The RIC FLAIR thread!

[karamazov80]

Says the hockey fan

 

[Voorhees27]

Says the hockey fan

Yeah a hockey fan that witnessed no good hockey last year.

 

[Rock83]

Pfffttttt..i always hated his intro, douche bag.



Not a douche.

 

[Valfar]

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Rock83, you just wish he was polishing you off like that.

 

[Maglor]

I understand that some don't like or get wrestling, but if you can appreciate it for what it is, there is some really good stuff out there. It is a form of performance art. It isn't just the stereotype that some imagine it to be (though some wrestlers do embody that stereotype).

I suppose I can get the performance art angle. I guess I just don't have enough "testosterone" to appreciate that kind of art.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the blading, though, except in a few rare instances where it really helps to make a match really great (like Austin/Bret Hart at WM 13). Guys start to over-use it as a cheap means of getting "heat" when they can't do it on ability alone anymore. Flair is an example in his last few years. I think Dusty Rhodes gets a bit more credit than he deserves as an in-ring performer because he bled so damn much. The better wrestlers would use it in extreme moderation, IMO. If they bled, those guys would typically be bleeding for real.

And to Mask's earlier post, I agree that the Misawa/Kobashi matches are excellent. Since Vince isn't concerned with the smaller, technical-type wrestlers, I have often wished that WWE would focus more on the stiff, All Japan style. But I can't imagine what that does to a guy's body.

So, just to be clear: the blood is always real blood, just not inflicted they way the audience is meant to believe?

They never use a fake blood pack or anything?

If that's the case, and they really are "blading" that actually lowers my respect for the sport/art/entertainment.

 

[Valfar]

I am pretty sure in some of Terry Funk's barbwire matches he actually got cut up on the barbs, no fake blood.

But, who cares..it is Entertainment, actors doing their own stunts pretty much...just like a movie, and we all love movies.


I am not trying to stick up for the new age fans though, many of them are retarded.

 

[Maglor]

Okay, but I'm asking if they use a corn syrup blood pack like they do in movies.


Sure looks fake here:

Fake blood

More Fake blood

 

[karamazov80]

They never use a fake blood pack or anything?

If that's the case, and they really are "blading" that actually lowers my respect for the sport/art/entertainment.

The blood is usually real. Wouldn't be as "realistic" if they tried to use blood packets somehow.

That stuff on Flair is 100% real. Pumps out the head and gets worse as the match goes on--can't fake that.

 

[DinoLast]

I used to enjoy wrestling, but it's been unwatchable the last 6 years or so.

 

[Maglor]

The blood is usually real. Wouldn't be as "realistic" if they tried to use blood packets somehow.

That stuff on Flair is 100% real. Pumps out the head and gets worse as the match goes on--can't fake that.

Wow, then those pics are pretty sick.

 

[eighthsamurai]

I used to enjoy wrestling, but it's been unwatchable the last 6 years or so.

i'd say ever since kurt angle left in 2006 it's been going downhill steadily. 2005-6 was a bad era i think with the guerrero and benoit tragedies. it's just mainly crap now.

is it just me or is matt striker just brain-gratingly annoying. he really pisses me off. No JR and PG rating means WWE is just stale.

 

[Voorhees27]

Its been a full 10 years since i've watched the WWE (then WWF) I stopped watching when The Rock took off to persue a movie career.

 

[eighthsamurai]

Its been a full 10 years since i've watched the WWE (then WWF) I stopped watching when The Rock took off to persue a movie career.

sorry, that word "career" made me laugh. a guy that could have been one of the greatest names in wrestling of all time went to hollywood (which is fair enough), made some pretty decent action movies and could have been a great action star, the chose some terrible movies, and finally sells his soul to disney. so now he's left in the middle of nowheresville. don't get me wrong, i absolutely loved the rock. but both as a wrestling fan and a movie fan, i lost quite a bit of respect for him because of his choices.

but you probably left around the right time voorhees. that was a great era. you missed the return of shawn michaels though.

btw, have you guys noticed how ultimate warrior is now in the entrance reel to all WWE events? it probably suggests he's hall of faming next year. like i said, not a flair fan, but compared to warrior, flair is a god. i'm supposed to be going to wm26 next year but if warrior has anything to do with it, i'll be gutted.

 

[DinoLast]

Well the WWE put Warrior down pretty bad in this video, but they wished they had someone with his personality now, what with the faceless wrestlers they have today.
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Oh Look it's Flair putting him down

 

[Voorhees27]

sorry, that word "career" made me laugh. a guy that could have been one of the greatest names in wrestling of all time went to hollywood (which is fair enough), made some pretty decent action movies and could have been a great action star, the chose some terrible movies, and finally sells his soul to disney. so now he's left in the middle of nowheresville. don't get me wrong, i absolutely loved the rock. but both as a wrestling fan and a movie fan, i lost quite a bit of respect for him because of his choices.

but you probably left around the right time voorhees. that was a great era. you missed the return of shawn michaels though.

Hehe yeah he's had a pretty weak career thus far, thats for sure. And like you said it started off pretty strong too. I guess you could say the same about Vin Diesel ............ well except he wasn't a wrestler.

I did enjoy wrestling for some years but nothing will ever touch the WWF of the 80's. THAT was fun ............. me and my pops use to also watch Stampede Wrestling on Saturdays too.

 

[eighthsamurai]

that whole video was hilarious. i don't like hellwig (i refuse to call him by his legal name of "warrior" ) because he's basically a nazi and he never paid his dues to be where he was. and he's the worst "wrestler" i've probably ever seen. but i agree, he had personality and showmanship and completely agree there's a lot of faceless wrestlers in the wwe now. especially all the new heels. they all seem to be the "arrogant cocky young upstart" gimmick. pretty dull. i think that's why i like cm punk and jericho so much. they're different at least. but jericho's act is getting old now too. wish they'd give him something new to do.

 

[DinoLast]

that whole video was hilarious. i don't like hellwig (i refuse to call him by his legal name of "warrior" ) because he's basically a nazi and he never paid his dues to be where he was. and he's the worst "wrestler" i've probably ever seen. but i agree, he had personality and showmanship and completely agree there's a lot of faceless wrestlers in the wwe now. especially all the new heels. they all seem to be the "arrogant cocky young upstart" gimmick. pretty dull. i think that's why i like cm punk and jericho so much. they're different at least. but jericho's act is getting old now too. wish they'd give him something new to do.

Well I guess it's because I was already 19 when Hulk and Warrior met at Wrestle mania, I remember what a big deal it was back then.


Shocking confession, maybe this is why he left
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[eighthsamurai]

i've seen that youtube vid before it's pure class.

oh man, hulk vs. warrior at wrestlemania. i was still a kid back then, and it's when i still thought it was real. warrior, british bulldog and hulk hogan were my faves and that match was like watching a world cup final game to me my opinion of my faves has certainly changed.

 

[karamazov80]

I was the biggest Warrior fan around as a kid. Of course I didn't know what the ____ he was talking about, but I would jump up and down on my bed when he would run out to the ring.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

i'd say ever since kurt angle left in 2006 it's been going downhill steadily. 2005-6 was a bad era i think with the guerrero and benoit tragedies. it's just mainly crap now.

is it just me or is matt striker just brain-gratingly annoying. he really pisses me off. No JR and PG rating means WWE is just stale.

haven't watched WWE in years...all the big names are gone, and these new guys suck