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I love that song and I agree with you about the lone walker in the field.
I wonder if they'll put out a season 2 soundtrack with all the songs?
I love that song and I agree with you about the lone walker in the field.
I wonder if they'll put out a season 2 soundtrack with all the songs?
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Oxymoronic. First off, though it uses a magnum round, it's a Colt Python, not a Smith & Wesson Magnum. Secondly, why the hell would someone limit themselves to a 6-shooter that utilizes uncommon ammo? Hell, Rick doesn't even have a speed loader for it (and as we've seen, he needs one). Doesn't sound very smart to me. Especially when the one you're inferring is not, carries a Glock 17 which allows him considerably more ammo, but also being magazine-fed, doesn't leave him holding his ____ when it's time to reload.
Oxymoronic. First off, though it uses a magnum round, it's a Colt Python, not a Smith & Wesson Magnum. Secondly, why the hell would someone limit themselves to a 6-shooter that utilizes uncommon ammo? Hell, Rick doesn't even have a speed loader for it (and as we've seen, he needs one). Doesn't sound very smart to me. Especially when the one you're inferring is not, carries a Glock 17 which allows him considerably more ammo, but also being magazine-fed, doesn't leave him holding his ____ when it's time to reload.
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In your zeal to correct me on weapon identification the real and main point seems to do a low and slow pass over your head.
But run to the cookie jar for your weapon expertise reward.
Oxymoronic. First off, though it uses a magnum round, it's a Colt Python, not a Smith & Wesson Magnum. Secondly, why the hell would someone limit themselves to a 6-shooter that utilizes uncommon ammo? Hell, Rick doesn't even have a speed loader for it (and as we've seen, he needs one). Doesn't sound very smart to me. Especially when the one you're inferring is not, carries a Glock 17 which allows him considerably more ammo, but doesn't leave him holding his ____ when it's time to reload.
In your zeal to correct me on weapon identification the real and main point seems to do a low and slow pass over your head.
But run to the cookie jar for your weapon expertise reward.
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Just caught the latest episode. As much as some of you want Shane to bite the bullet I think having his character on the show is needed.
Just caught the latest episode. As much as some of you want Shane to bite the bullet I think having his character on the show is needed.
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You were using the weapon to signify a sign of intelligence. It is not. Someone preferring a weapon such as Ricks in a zombie apocalypse isn't a very smart man. You failed. Thank you, come again.
You were using the weapon to signify a sign of intelligence. It is not. Someone preferring a weapon such as Ricks in a zombie apocalypse isn't a very smart man. You failed. Thank you, come again.
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Agreed. if they're gonna bump off Shane, they better have an equally dynamic character ready to fill his shoes. His angst with Rick is the driving force of the show at this point.
Agreed. if they're gonna bump off Shane, they better have an equally dynamic character ready to fill his shoes. His angst with Rick is the driving force of the show at this point.
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Here's my take on the wandering zombie: It's a symbol for the hopelessness that Shane feels. In the beginning of the episode Shane sees the zombie just wandering in the field. Then, after everything that goes down throughout the entire episode (and all the craziness they go through) in the end, that same zombie is still there just wandering around i.e. nothing changes. Doesn't matter what they do or how long they survive NONE of their actions will ever matter or change the world and the way it is for them now.
Here's my take on the wandering zombie: It's a symbol for the hopelessness that Shane feels. In the beginning of the episode Shane sees the zombie just wandering in the field. Then, after everything that goes down throughout the entire episode (and all the craziness they go through) in the end, that same zombie is still there just wandering around i.e. nothing changes. Doesn't matter what they do or how long they survive NONE of their actions will ever matter or change the world and the way it is for them now.
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Wholeheartedly agree, but they can only keep this powder keg under pressure for so long until it starts feeling odd that it hasn't blown up yet.
Daryl has been fairly interesting this season, let's not forget that. And if we've learned anything from watching the show, it's that the characters constantly cycle through, leaving only Rick and his clan to keep the overarching plot together. Some interesting new ones are bound to pop up.
Hence, why the preview for the next episode shows Shane plotting against Rick yet again. Sooner or later, something permanent will have to happen. What better time than the season finale?
Wholeheartedly agree, but they can only keep this powder keg under pressure for so long until it starts feeling odd that it hasn't blown up yet.
Daryl has been fairly interesting this season, let's not forget that. And if we've learned anything from watching the show, it's that the characters constantly cycle through, leaving only Rick and his clan to keep the overarching plot together. Some interesting new ones are bound to pop up.
Hence, why the preview for the next episode shows Shane plotting against Rick yet again. Sooner or later, something permanent will have to happen. What better time than the season finale?
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Wow, I guess I have to spell it out.
The original point of contention was about Shanes smarts not Ricks.
The point wasn't in the weapon choice per se of Rick but rather that Shane persists in his delusions that show in fact he is not a "smart" man and is in reality a danger to himself and the group.
Rick and Laurie have out the "No soliciting" sign and Shanes still knockin'.
Aren't you over due to be banned again?
You were using the weapon to signify a sign of intelligence. It is not. Someone preferring a weapon such as Ricks in a zombie apocalypse isn't a very smart man. You failed. Thank you, come again.
Wow, I guess I have to spell it out.
The original point of contention was about Shanes smarts not Ricks.
The point wasn't in the weapon choice per se of Rick but rather that Shane persists in his delusions that show in fact he is not a "smart" man and is in reality a danger to himself and the group.
Rick and Laurie have out the "No soliciting" sign and Shanes still knockin'.
Aren't you over due to be banned again?
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I thought it was funny when Rick kept squeezing the trigger when his gun was in the zombies mouth yet the chamber wasn't moving because the gun was rubber.
I thought it was funny when Rick kept squeezing the trigger when his gun was in the zombies mouth yet the chamber wasn't moving because the gun was rubber.
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tyrese came in as they left the original camp in the comics
tyrese came in as they left the original camp in the comics
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I'm wondering that because....
Which just happened to be out Shane's window both times? He wasn't driving at any point and for it tou be out his window both times he would have to have been.
That part has me a bit stumped. Error in editing?
I'm wondering that because....
Shane wasn't all bloody and beat up in the last shot of him looking out the window at the zombie. It looked like the same shot from the beginning of the show
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Walking Dead Creator: "Shane's Not Over It"
IGN talked to Robert Kirkman about last night's Rick vs. Shane throwdown, zombies craving blood and more.
February 27, 2012
by Matt Fowler
So how about that for a slobberknocker? Rick vs. Shane! Zompocalypse throwdown! Last night's episode of The Walking Dead, "18 Miles Out," definitely had some intense, nail-biting action. I talked to Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman about the big confrontation, zombies craving blood and whether or not the s*** between Rick and Shane was settled once and for all.
Warning: This Q&A contains spoilers about the episode "18 Miles Out," as well as some minor spoilers from the Kirkman comic book series.
IGN's Eric and Matt Chat About "18 Miles Out"
IGN: So after all that happened to them with the zombie attack, is the situation between Rick and Shane settled? Has it been put to bed?
Robert Kirkman: Well, I think that Rick definitely thinks that the situation has been put to rest and that everything is behind them. I mean, he's probably not thinking "Oh, I've got my best friend back. This is awesome," but he does think that they've aired everything that they need to air and now they're going to be repairing that relationship. He feels that they are on the road to being okay. Shane, on the other hand, that look on his face in the car when he's going home tells you that he might be seething a little bit. Shane's not over it. He's continually being shown that Rick is not as weak as he once thought and he just got his ass kicked by the guy and he's still harboring some resentment. Now whether that makes him continue to question Rick's judgment and be a thorn in his side, or whether he's able to bottle that up for the sake of the group, we'll have to wait and see.
IGN: It must have been humiliating for Shane to be rescued by Rick, during a moment that he himself would have considered to be "weak." Will Shane always see Rick as being weak?
Kirkman: I don't know. This is a show that's all about people growing and changing over time. And I think if Shane is smart he will eventually change his mind about Rick and come to see that Rick is a good ally and that he is keeping him alive. But yes, Rick's great weakness, in Shane's opinion, did just save his life so I think Shane is an intelligent guy and maybe he'll come around.
IGN: Fans of your comic series will no doubt recognize the "stabbing the zombie through the fence" tactic. Was there a reason this was brought out earlier on the show than the way it happened in the comics?
Kirkman: It was just something that worked at the time. Scott Gimple, who wrote those scenes in this episode, is hugely familiar with the comic and sometimes remembers things in the writers room that I've forgotten, which is always a lot of fun. [laughs] And I always get poked fun at for that. But that's really the beauty of this series is that we can reach into the future in the comic book series timeline and pull things back and give them maybe give them a little bit more attention and definitely do more things with some throw-away gags that I did from time to time.
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IGN: I feel as though this was the first time on the show that the zombies were directly drawn to blood, and not just a body. Were you trying to tell us that they are specifically drawn to blood over everything else?
Kirkman: I don't necessarily think that they're after blood, but I just think that any kind of sign of organic human matter calls their attention. Blood means there's flesh so they're probably just after whatever it is that's wrapped around a human skeleton. So blood is a part of that, but I don't think that they're vampiric in and kind of sense. I mean, they definitely don't mind blood. They keep chomping away at people and it gushes all up in their mouths, but it's all one thing. I think if there was a big ear hanging off of that fence they would have had the same reaction.
IGN: This episode left out a bunch of the regular characters, like Glenn, Dale, Hershel and Daryl. Can we expect more episodes like this one, which focused on a select few, going forward?
Kirkman: I think in order to give every character their moment to shine and do justice to their character we are going to have to hop around to a certain extent. I think we'll pull back on some characters sometimes but then spend more time on them in the next episode. I think that breaking down the math and giving everyone a solid three minutes per episode is not going to be fulfilling. So there are going to be episodes where certain characters recede into the background. Or don't even appear all together. It just means that they'll be getting more attention in future episodes. So all you fans out there of, say, Daryl Dixon, don't fret. He'll be getting a lot more screen time coming up.
IGN: The events that brought the survivors to the farm mirrored the way that they arrived there in the comics. But the way that they come to leave the farm will have to be different now. Is it fun to find new ways to move the characters around from place to place than how you did it in the comics?
Kirkman: Oh yeah. It's all about striking a balance. I want to adapt the story from the comic book series and I want to tell a lot of those events, but we need to arrive at them in different ways to keep things differently. Here, I'll spoil something for you right now. They don't stay on the farm forever [laughs]. But the way they are driven off the farm in the comic book and the way they are driven off the farm on the show are going to be vastly different. But that's kind of the cool thing about it. People who know why and how they left the farm in the comic book series will still be surprised and engaged with what's going on in the show. They won't feel like they can second guess the show and they won't know what's going to happen. And that's really important to me.
IGN: It was interesting to see Lori and Andrea get into it a little bit. It was almost as if Lori was dealing we the female Shane, what with the argument of optimism vs. pessimism. Was that the intent?
Kirkman: Well there was definitely a little bit of mirroring going on with the two different storylines in this episode. But it was really just a matter of having two women who co-exist not having the same priorities or like-mindedness. They don't have a lot in common. I think that Andrea is kind of condescending in the way that she thinks that Lori does around the camp, in order to maintain some sense of a normal life, are silly. And I think that Lori thinks that it's a little goofy that Andrea is running around trying to be "one of the boys" as she puts it.
Walking Dead Creator: "Shane's Not Over It"
IGN talked to Robert Kirkman about last night's Rick vs. Shane throwdown, zombies craving blood and more.
February 27, 2012
by Matt Fowler
So how about that for a slobberknocker? Rick vs. Shane! Zompocalypse throwdown! Last night's episode of The Walking Dead, "18 Miles Out," definitely had some intense, nail-biting action. I talked to Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman about the big confrontation, zombies craving blood and whether or not the s*** between Rick and Shane was settled once and for all.
Warning: This Q&A contains spoilers about the episode "18 Miles Out," as well as some minor spoilers from the Kirkman comic book series.
IGN's Eric and Matt Chat About "18 Miles Out"
IGN: So after all that happened to them with the zombie attack, is the situation between Rick and Shane settled? Has it been put to bed?
Robert Kirkman: Well, I think that Rick definitely thinks that the situation has been put to rest and that everything is behind them. I mean, he's probably not thinking "Oh, I've got my best friend back. This is awesome," but he does think that they've aired everything that they need to air and now they're going to be repairing that relationship. He feels that they are on the road to being okay. Shane, on the other hand, that look on his face in the car when he's going home tells you that he might be seething a little bit. Shane's not over it. He's continually being shown that Rick is not as weak as he once thought and he just got his ass kicked by the guy and he's still harboring some resentment. Now whether that makes him continue to question Rick's judgment and be a thorn in his side, or whether he's able to bottle that up for the sake of the group, we'll have to wait and see.
IGN: It must have been humiliating for Shane to be rescued by Rick, during a moment that he himself would have considered to be "weak." Will Shane always see Rick as being weak?
Kirkman: I don't know. This is a show that's all about people growing and changing over time. And I think if Shane is smart he will eventually change his mind about Rick and come to see that Rick is a good ally and that he is keeping him alive. But yes, Rick's great weakness, in Shane's opinion, did just save his life so I think Shane is an intelligent guy and maybe he'll come around.
IGN: Fans of your comic series will no doubt recognize the "stabbing the zombie through the fence" tactic. Was there a reason this was brought out earlier on the show than the way it happened in the comics?
Kirkman: It was just something that worked at the time. Scott Gimple, who wrote those scenes in this episode, is hugely familiar with the comic and sometimes remembers things in the writers room that I've forgotten, which is always a lot of fun. [laughs] And I always get poked fun at for that. But that's really the beauty of this series is that we can reach into the future in the comic book series timeline and pull things back and give them maybe give them a little bit more attention and definitely do more things with some throw-away gags that I did from time to time.
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IGN: I feel as though this was the first time on the show that the zombies were directly drawn to blood, and not just a body. Were you trying to tell us that they are specifically drawn to blood over everything else?
Kirkman: I don't necessarily think that they're after blood, but I just think that any kind of sign of organic human matter calls their attention. Blood means there's flesh so they're probably just after whatever it is that's wrapped around a human skeleton. So blood is a part of that, but I don't think that they're vampiric in and kind of sense. I mean, they definitely don't mind blood. They keep chomping away at people and it gushes all up in their mouths, but it's all one thing. I think if there was a big ear hanging off of that fence they would have had the same reaction.
IGN: This episode left out a bunch of the regular characters, like Glenn, Dale, Hershel and Daryl. Can we expect more episodes like this one, which focused on a select few, going forward?
Kirkman: I think in order to give every character their moment to shine and do justice to their character we are going to have to hop around to a certain extent. I think we'll pull back on some characters sometimes but then spend more time on them in the next episode. I think that breaking down the math and giving everyone a solid three minutes per episode is not going to be fulfilling. So there are going to be episodes where certain characters recede into the background. Or don't even appear all together. It just means that they'll be getting more attention in future episodes. So all you fans out there of, say, Daryl Dixon, don't fret. He'll be getting a lot more screen time coming up.
IGN: The events that brought the survivors to the farm mirrored the way that they arrived there in the comics. But the way that they come to leave the farm will have to be different now. Is it fun to find new ways to move the characters around from place to place than how you did it in the comics?
Kirkman: Oh yeah. It's all about striking a balance. I want to adapt the story from the comic book series and I want to tell a lot of those events, but we need to arrive at them in different ways to keep things differently. Here, I'll spoil something for you right now. They don't stay on the farm forever [laughs]. But the way they are driven off the farm in the comic book and the way they are driven off the farm on the show are going to be vastly different. But that's kind of the cool thing about it. People who know why and how they left the farm in the comic book series will still be surprised and engaged with what's going on in the show. They won't feel like they can second guess the show and they won't know what's going to happen. And that's really important to me.
IGN: It was interesting to see Lori and Andrea get into it a little bit. It was almost as if Lori was dealing we the female Shane, what with the argument of optimism vs. pessimism. Was that the intent?
Kirkman: Well there was definitely a little bit of mirroring going on with the two different storylines in this episode. But it was really just a matter of having two women who co-exist not having the same priorities or like-mindedness. They don't have a lot in common. I think that Andrea is kind of condescending in the way that she thinks that Lori does around the camp, in order to maintain some sense of a normal life, are silly. And I think that Lori thinks that it's a little goofy that Andrea is running around trying to be "one of the boys" as she puts it.
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After you mentioned thinking it was a daydream, I rewatched the ending to see if Shane still had the blood from the fight on the side of his head as he stared out the window, and he did.
After you mentioned thinking it was a daydream, I rewatched the ending to see if Shane still had the blood from the fight on the side of his head as he stared out the window, and he did.
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Some of the stuff she told Lori in the kitchen was true though. I like that someone finally told her what I've been thinking for awhile now.
Some of the stuff she told Lori in the kitchen was true though. I like that someone finally told her what I've been thinking for awhile now.
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Someone needed to call that selfish ______ out. I'm liking Andrea more and more.
Someone needed to call that selfish ______ out. I'm liking Andrea more and more.Similar threads
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