The Willow Polystone Statue

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Holy shat, did you make that Spike, Sue? That's really, really, really, good. :thud:

Nice job, Sue. But I think you have to give him a bigger package in order to fit in with the new line.

This is true. And why is he wearing a shirt? Also, he should be gyrating on something. :lecture
 
Holy shat, did you make that Spike, Sue? That's really, really, really, good.

Thank you so much, you're too kind. As I said previously I only sculpted the body and clothes and my friend sculpted the head. I then painted it. Glad you think It works. I gave James Marsters a copy of the head a few years back, which he seemed to like.

Without firm criticism nothing would ever change. Women did not get the right to vote be being all respectful and meek towards the misogynists who felt women were innately inferior. Racial minorities in Western societies have not won legal equality by 'appreciating the difference' between those who think they are equal human beings and those who do not.

Bottom line: I find the near constant (key word) objectification of women to be offensive and serious issue that needs to be called out without apology.

Exactly. Very well said. :D
 
I have a fabulous idea. And I think we should allll go with it!

Some of us love the statue (like me) and some of us hate it (those who shall not be named because I am too lazy to write it all out). So, when those who hate it voice their opinions, and you don't agree with it, don't respond. And for those who love it and post their opinions, if you don't agree with it, ignore it, don't respond. Thus, everyone gets to post their feelings and we all just ignore the crap out of each other. See how that works? I like it!

Soooooo, why 2nd qtr. So far away!
 
The only thing i'm worried about is that body only support is one leg so if that thing tips over its a goner... But I think I will still get it.
 
I just noticed something funny. They have a quantity input box next to the add to cart button but there is a limit 1 per customer. They need a more robust UI me thinks. :)
 
That's exactly right. I just want to know they do well. BUT, we have to thank the low es for this. Because if it were at 400 like Buffy. There would be no bar up there.
 
That's exactly right. I just want to know they do well. BUT, we have to thank the low es for this. Because if it were at 400 like Buffy. There would be no bar up there.

I agree!

And it's good to know because if Willow can sell, then we KNOW Faith will. And if Faith sells well, we are probably guaranteed another piece in the line. :pray:
 
I think the great division of opinion in this thread shows exactly why Buffy was one of the greatest TV series ever made. Strident feminists got what they wanted out of the series and so did guys that like watching cute and sexy girls slaying monsters in sometimes totally inappropriate clothing. :rotfl

I think Star Trek is probably the only other series with such an amazingly broad cross-section of fans.

Buffy belongs to everyone.
 
^^ True.

When I saw the low bar I changed my mind. I want it now, not when I finish studying (living on a student loan right now) and get a job. But it's too much money. I wouldn't be able to afford any comic books for months, maybe a year. :(
 
Incredible likeness (her face), but the rest of the statue doesn't look Willow to me. Sadly, as I would love to have a decent representation of her in my collection.
 
The only person I had attacked in my original post was Tom, Sideshow's Art Director, who is in fairness the person directly responsible party for approving this design on Willow. And speaking of 'difference' my very concern is that Tom is promoting what I perceive as a monoculture of over-sexed representations of women, which is now affecting licences like Buffy where it is inappropriate and offensive to female fans. I explicitly noted that that art style has a place, welcome or not, in comicbook properties.




Without firm criticism nothing would ever change. Women did not get the right to vote be being all respectful and meek towards the misogynists who felt women were innately inferior. Racial minorities in Western societies have not won legal equality by 'appreciating the difference' between those who think they are equal human beings and those who do not.

Bottom line: I find the near constant (key word) objectification of women to be offensive and serious issue that needs to be called out without apology.
I do not believe that sexual objectification equals sexism. The character is made more sexually or physically pleasing in a female way to be more appealing and marketable, because it is a female character. It seems to me that the new Marvel Cyclops PF is extra muscular, significantly what he has traditionally been portrayed as, considering Wolverine has frequently called him "slim" in the past, and this PF is anything but slim. He looks like Schwarzenegger. A more muscular male is perceived as more desirable or physically or sexually appealing than a slim bodied one, so is the more muscular Cyclops sculpt a form of sexual objectification, and therefore, sexism? I don't think so.

from Wikipedia: "Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. It can also refer to hatred of, or prejudice towards, either sex as a whole (see misogyny and misandry), or the application of stereotypes of masculinity in relation to men, or of femininity in relation to women.[2] It is also called male and female chauvinism."

from the free online dictionary: "sex·ism (skszm)
n.
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender."

I see no discrimination in a sexy representation of a man or a woman, unless of course one of them has a leash on or is chained up by the other, in which case it would certainly apply.
I don't even see a stereotype being perpetuated here. Men have a look that women find sexy and women have a look that men find sexy. To a large degree, sexual objectification is critical to human survival, because it ensures procreation. Sexual objectification is nothing more than tapping into the psychological motivations for procreation, in which there is no inherent inequity, or discrimination involved, and if there IS, take it up with God, or mother nature, because that's the way human life IS.

Just because either gender is portrayed in a sexual way does not indicate that there is any sort of discrimination against the particular gender that is portrayed.
The REAL issue is, should HUMAN BEINGS in GENERAL be portrayed in a hyper sexual manner, according to women having bigger ****s and wider hips, and men having broader shoulders and bigger muscles? Is it wrong to promote the idea of the survival of the fittest, or the sexiest in art or the media or advertising? It seems to me that to object to what is classically perceived as most sexy in either gender is to object to the design of nature itself.

To be clear, I think that the build of this statue is perhaps a bit more voluptuous than the actress is, which was done primarily to make the statue more appealing, to increase the sales of a less popular character. Marketing wise, I think it's a sound move. I do understand how a purist would object to a less than faithful representation of the character, and I respect that, because I think that authenticity is very important. However, I will be buying this because it is such a cute sculpt (which would include the fact that it is more sexy) even though I have never seen a full episode of Buffy, but I did see the movie, because I find the actress so appealing.
 
The last two posts are very interesting. Blackthornone, you demonstrate that you are not a fan of the franchise when you state Willow is not a popular character. Buffy (and Angel) were true ensemble shows, when the "sidekicks" were as important to the story as the leads. Willow is probably the most popular character next to Buffy.

I again ask the question, what is the point of making a character statue so different from its source? I believe (and the point's moot unless someone else makes a Willow statue and mass produces it) a Willow statue that is accurate to the character would have been MORE successful commercially than this one, as it would have attracted actual fans of the show and character who would prefer a true likeness, like pordey2. I believe this market would overshadow the subsection of Willow/Aly fans who 1. like the statue as is, 2. are so desperate for a Willow statue with a pleasing head portrait that they would overlook the ridiculous body, pose, and clothes plus 3. the (I am assuming) small percentage of non-fans who collect ****alicious girly statues.

The talk about wanting realistic Spikes and other boy statues while sexed up neo-Willow is okay is honestly disturbing. It's another reason why I fret over the messages my 11 year old niece is getting and learning for truth. I got the full season set of Buffy on DVD for $27 on Amazon a few weeks ago. I think it's going to end up under her Christmas tree Friday night.
 
In my account on ssc, my Willow shows it's an open order and that it's shipping soon. Weird.

That's just Sideshow's way of preventing cancelation without the fee being charged, you have to call to alter or cancel. I have several Marvel statues like that I paid the NRD on and it says "Item Shipping Soon". I imagine Sideshow will be revamping their ordering site one day soon to reflect NRD orders properly.
 
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