The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[pixletwin]

That's not art. That's just regurgitating statistics.

If that's true than Da Vinci was an awesome statistician... Well he actually probably was but that's beside the point.

 

[pixletwin]

In any case, art is about uncovering truth and realism is one way of doing it. To dismiss it with such a broad statement does art a huge diservice.

 

[Commander Cody]

He took out a tank lol.

exactly! almost thought he was a goner with that zombie

I'm gonna still say The Red Wedding, but this episode was great. I loved it.

never in my life will the amount of emotion that the Red Wedding caused happen again. i didnt read the books at that point so i had no idea what was going to happen. Robb was my fav character on the show.
the very next episode when they dishonor the young wolf was sickening! it drove me insane for days!
this was a great episode whether you are hating or not. and impossible to say you are not looking forward to feb 9th!

 

[Buttmunch]

Finally got around to seeing the episode (stupid Thanksgiving return trip taking all day yesterday). I'm sad to see I predicted Hershel's death 100% accurately. I figured someone's head was going to roll based on what happened in the comic and since he was with Michonne, I knew it had to be his

Kirkman on TD mentioned how as he got older he realised the Gov's comic death wasn't that satisfying and yet it played out the exact same way on the show except even less satisfying because we didn't see the final headshot.

Which is why I'm not convinced the Governor is dead yet. I've seen far too many horror movies to just accept the bad guy is dead with an off camera death. No way. We'll either see his body in episode 9 or find out later that gunshot either missed, came from him, or came from someone else to stop Lily. Personally, I thought after he was stabbed in the chest and wasn't sliced in half up the middle that Michonne wasn't done with the Governor just yet (those who have read the comic will know what I'm talking about). So I was actually surprised to see Lily come to him instead of Michonne.

I'm more convinced Judith his dead than the Governor at this point. Either could be alive and both could easily be dead too. I can see them censoring the baby's death, but we've seen plenty of headshots on the show and the Governor certainly didn't deserve a tasteful death after the brutal death Hershel got just minutes earlier. Plus Morissey was signed on as a 'series regular' this season. 3 Episodes and 1 shot ending cameo is hardly a 'regular.' Until I see his corpse, I'm going to continue to believe the Governor isn't fully dead yet.

I no longer think the Walking Dead spin off will be about the Governor though

I haven't felt this intense during an episode since season 3, episode 4 (Lori and T-Dog's death episode). And it was easily the best episode since Merle's death.

 

[Indiana]

I hope if he does show up at all next half of the season, it is just to see him ripped apart there in the yard.

 

[devilof76]

If that's true than Da Vinci was an awesome statistician... Well he actually probably was but that's beside the point.

I'm not saying that art shouldn't be realistic, or that realism disqualifies a creation as art. I'm saying that if all you're doing is presenting how humans act on average, you may as well just dramatize history books.

In any case, art is about uncovering truth and realism is one way of doing it. To dismiss it with such a broad statement does art a huge diservice.

Science uncovers truth. Art communicates it (or its antithesis) by selectively concretizing abstractions.

If all it does is record unedited human behavior, then it's not art.

Maybe I misunderstood what he was saying. I don't think that Rick's tv character is unrealistic. I don't think that he's black and white, or too good. Any definition of realism in art that would pigeonhole him as that kind of caricature is what I was talking about.

 

[menoseloso]

I gotta say Maggie was hot hot hot this episode
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I gotta say Maggie is hot in every episode.

I think the Governor got shot in the arm right after cutting into Hershel's neck the first time. Still, I agree that Rick was in worse shape since he had a gun shot wound to the leg and his hand still wasn't healed from his fight with Tyreese.

The thing that bugged me the most about it wasn't that he got his *** beat, I could see that happening. But Rick just should of stabbed that ****er in the neck as soon as he came around that corner. Rick always has his little knife so I didn't see the point of engaging in a fist fight when you have a blade and the element of surprise.

 

[firefly2121]

I don't want escape, I want art imitating life. Real life.

Real life? Like all the zombies we fight daily, ok...anyways, this isn't Oscar Wilde, this is Frank Darabont...if you don't like the show since its so clean, then why after 4 years are you still watching?

 

[devilof76]

I think he does like it, but not as much as the comic.

Personally, I think it's the comic that's too black & white.

 

[EVILFACE]

I gotta say Maggie is hot in every episode.
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She needs to get her cowboy hat back.

 

[Hydeous]

What a great episode.

I was on the edge of my seat the whole time!

 

[Rambler]

She needs to get her cowboy hat back.

 

[Solid_Slug]

Hershel is dead

But why the **** Michonne didn't finnish the job. I would understand her leaving Governor wounded and alive if she would have been in a real hurry, but there was plenty of time to chop of his head etc. Considering what type of character she is, it would have been rather realistic choise. No ****ing loose ends It would be a miracle if Gov would survive such a puncture wound, but no one can survive without a missing head. At least not anyone alive.

 

[EVILFACE]

Looked like it was through the heart to me. He would have died and become a walker.

Cut off his arms and jaw, new pet.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I thought through the heart would of been obvious. No friggin way he lives through that one.

 

[OSCORP]

So how many more episodes come feb?

 

[Snake Plissken]

I think it's 8. It was with S3 pt 2 IIRC.

 

[Mister Ski]

Watching the ep tonight - halfway thru it. So, I am supposed to believe that the Governor is so charismatic as to convince a group of stangers that they should declare war on another group of people?

Maybe having a comic guy as head writer is not the best move, cause this episode is BULLCRAP!

You had to stop watching the episode to post this?

Ok, I am done with this show......I am sorry, but the deaths on this show, while shocking for the 5 seconds it takes, leads to less interesting characters and situations afterward.

Good job, writers, no one is left that is half as interesting to me




I agree.

I read the comic, and its much more realistic to me. They never had a story in which a badguy takes 2 pages to get a 'sane' group of people to turn into a bunch of militia wannabes.

Problem is, the writers killed off all of the Governor's original group, and then (apparently) decided, 'lets stick to the comic more!' So then they had to come up with Woodbury 2.0 or some such thing. The fact it happened in the course of 5 min is what is so ridiculous to me. And the end death of we-all-know who was really 'blah' as well.

Only cool moment: blonde girl going rambo on Rambo woman wannabe was great. Rambo woman was useless to me. We never got to know any of the Woodbury 2.0 people really, so why do I care. I love how zombies are now apparently ninjas, laying low in the hopes that a little girl will play in the mud. REALLY? REALLY? HOLY COW, terrible, terrible writing

Gonna stick with the comic, but not so sure with the show. Definitely jumped the shark with the mid season finale

So which is it? Stay or go? We all know you'll stay because you've got nothing better to do with your time.

 

[Darth Waller]

I thought it was a great episode, but what's with Lizzie shooting Alisha right in the center of her forehead? I know Carol was giving the kids knife training, but I don't remember hearing about gun training.

 

[Mister Ski]

I thought it was a great episode, but what's with Lizzie shooting Alisha right in the center of her forehead? I know Carol was giving the kids knife training, but I don't remember hearing about gun training.

All the kids are sleeper agents for Carol. Now they have been awakened and are carrying out Order 66.