The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[316what]

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But anyways, there was some really crummy editing, one minute the black guy (with busted ribs) was down stairs watching the chopping, but when they run up stairs he's no where to be seen...for he's already on the roof top in the same sitting position post beat down...teleportation?

And the scenes where Morales is chopping up the dead zombie and the mask keeps falling off....only to be back on his face mid-swing, lol.

"Don't get blood on your skin"...:hands him a visor with blood on the inside: And how can he chop away like that and not get blood on everyone else?

The blood has already coagulated therefore there isn't any blood splatter....Dexter taught us that.

You think the first thing on people in Huricane Katrina's minds in the days after the disaster was let me get some trim?

Superdome...enough said.

 

[316what]

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It did seem that the ep.1 zombies seemed slower and dumber than those of ep. 2 but maybe that's just the difference between suburban and urban walking dead. The scene with them walking among them was great and so tense...loved it.

Glenn explains this when he tells Rick about the riled up "herds."

 

[Pennyworth]

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I knew I wasn't completely crazy.

Unless you're crazy too.

nah, not crazy.... Your perspective makes sense.

The blood has already coagulated therefore there isn't any blood splatter....Dexter taught us that.

good point - totally didn't think of that.

Glenn explains this when he tells Rick about the riled up "herds."

now that you mention it, I remember, thanks.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

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Watched the second episode last night. Great stuff!

About the Zombies' ability to smell: isn't that how it always was? Or was it supposed to be a sixth sense or something? I always figured the zombies smelled fresh flesh and blood and that's how they could distinguish between the living and the dead. The smell would drive them to a live body once it was in their proximity.

Or is it like Shaun of the Dead where it's just a live person's faster movement that distinguishes them, so all a live person would have to do is walk slow and stagger?

And yes, Lori was quick to forget her husband. But it IS the zombie apocalypse, so I can accept her acting irrational. The guy probably initiated the whole thing, and she went along with it to ensure her and her son's protection.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Here's some great news!! Interesting to note that while there was a slight drop in viewers from episode 1 to episode 2, it actually went up amongst male viewers 18-49.

AMC RESURRECTS “THE WALKING DEAD”

FOR A SECOND SEASON

Biggest Series in Cable History

Among Adults 18-49

Network Greenlights 13-Episode Season of Original Hit Series

Biggest Global Original Series Debut on Fox International Channels

( New York , NY – November 8, 2010) AMC announced today the renewal of “The Walking Dead” for a 13-episode second season. Since debuting Sunday, October 31, “The Walking Dead” has broken ratings records, with the series reaching more Adults 18-49 than any other show in the history of cable television.

Today’s announcement also includes Fox International Channels’ (FIC) global renewal for a second season, following record-breaking premiere ratings in 120 countries in Europe, Latin America, Asia and the Middle East . “The Walking Dead” was the highest-rated original series premiere ever to air on FIC simultaneously worldwide.

“The ‘Dead’ has spread!” said Charlie Collier, President, AMC. “No other cable series has ever attracted as many Adults 18-49 as ‘The Walking Dead.’ This reaffirms viewers’ hunger for premium television on basic cable. We are so proud to be bringing back ‘The Dead’ again, across the globe.”

Ratings Highlights for The Walking Dead - Episode 2, which premiered on AMC Sunday, 11/7:

10pm airing – 3.1 HH rating with over 4.7 million viewers;
Adults 18-49 – 3.3 million viewers;
Adults 25-54 – 2.8 million viewers;
Men 18-49 – 2.1 million viewers.

Ratings Highlights for the The Walking Dead - Episode 1, which premiered on AMC Sunday, 10/31:

10pm airing – 3.7 HH rating with over 5.3 million total viewers;
Adults 18-49 – 3.6 million viewers;
Adults 25-54 – 3.1 million viewers;
Men 18-49 – 2.0 million viewers;

“I wish all programming decisions were no brainers like this one,” said Sharon Tal Yguado, SVP Scripted Programming. “‘The Walking Dead’ is a TV masterpiece on so many levels. We want at least 10 seasons, if not more. Kudos to AMC!”

 

[KrisSolo]

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Great second episode!

I got the idea that maybe Lori was having an affair before the zombie outbreak - the scene with Rick and his partner in episode 1 certainly gave the impression his marriage was going through a rough spot. Guess we'll see...

Can't wait for No. 3!

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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Great second episode!

I got the idea that maybe Lori was having an affair before the zombie outbreak - the scene with Rick and his partner in episode 1 certainly gave the impression his marriage was going through a rough spot. Guess we'll see...

Can't wait for No. 3!

she wasn't

 

[Maglor]

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I don't think she was either. But they were clearly having problems. Makes her cheating more plausible.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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I don't think she was either. But they were clearly having problems. Makes her cheating more plausible.

in the book, they weren't sleeping together before

 

[Maglor]

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And I think that's true of the TV show as well.

I mean that the fact they were having problems makes her cheating now make more sense.

 

[Mister Ski]

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And I think that's true of the TV show as well.

I mean that the fact they were having problems makes her cheating now make more sense.

It does???

 

[devilof76]

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I still don't think what she's doing qualifies as cheating.

He has many reasons to believe she is still alive, despite the odds. She has no reason to believe he is alive, and plenty of reasons to believe he's dead.

 

[IrishJedi]

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I still don't think what she's doing qualifies as cheating.

He has many reasons to believe she is still alive, despite the odds. She has no reason to believe he is alive, and plenty of reasons to believe he's dead.

Some people (viewers) are simply prejudiced by the fact that they know Rick is alive and well and looking for her and their son... and they're overlooking the fact that she clearly believes he's dead. It's a known phenomenon in writing or movies... if you present something to the audience that is unknown to other characters and it's an emotional device (like a woman sleeping with her husband's best friend) they often times project that onto the character as guilty, even though he/she is ignorant to it. Knowing the talent behind this show, this was likely done on purpose.

It's still kinda icky, regardless. But as it develops more people will see that she's not really in love with Shane... these are just primal urges coming out in the face of the world collapsing around them. And since she believes Rick is dead I don't see it as cheating, either. Just... icky. Heh.

 

[The Mike]

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I don't believe in 'zombie rules', but a friend of mine was a bit miffed that apparently The Walking Dead (tv series) broke a bunch of them.

You should have told your friend to stop right there. There are no "Zombie Rules" just like there are no "Vampire Rules" or "Mummy Rules". Each writer to themselves has the ability to create a new reality involving an archetype. Now if this was a continuation of a previously established series and the writer went off and contradicted them that is one thing but since this is Kirkham's own creation as far as the series is concerned these are the Zombie rules. It's no different than any other horror character base, from property to property they are different.

Some people (viewers) are simply prejudiced by the fact that they know Rick is alive and well and looking for her and their son... and they're overlooking the fact that she clearly believes he's dead. It's a known phenomenon in writing or movies... if you present something to the audience that is unknown to other characters and it's an emotional device (like a woman sleeping with her husband's best friend) they often times project that onto the character as guilty, even though he/she is ignorant to it. Knowing the talent behind this show, this was likely done on purpose.

I guarantee you it was done on purpose because it allows viewers to get into the sidestory early when it isn't fully relevant. In reality without this angle you'd just have flashes to a bunch of people in the woods.

It's still kinda icky, regardless. But as it develops more people will see that she's not really in love with Shane... these are just primal urges coming out in the face of the world collapsing around them. And since she believes Rick is dead I don't see it as cheating, either. Just... icky. Heh.

I don't know that its icky. Icky would be openly banging the hell out of each other in their tent because everyone "knows" that Rick just died. Research has often proven that in times of grief, humans seek out that primal urge of looking for closeness and human emotional contact often focused through sex. She is just following that basic human nature (which you pointed out) but that doesn't make it icky to me, just more believable. She assumed he died long ago, especially considering the state that the hospital was left in and so the grieving in terms of crying and caterwailing has probably already passed and while she is still in grief, you can tell by the possession of the ring still, she is giving into that need for closeness and security found in a physical relationship.

 

[Staps1138]

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Some people (viewers) are simply prejudiced by the fact that they know Rick is alive and well and looking for her and their son... and they're overlooking the fact that she clearly believes he's dead. It's a known phenomenon in writing or movies... if you present something to the audience that is unknown to other characters and it's an emotional device (like a woman sleeping with her husband's best friend) they often times project that onto the character as guilty, even though he/she is ignorant to it. Knowing the talent behind this show, this was likely done on purpose.

It's still kinda icky, regardless. But as it develops more people will see that she's not really in love with Shane... these are just primal urges coming out in the face of the world collapsing around them. And since she believes Rick is dead I don't see it as cheating, either. Just... icky. Heh.

Good points! The moment when they reunite and how she responds/reacts to him returning in her life will show us her true self based on how the TV series has written her character. Those of you that have read the comics already know so will the TV series stay true or will this be a variance? I've not read the comics yet, I only know from what the other members who have read it have shared but I think its really cool that we don't know what they will stay true to or what they will vary from in the story. There's always the possibility of a twist or variance from what has already been established and that I think would be cool for those who already know what the books are about. I gotta get these and get in the know!

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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Good points! The moment when they reunite and how she responds/reacts to him returning in her life will show us her true self based on how the TV series has written her character. Those of you that have read the comics already know so will the TV series stay true or will this be a variance? I've not read the comics yet, I only know from what the other members who have read it have shared but I think its really cool that we don't know what they will stay true to or what they will vary from in the story. There's always the possibility of a twist or variance from what has already been established and that I think would be cool for those who already know what the books are about. I gotta get these and get in the know!

the show has already varied from the comic

 

[cerealkeller]

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It's not even that. And 'comfort' isn't an accurate description of what she'd need. What people would need is confirmation that there was still a chance to feel something other than horror for the rest of their (most likely) short lives. They'd be fiends for any kind of hard affirmation that life is still life, and not just food for death.

I don't know how else to express it. She's not just getting off as a distraction, or because she's a slut. That level of human contact would mean the world to these people. It's not like an earthquake or a hurricane---dead people want to eat them.

Im going to share something personal but it relates to this issue. My father died back in 98. My whole family was torn apart and numb. After the funeral, my fiance and I went back to our apartment. I didnt say a word but I immediately grabbed her and we ended up having sex. I didnt even think, just a reaction to hold onto something real. I felt weird about it afterwards (as Im sure Laurie does too) but I think this is why I don't view her as harshly as others do. This is a natural human thing to do in a time where everything seems so ____ed up and surreal you just want to grab whatever you can that seems like a connection to the real world.

Judge her all you want, but this is a MESSED up world she lives in and she is only responding on a primal level. Doesnt make her a cheating whore at all. She (in her mind) has lost her husband and is responsible for their little boy and Shane is helping her ease this burden. Thats how I look at it from somewhat of a relatable issue.

 

[Staps1138]

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the show has already varied from the comic

I know, that's what is cool IMO of the tv show - not knowing what will stay the same and what they will change.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Some people (viewers) are simply prejudiced by the fact that they know Rick is alive and well and looking for her and their son... and they're overlooking the fact that she clearly believes he's dead. It's a known phenomenon in writing or movies... if you present something to the audience that is unknown to other characters and it's an emotional device (like a woman sleeping with her husband's best friend) they often times project that onto the character as guilty, even though he/she is ignorant to it. Knowing the talent behind this show, this was likely done on purpose.

It's still kinda icky, regardless. But as it develops more people will see that she's not really in love with Shane... these are just primal urges coming out in the face of the world collapsing around them. And since she believes Rick is dead I don't see it as cheating, either. Just... icky. Heh.

I don't buy it. I put myself in Rick's position and I can totally relate to him. If that were me, I would be doing just about everything Rick is doing so far in trying to find his wife and son. Now I try and put myself in Lori's position. If my wife was in the hospital in a coma and this zombie virus breaks out, I would gather up my son and personal belongings and go get my wife out of the hospital and hide somewhere safe. I wouldn't take my son and leave and bang her best friend a few weeks later. Lori and Shane must probably escape the zombie apocalypse together but neither one of them think of going to the hospital to get Rick out? It's just not the way I would handle the situation, so I can't relate to Lori's character or feel bad for her in anyway whatsoever. In writing this, I also realize that Shane holds a lot of power over her and is probably making her decisions for her at this point but it still doesn't absolve her from what she has done. It does make Shane more of a scumbag though.

 

[The Mike]

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You're putting your own personal slant on the story based on your own code of morals and ethics which in turn would prove the writer's of the show successful because you've become emotionally involved. I guarantee you that everyone will read Lori and Rick's dilemma and what they "should" have done on both sides differently to degrees both ways.