devilof76
Super Freak
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Spoilers!!)
I think someone would have to put a lot of effort into being offended by your posts.
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Carl didn't murder Shane, and neither did Rick. Murder is not the taking of a life. That's what killing is. Murder is the killing of another human being without the justification of protecting the one's own life from the threat of death by that same human being. Killing in self-defense, or in self-defense of another is not murder.
What Shane did to Otis and Randall was murder. What Rick did to the guys in the bar, and their friends, and to Shane was not murder. But if he had killed Randall, he would be guilty of the same crimes as Shane.
These characters are living in a state of nature. There is no legal authority for dealing with crime. That is what has changed in the world. They did not lose moral law. Moral law exists in a state of nature; it is natural law, applied to the lives of rational animals (animals which must choose their actions, hence need a standard by which to choose them). Law protects them from predation by those who achieve their goals by way of physical force, overriding the ability of others to choose. Physical force removes the efficacy of thought and volitional action. The forced and the chosen are opposites; the latter makes the former impossible.
Human beings cannot survive long range without morality. There is no situation, real or imagined in which they can survive by opposing the demands of their nature. A dog cannot live as a fish. A cat cannot live as a bird. A fly cannot live as an elephant. An organism can only survive if it acts according to it's identity. Nothing in human nature requires that they murder to survive.
Shane did not adapt to the 'new world'. He failed miserably. He saw the legal structures collapse and used it as an excuse to act inhuman. I think it's pretty obvious how that worked out for his survival.
I try my best not to be condescending or belligerent.
I think someone would have to put a lot of effort into being offended by your posts.
Murdered by Carl in issue #6.
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Carl didn't murder Shane, and neither did Rick. Murder is not the taking of a life. That's what killing is. Murder is the killing of another human being without the justification of protecting the one's own life from the threat of death by that same human being. Killing in self-defense, or in self-defense of another is not murder.
What Shane did to Otis and Randall was murder. What Rick did to the guys in the bar, and their friends, and to Shane was not murder. But if he had killed Randall, he would be guilty of the same crimes as Shane.
These characters are living in a state of nature. There is no legal authority for dealing with crime. That is what has changed in the world. They did not lose moral law. Moral law exists in a state of nature; it is natural law, applied to the lives of rational animals (animals which must choose their actions, hence need a standard by which to choose them). Law protects them from predation by those who achieve their goals by way of physical force, overriding the ability of others to choose. Physical force removes the efficacy of thought and volitional action. The forced and the chosen are opposites; the latter makes the former impossible.
Human beings cannot survive long range without morality. There is no situation, real or imagined in which they can survive by opposing the demands of their nature. A dog cannot live as a fish. A cat cannot live as a bird. A fly cannot live as an elephant. An organism can only survive if it acts according to it's identity. Nothing in human nature requires that they murder to survive.
Shane did not adapt to the 'new world'. He failed miserably. He saw the legal structures collapse and used it as an excuse to act inhuman. I think it's pretty obvious how that worked out for his survival.