The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[edonian]

Well for anyone interested.... Here's an article on whether or not Negan and Carl's relationship will be explored in season 7

 

[devilof76]

That was interesting-ish. Carl is definitely going to have some kind of relationship to Negan, but possibly definitely not because he might not have made it. I do wonder if they even think about the peripheral consequences of these things before they do them.

 

[crows]

Come to think of it, if I were Negan I wouldn't be keeping any of these guys alive. They're probably the first group the Saviours encountered that not only put up a worthy fight but actually initiated the fight with a major offensive. I'd have to wonder are they really worth the risk and I'd be thinking if anyone will rebel it's this group.

yeah, why stop at the one person, kind of doesn't make sense but cant kill everyone ( but yeah he would probably taken them all out)

 

[EVILFACE]

Doesn't matter to me who got bashed.

I wanna know why Trevor didn't appear in just his underwear.

 

[DiFabio]

Doesn't matter to me who got bashed.

I wanna know why Trevor didn't appear in just his underwear.

And with his completely bald head, beard and tattoos I gave him.

 

[Mr. Green]

Come to think of it, if I were Negan I wouldn't be keeping any of these guys alive. They're probably the first group the Saviours encountered that not only put up a worthy fight but actually initiated the fight with a major offensive. I'd have to wonder are they really worth the risk and I'd be thinking if anyone will rebel it's this group.

This is Negan's flaw. His methods only work on the timid. He should've killed them all. Alexandria would be too weak to resist him.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

It's fine if some people here liked the finale, that doesn't take away from the fact that the great majority is really angry about how AMC handled this. Reddit is exploding over it, Gimple and Kirkman are getting an absurd amount of bad feedback on twitter and on news site. I mean this is now the LOWEST rated TWD episode, on IMDB, of all time. That's got mean something.

It's clear that a lot of people didn't like the cliffhanger. Which is fine. Cliffhangers are meant to frustrate ... and some people apparently can't handle it. But, that's the idea. To leave you wanting more. It's why serials have ended that way since the 1940s. To me, it's a perfectly viable storytelling device. And, once it pays off ... it's not as if the frustration continues. Once the next one airs, these two episodes will be thought of as one continuing storyline ... just like the 'disappointing' cliffhanger midseason finale, and the badass continuation that aired a couple of months later.

"Ratings" are a strange thing these days, though. Whatever you think of the ending ... there's just no way that's close to the worst TWD episode. That's absurd enough that it makes the 'rating' look more like a temper tantrum than a genuine measurement of the quality of the episode. The Negan introduction and monologue alone puts it well past quite a few. Hell, at least this finale was a cliffhanger that will deliver when the story continues ... the original Governor ambush on the prison actually fizzled, and didn't deliver for a solid half-season thereafter. And, there were an awful lot of 'not-much-happening' episodes in there that are clearly far worse than this one.

Not to start another conversation entirely, but BvS is having a similar problem. Again, whether you liked it or not ... there's no way BvS (28%) is worse than Affleck's Daredevil (44%), Batman Forever (41%), Eric Bana's Hulk (61%), or Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (37%), for instance.

There's an interesting conversation to be had about 'ratings', nerd-tantrums, and general entitlement. People seem to be getting far more difficult to please.

SnakeDoc

 

[pixletwin]

Well said and bang on accurate.

 

[greygoose]

When the first group of Saviors drag that guy onto the road to set an example how did they know Rick's group would be on that road at that time?

 

[devilof76]

I don't think it was made clear. How did they know a lot of things? Kinda what made it all so spooky.

People seem to be getting far more difficult to please.

SnakeDoc

It's not that they're harder to please, it's that they've discovered the power of being *******s. The happy guests don't get a free night at a hotel. It's the miserable ****s who do nothing but hate everything and everyone from the moment they walk through the front door. Personally, they should be shown the door before they get in. No one makes money appeasing these creatures, but that's not the mentality of those who fear them.

Still, your point is well taken.

 

[Mr. Green]

When the first group of Saviors drag that guy onto the road to set an example how did they know Rick's group would be on that road at that time?

They made a pack with the hilltop group who got better medical care. Negan's group just had to isolate his investment. Rick's group and the Alexandrian will eventually need supplies, especially Maggie.

 

[EVILFACE]

nerd-tantrums

That pretty much sums up everything.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

It's not that they're harder to please, it's that they've discovered the power of being *******s. The happy guests don't get a free night at a hotel. It's the miserable ****s who do nothing but hate everything and everyone from the moment they walk through the front door. Personally, they should be shown the door before they get in. No one makes money appeasing these creatures, but that's not the mentality of those who fear them.

Still, your point is well taken.

Parenting 101 ... an ignored tantrum will burn out pretty quick; attention adds fuel to the fire. There are more and more applications for that principle lately.

SnakeDoc

 

[greygoose]

In regards to the ending scene is that all that will have been filmed? Up until Negan's bat kill or will they have filmed the start of season 7 too whilst everyone was there and in make-up etc? That's if they even return to that scene.

 

[devilof76]

If I got it right, the kill was shot with no one else on set; just Negan. They'll have to go back to film the scene again for the full perspective and the aftermath.

 

[ali032373]

In the comic what that scene so memorable was the graphic depection of that character being bludgeoned to death- brain matter oozing, eyeball hanging out kind of stuff.

Here, it's been sanitized for tv. We basically saw nothing. So unless the show the horror next season when we find out who got it, it wont carry the same effect or weight for me.

 

[devilof76]

The ****'s wrong with you that you needed to see that for it to affect you?

 

[greygoose]

If I got it right, the kill was shot with no one else on set; just Negan. They'll have to go back to film the scene again for the full perspective and the aftermath.

I hope we get to see it. I'm not wanting to see it for the gore but I think it will have more of an impact if we get to see the characters reacting to the death and initial aftermath.

 

[hoodonit00]

Well said and bang on accurate.

Totally agree. It's what I was trying to say but he said it so much better.

 

[Solidus]

Doesn't matter to me who got bashed.

I wanna know why Trevor didn't appear in just his underwear.