and the Dwarves, it looks like they're in fast forward motion?

Yup, you get the slight increase in Dwarf/Hobbit speed.

 

[intothevoid]

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Still going to see it in 48 fps too. I expect to be sick to my stomach and horrified.


So when they're walking or moving, you know, Bilbo and the Dwarves, it looks like they're in fast forward motion?

It looks like everyone's on shrooms in the Shire

And the aerial camera panning looks like it was filmed on an attack helicopter heading for its target

 

[jye4ever]

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Attack helicopters.

I can't stop laughing.